How much money I could make from investors?

lol, maybe you missed the point?

it is not only the drawdown would be lowered, but also your gains too. would it still compare?
as per myfxbook, i still see my average monthly gain to beat the max dd. ( and as per famous, if and probably you refer to me, i am far far from famous!)
but
it isnt about comparing numbers!
where i was trying to help you out, that i have been where you are, trying to score homeruns on smaller equity...and fail due taking oversized risk, in hope to hit a larger return. in the end, there was a ruined account, and frustration.

whatever i comment for you here, is only in hope to steer you to a more sustainable, less frustrating, and ultimately profitable path, i wish someone would help me on when i was also in the cycle you are.
that said, whatever works for you is great, and should do that. the only big 'IF' is if works!

When I started this thread it was after a long absence on this forum. At the beginning I had only my view, my thread ... but how to think outside the box if working in a cubical? then I saw the journals, but very very late.

I thank you for your words, and also for your journal.

I am trying to make it work, I am finding myself stuck in keeping some rules that I know well, that I believe in ... don't know what I am missing.
Monday I said to myself not to trade, wait for ej/en to make a significant move before I go in .. ah, sad story ... Recovery 5 is still ongoing!

In fact I know what I need for my manual trading, in September I realized when I wanted to start to study. I need a teacher ... I was excited at that moment, but didn't made public the teacher profile I am looking for as I realized it is not realizable.

TE Reality added to the thread.

It's getting complicated to trade with me on this signal because, 1st - the dd is too dangerous and mql5 don't allow it, and 2nd - the price got higher, it is now 100$/mo. With this increase price rate I will beat the bitcoin growth in no time ... Are you thinking on how would have been if bought the bitcoin in early days? ... too expensive now? ... well, you have the chance to subscribe on Reality now, later it might not be affordable as the bitcoin is now.

Seriously now, the main purpose of the Reality account to be for Darwinia competition remains. Subscribing to the signal it might not be so wise unless your looking to make a donation and not an investment!

Future Simulator - added a new trade safety protection

A month ago I wanted to apply a safety protection to avoid buying/sell at margins, now it's added. Reality signal is now paying the price of my delay.
Don't find the post now but anyhow, one of my other very old notice was that at the beginning/middle of the month, sort of a 15 days loop, the system is opening wrong trades ... today was one of those days.

EURCAD - buy at the top? - manual close



EURAUD - buy at the top? - manual intervention
I wanted to do one of a way out idea ...high level explanation, hedge a part of the trade, lock the profit, open new trades on different levels and lock profits until a global profitability ... carry dd meanwhile.
So, I opened sell at a half volume ... I felt it's not good the approach and opened buy double volume at a good timing ... exit with tiny profit. Nice, now I have to code my feelings...



Current situation: 11 trades open, 6 are mine, 5 Future Simulator (from the total of 147 closed trades, only 12 are manually made by me and the rest are from Future Simulator).
Future Simulator trades:
2x eurusd and 2x eurnzd - wrong trades as the above examples.
1x audusd - I don't see an issue on it.

My trades:
..., different things

I added a new safety protection based on the high/low of a weekly bar, I invented a formula, it's live now ... worse case that could happen is to have too many blocked trades, but I will see it in the logs. I should do some improvements on it to include other bar periods ... with other occasion.

And a few more changes:
- lowered the margin protection (means more account risk, this broker margin requirements are not so friendly with me ... this morning I remembered this fact when margin was red).
- excluded the condition that triggered wrong trades, not the full pattern, ... I should be more strict here but I wait first the outcome of the just added safety protection.
- eurchf is excluded almost since the beginning due to the open buy/sell at same moment. Another 2-3 pairs might follow until I do some improvements. Anyway, those trades were all fine.

Reality signal at this moment:
too dangerous to subscribe, 34% current dd, 58% worse dd, 66% growth, 9% clean profit
115 eur booked today, 110 eur clean if closing the trades opened today.

Donation Subscription price: 100$/month

You probably heard about the latest painting sell record ...
The Batman side of me from here wanted to throw this paint in the street ... finally, I am signing my pain.

Not sharing my gbpjpy vision? I only can wish you sweet nightmares in case of attempting to hold the loosing position.

Reality signal is extremely quiet, I will check the logs in a few hours. This morning two trades were blocked, ... buy on eurnzd and usdchf that would have worked ... but sometime what Future Simulator thinks is a valley I see a pick of a mountain ... adjustments should be made.

The door to the Reality signal is getting open, and close, and open ... now it's open and the subscription price is 30$/mo ... closed door? refresh the page and maybe you could squeeze in!

Quiet day, 3x attempts to buy eurcad and one on usdjpy ... the just added safety protection worked well at a glimpse, I improved the logs.

For this cases, what if I do opposite of what Future Simulator wants? hehe!

I care about the evolution of this account as I want to have it for the darwinia competition (don't like the current carry loosing trades that makes 30+%dd) ... With the signal I am having a sort of a marketing fun, I might stop it once I will have the darwin. Yesterday I started to think over the enlargement of the commercial portfolio, offer a few different solutions to spread the risks of not having something to offer. I could lunch a PAMM, 1/2 more accounts on the darwinex with different type of trades, maybe a new attempt for the myfxbook autotrade - but here initially they require an average of min 3 pips / trade but when submitting the application 10 pips were mentioned but not mandatory.

I know, I must be profitable first!

Plenty of things to keep me away from the way out system implementation.

Recovery X - still ongoing, still at Recovery 5.

