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  • #5,161
  • Nov 19, 2017 3:54am Nov 19, 2017 3:54am
Quoting mrfxlee
{quote} Thank You for your reply. So that I understand there are double test or touch on the demand level and I should look for lower Demand Zone Level
That is a difficult question to answer my friend because there is so much more to the methodology. Atleast based on how I trade the system there is so many different aspects involved to S&D that it would take me a very long time to explain it. But yes there were 2 touches making it not fresh therefore you would like to locate a better quality zone.
  • #5,162
  • Nov 20, 2017 8:22pm Nov 20, 2017 8:22pm
Hello everyone

an example of an intraday trade on the USD/JPY just closed out. It is an example of trading market turning points using Multiple timeframe analysis
Trade was taken on the premise of price being at higher timeframe demand, in this case, the daily chart.

Please note, there was a lot more consideration and management put into this trade.
It is also in general parlance, considered a "counter-trend trade"

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  • #5,163
  • Nov 20, 2017 8:32pm Nov 20, 2017 8:32pm
Hello everyone

I often get asked about the utility of S.A.D trading on smaller timeframes as to whether it can be used
To be sure, intraday trading requires a very different mindset and set of skills compared to other types of trading. It's important to mention that.

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  • #5,164
  • Nov 21, 2017 3:06am Nov 21, 2017 3:06am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone I often get asked about the utility of S.A.D trading on smaller timeframes as to whether it can be used To be sure, intraday trading requires a very different mindset and set of skills compared to other types of trading. It's important to mention that. best wishes{image}{image}
Hi Michael, am i correct in saying this trade was a confirmation trade as we know daily has come back to fresh demand and the 4 hour would be down so we would know that the entry of 60 min we would be looking for longs of this time frame or the 20 min as you have entry of?
Please correct me if i'm wrong.


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  • #5,165
  • Nov 21, 2017 6:09am Nov 21, 2017 6:09am
I'm very new to supply and demand, have only been doing it for about a week. Please feel free to correcting me /comment
My take on EURUSD:

1d:
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  • #5,166
  • Nov 21, 2017 10:15am Nov 21, 2017 10:15am
Quoting jgk
{quote} Hi Michael, am i correct in saying this trade was a confirmation trade as we know daily has come back to fresh demand and the 4 hour would be down so we would know that the entry of 60 min we would be looking for longs of this time frame or the 20 min as you have entry of? Please correct me if i'm wrong. We Have one life make the most of it!
Hello jgk.

Correct.

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  • #5,167
  • Nov 22, 2017 1:44am Nov 22, 2017 1:44am
Quoting Krossaren96
I'm very new to supply and demand, have only been doing it for about a week. Please feel free to correcting me /comment My take on EURUSD: 1d:{image} 4h: {image} 1h: {image} 15min: {image}
hello krossaren96.
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the EUR/USD.
I have to say it is pretty well done for the time you have put into it. Lots to learn for sure

If i may, some thoughts on the daily chart...

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  • #5,168
  • Nov 22, 2017 3:19am Nov 22, 2017 3:19am
Hello everyone ,
I was wondering what should be the best decision in this case :
the Demand zone is still holding but it is used up and daily momentum line is pointing down
I believe I must do nothing till one of them is broken , AM I RIGHT ?
please share your thoughts
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  • #5,169
  • Nov 22, 2017 9:16pm Nov 22, 2017 9:16pm
Quoting Al Chemist
Hello everyone , I was wondering what should be the best decision in this case : the Demand zone is still holding but it is used up and daily momentum line is pointing down I believe I must do nothing till one of them is broken , AM I RIGHT ? please share your thoughts {image}
Hi Al Chemist,

What are your 3 time frames for your TDA ?

If you look at the HTFs say M & W, you will find that the upward momentum is not broken.
Also the D1 DZ is embedded within Weekly DZ.

I would wait and watch.

If you would provide your 3 TF TDA, it would be easy to help you.