I looked over a few accounts and I saw a complicated thing. The purpose is to have the account profitable, and this doesn't really mean to get only my money back from where I lost ...
Account 1 - start with 1k and win 100k ... really?!? ... wait, it's an example!
Transfer from Account 1 to Account 2 maybe 50K
Trade in Account 2 and loose them all ... really?!? ... wait, it's an example!
Account 2 has now 50K to recover ... good luck on the Recovery X!

What if ...?

GBPJPY
As annoying as it looks, it drop more just after exit ... taking a satisfactory profit is better then a tiny profit or no profit.

EURNZD
Could have been a little bit more but far less or no profit* if I was waiting for more profit.



Consistency is the key, take profit and repeat! Still, it's annoying when exit just before a drop.
I had gbpjpy in the Recovery 5 account too, bigger trade opened way earlier, the intention was to follow the painting scene ... I am out at the moment due to a detail from the paint ...

*) reached 1.1714 while writing this post

I didn't eat much kiwi lately and yet the nightmare of eurnzd @ 1.173 is now real, chasing me in other account!
No kiwi shopping this time!

Reality signal is having a 50+% dd, the margin is not safe ... I can't add fast money to the account as I can deposit only via the bank transfer, takes time. I excluded since the start the option to add more money in case of an issue. Therefore, should it loose ... Recovery X will be. It's a pity that I lost so much time for nothing in strict terms of $ profit. It might be me but each time I have an issue, I also have solution to it.
... ah, got to go for the moment.

Closing all the trades now I will have a 3 eur profit on the account equity!

I successfully managed to block Future Simulator from trading by using all the free account margin in my trading. Somehow it managed to make a trade, profitable too ... damn! but 95% of the trades I managed to blocked ... yep, wanted to make 20+ trades ...
Not my fault, this broker jail has 0.5%/1%/... margin requirement and 1:200 leverage where on ICM it's 0.2% and 1:500 leverage, in other words, a real casino party!

The dd painted a higher mountain pick, 63% dd ... second time I see the account in real danger ... Recovery 5 is not going well either ... petite details!

Fine! I am going to let Future Simulator to trade more and I will focus on the other things I mentioned few posts before.

wow! 30 eur profit on the account equity now! crazy! ... should I close or should I ... play? hey, it's serious trading!

Reality signal opened the door to the subscribers as the floating dd dropped under 30%
Subscription price: 50$/mo
About 60 eur made from today's trades!

How I could have avoided this unpleasant floating dd that created a queue to the subscription page longer than the one to the iPhone shop in the release day?
Easy solution: If a trade is loosing more than X eur (10/20/30?) close it and open it again. Loosing again another X eur? close it and open it again. Maybe allow a +/- 10 pips in between ... The cycle will end when the winning trade will win mo than previous loosing trades. Maybe deposit a few more money in between of each cycle.

pam pam param pam pam!

PAMM: Reality - EUR

I haven't spent much time thinking on the public offer as well as on the declaration but it can be adjusted. Now it's important to be profitable. And speaking about profitability, my previous PAMM account was a real deal - can't cheat in here, archived accounts are public!
I set Manager capital 500 eur + 500 eur investment. As per trading, at this moment it is similar setup as Reality with a few changes, less global risk but a gradual increase for high accurate trades, different volumes, different profits ...

Do you dare to invest in me?

Reality signal is getting better, almost a double in terms of growth, more than half in profit and the rest is the floating dd from old trades. Excluding the old trades that made this nasty dd, the majority of the trades are high accurate!

Reality - EUR PAMM made a few trades, 0.8% gain and 1.26% dd ... but it just started.

I was watching the eurtry in the last days ... tempted to take a short since 4.5x, more tempted from 4.6 as I took last week some short trades from this level (Recovery 5 account), much more tempted now @ 4.64+ ... glad to have refrained from taking a trade so far, if I will finally, it might be in other account as on darwinex I have a 3% margin.

Reverse engineering investment service!
Not yet in my commercial portfolio but a service that pays you before you risk must be what everybody is looking for.
How will work?
Simply say: I want 100$/month from 500$ investment.
One month later you receive 100$.
Then deposit the money ... for the fun of the art ... (of course, take them back after because who's needing your money?)
On a future version the deposit of the money might not be needed ... Also, say the X$ must be made from Y trades that take T time and ...

Nice no?

Well, not yet available but the Reality signal and the Reality - EUR PAMM is giving pretty much the same outcome.

The safety protection worked very good, no long opened trades since, all opened trades were closed too.
I relaxed a little bit the conditions ... the blocked (maybe all) trades were good trades. Anyhow, all the current trades are supposed to be good trades.

So far, today I made 66 eur on the signal and 20+ eur on the PAMM.

With Reality signal the subscription price is recovered within a good day, or maybe two.

Psychological price now, only 79$/month!

Is the subscription price changing too often?
You should not care about that!

It's like when buying a toy, a car, a house ... you make the transaction when the price finds you. After, the right thing to do is to enjoy the acquisition and stop looking how the price changes over the time, on promotions, etc ...

The first PAMM investment arrived, a 25 eur investment!
In a sense, from an investor perspective I think that investing in a PAMM is much more better than in a signal service.
Investing in signal could bring other opportunities to the investor as the creation of a similar business behind.

Not much activity on the PAMM today, where on the signal 19 eur already booked.

It's amazing how it dropped after I was out!
I know it well how it is to stay in more to get some more and not working to get more.
I know it well how it is to stay in more and get much more.
I am OK with the outcome.

As I noticed that most of the time I could stay in more to get much more, I am looking to make a few adjustments to get much more profit from a trade. Normally, Future Simulator is looking after trades with bigger profitability but due to other safety measures it is taking less (but still enough!) ... In the end, darwinex wants 50% of the trades to be longer than 10 minutes and this is the current setup looking for.