Cheers
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  • #5,170
  • Nov 23, 2017 2:29am Nov 23, 2017 2:29am
Quoting Al Chemist
Hello everyone , I was wondering what should be the best decision in this case : the Demand zone is still holding but it is used up and daily momentum line is pointing down I believe I must do nothing till one of them is broken , AM I RIGHT ? please share your thoughts {image}
Hello Alchemist

As Foxtrader has mentioned, please add a couple more charts so the traders in here can understand your thought process. It will help you and everyone else who would like to give feedback.

As you are looking at the daily chart, one would assume that is your entry timeframe.

Please see the picture below for some of my thoughts. You are correct, there is nothing to do on this chart right now.

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  • #5,171
  • Nov 23, 2017 5:44am Nov 23, 2017 5:44am
Quoting Akt
{quote} hello krossaren96. Welcome to T.I.O.F Good to meet you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the EUR/USD. I have to say it is pretty well done for the time you have put into it. Lots to learn for sure If i may, some thoughts on the daily chart... best wishes{image}

Hi Akt,

Thank you for your quick reply!

I am now wondering if you have any good info on profit-taking levels in general? If trading the Daily, 4h, 60min and 15 min, is a 15-min supply/demand zone good as tp or should I use a higher timeframe one?

Thanks,
Krossaren96
  • #5,172
  • Nov 23, 2017 10:15am Nov 23, 2017 10:15am
hello guys

refer attached, i prematurely exited my trade. I did a sell from the supply zone and exited when the prices went down to the demand zone.

will the price stilll goes down???
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  • Nov 23, 2017 11:00am Nov 23, 2017 11:00am
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  • #5,174
  • Nov 23, 2017 4:21pm Nov 23, 2017 4:21pm
Hello Everyone,

I am new to S&D and wanted to know has anyone backtested this?
"Fall in love with the process and the results will follow" - Bradley Whitf
  • #5,175
  • Nov 23, 2017 10:52pm Nov 23, 2017 10:52pm
Quoting T4i
Hello Everyone, I am new to S&D and wanted to know has anyone backtested this?
Hello T4i
Welcome to T.I.O.F
Good to meet you.

I think most traders in here have, both backtested and forward tested the methodology.
The thing is though, in my experience, confidence is only gained when one has done their own testing to see for themselves.
I know a lot of my guys have done thorough testing for long periods, much to my interest.

best wishes
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  • #5,176
  • Nov 24, 2017 12:33am Nov 24, 2017 12:33am
Hello everyone

Supply and demand applied to commodities.

A trade idea on Sugar.

best wishes
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  • #5,177
  • Edited 7:27am Nov 24, 2017 2:23am | Edited 7:27am
Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello T4i Welcome to T.I.O.F Good to meet you. I think most traders in here have, both backtested and forward tested the methodology. The thing is though, in my experience, confidence is only gained when one has done their own testing to see for themselves. I know a lot of my guys have done thorough testing for long periods, much to my interest. best wishes
Thanks for your response.

I will look into this in more depth.
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  • #5,178
  • Nov 24, 2017 7:40am Nov 24, 2017 7:40am
I just wanted to know if i am doing this correctly. since I am a Advanced Pattern trader and want to advance my toolbox with more tools.

EURUSD

Weekly Curve
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Daily Momentum UP
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If I see corretly there is a 4hr supply zone in the Daily supply zone and Daily supply zone in the Weekly supply zone?
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  • #5,179
  • Nov 24, 2017 1:53pm Nov 24, 2017 1:53pm
Quoting vincentj
hello guys refer attached, i prematurely exited my trade. I did a sell from the supply zone and exited when the prices went down to the demand zone. will the price stilll goes down??? {image}
Hi Vincentj

i saw that you were trading the pair I had a position.
However my TF M W D told me to go long. And it has been a profitable trade.

Please indicate your trio of TF you used for your TDA.
Looks like you traded the drop between 2 rallies

Hope the current state of the chart answered your question. The price went up in line with the HTF momentum.
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  • #5,180
  • Nov 24, 2017 4:02pm Nov 24, 2017 4:02pm
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Supply and demand applied to commodities. A trade idea on Sugar. best wishes{image}
Hello everyone

Update on the sugar trade idea

best wishes
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