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  • #11,241
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:08am Nov 6, 2017 7:08am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Jen since I started talking about this stuff I have consistently made the point about trying to view and explain much of this stuff without resorting to what science tells us. When I said you don't need to see, I was of course talking about molecules which is why I said just look up at a moisture laden cloud because we can see it and making the point referring to your comment about weak gravity. Is it gravity that pulls the moisture out of the cloud ? Clearly it (gravity ) chooses to ignore it for a time whilst at the same time keeps huge...
Gravity doesn't ignore anything. It's all about how much energy a molecule has. As a gas, it is bouncing around other water molecules and air. If I shoved a rocket up your arse, I think even you may be able to overcome gravity for a while.
  • #11,242
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:10am Nov 6, 2017 7:10am
It surprises me that the $upporter$ are still more burdened with crazy-granny Hill as for example 3000 dead in NY.

FBI documents, submitted as evidence, claimed that the two Saudi nationals who came to the US, Mohammed al-Qudhaeein and Hamdan al-Shalawi,
were in fact members of “the Kingdom's network of agents” in the country. The documents claimed the men trained in Afghanistan with a number
of other al-Qaeda operatives that participated in the attacks.
Qudhaeein was allegedly employed at the Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, and Shalawi was a “longtime employee of the Saudi
government” in Washington DC.
In November 1999 they boarded an America West flight to Washington, and tried to access the cockpit several times, asking the flight
attendants “technical questions” and making the staff “suspicious”.
Qudhaeein reportedly asked staff where the bathroom was and was pointed in the right direction; instead he tried to enter the cockpit.
The pilots made an emergency landing in Ohio and the two men were released after an initial interrogation from the FBI.
Their plane tickets were reportedly paid for by the Saudi Embassy, according to Kristen Breitweiser, whose husband was killed in 9/11.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/911-saudi-government-embassy-dry-run-hijacks-lawsuit-cockpit-security-a7938791.html
http://www.newsweek.com/terrorism-europe-link-saudi-arabia-brand-islam-uk-ambassador-636232
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/saudi-arabia-gulf-states-fund-islamic-extremism-germany-salafism-wahhabism-qatar-kuwait-islamists-a7473551.html
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  • #11,243
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:10am Nov 6, 2017 7:10am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} Sorry but I can't take anyone who quotes HRW and HuffPo(FFS) seriously.
Said the guy who thinks the ISS is fake and earth might be flat. You couldn't write it. Sorry, couldn't resist
Adriaaaaan
  • #11,244
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:11am Nov 6, 2017 7:11am
Quoting Gamod
What I don't understand with gravity is why and where in space it stops working. We are told that the puny little moon affects our oceans but at the same time 200 miles up in space there is NO gravitational pull from the earth. Where do we become weightless at 199 mls or is it 100 mls - makes no sense to me.
No gravitational pull on you, but the moon has a slightly greater mass than you. All masses have gravitational pulls.
  • #11,245
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:25am Nov 6, 2017 7:25am
Btw, I noticed recently that Cliff Edwards was banned (LOL). Anyone know what happened there? Was it for his double standards reporting of other members?
Adriaaaaan
  • #11,246
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:52am Nov 6, 2017 7:52am
Quoting StrongOnStab
It surprises me that the $upporter$ are still more burdened with crazy-granny Hill as for example 3000 dead in NY. FBI documents, submitted as evidence, claimed that the two Saudi nationals who came to the US, Mohammed al-Qudhaeein and Hamdan al-Shalawi, were in fact members of “the Kingdom's network of agents” in the country. The documents claimed the men trained in Afghanistan with a number of other al-Qaeda operatives that participated in the attacks. Qudhaeein was allegedly employed at the Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Islamic Affairs, and Shalawi...
ISIS - just another branch of CIA gone rogue.

Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #11,247
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:55am Nov 6, 2017 7:55am
Quoting Johnramb0
Btw, I noticed recently that Cliff Edwards was banned (LOL). Anyone know what happened there? Was it for his double standards reporting of other members?
One can surmise...
  • #11,248
  • Nov 6, 2017 7:56am Nov 6, 2017 7:56am
Quoting jen101
{quote} No gravitational pull on you, but the moon has a slightly greater mass than you. All masses have gravitational pulls.
But not on the ISS which just floats there.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #11,249
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:00am Nov 6, 2017 8:00am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} But not on the ISS which just floats there.
It's in orbit! The orbit is the from the gravitational pull of the earth and the forward momentum, like a ball being swung round on a string.

Jeez, did none of you crinklies ever do science at school in your day? Or when you get old you revert back to being a child, like you have to argue about everything?
  • #11,250
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:05am Nov 6, 2017 8:05am
Quoting Johnramb0
{quote} What bit do you feel goes against science?
Rambo I thought you decided it best we have a bit of distance. If we continue and by association will people want distance from you too ? Your investment in this keeps you coming back.

Ok here goes. It is said that the atmosphere and earth are essentially in unison. It is said that our movement on the earth is not independent of the atmosphere. So if I jump straight up in the air I land on the same spot. I don't land say 60 feet away due to the earth's rotation. So on that basis how the hell can they try and beat the earths rotational speed ? If they heading into the setting sun and earth rotating at 650 miles per hour and they matches the speed in reverse direction that would mean they would hover in the sky once at that speed and time would stand still. How can that be if our movement is not independent of the earth ? That would imply that there should be vast differences in east-west west/east air travel and we know that isn't the case.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #11,251
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:08am Nov 6, 2017 8:08am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Gravity doesn't ignore anything. It's all about how much energy a molecule has. As a gas, it is bouncing around other water molecules and air. If I shoved a rocket up your arse, I think even you may be able to overcome gravity for a while.
I'm sure I could ! Odd that the oceans can't.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #11,252
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:10am Nov 6, 2017 8:10am
Quoting Gamod
Up until a few years ago I believed fervently in the moon landings, then I started asking q's and the answers I got made no sense, but still for a long time I was undecided.. Now I have come off the fence - WE DID NOT GO TO THE MOON...PERIOD. And I doubt there is an ISS either. Flat earth?? still not sure LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=GH6-BDVWCog https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/11/06/amazing-nasa-confession/#more-162928
https://youtu.be/DpPMoIv1lxI
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #11,253
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:17am Nov 6, 2017 8:17am
Quoting jen101
{quote} It's in orbit! The orbit is the from the gravitational pull of the earth and the forward momentum, like a ball being swung round on a string. Jeez, did none of you crinklies ever do science at school in your day?
Yeah thats something else I have a problem with -
The circumference of earth is 25k miles and the speed of the ISS is 17k mph - Meaning it goes round the earth once abt every 2 hrs - really?

Do you know how fast that actually is?

Ten times faster than a bullet and its not slowing down or getting closer to earth - just doesn't add up.

And yes I did science at school, but I was also taught to use my brain and ask questions.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #11,254
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:31am Nov 6, 2017 8:31am
Quoting jen101
{quote} It's in orbit! The orbit is the from the gravitational pull of the earth and the forward momentum, like a ball being swung round on a string. Jeez, did none of you crinklies ever do science at school in your day? Or when you get old you revert back to being a child, like you have to argue about everything?
So we are weightless on the ISS but the gravitational pull is strong enough to keep the ISS in perfect Orbit? And the ISS is travelling ten times faster than a bullet.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #11,255
  • Nov 6, 2017 8:42am Nov 6, 2017 8:42am
Quoting Gamod
Yep Trump knew all along - now hes gonna really drain it. The Jews know they are the target of Trump, Inc’s ‘drain the swamp’ op known as Hurricane Harvey https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/uber-jewish-funnyman-larry-david-slammed-for-holocaust-sexual-harassment-jokes-on-snl/
Even these Jews? All Jews?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1X2ihFbAzg
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #11,256
  • Nov 6, 2017 9:04am Nov 6, 2017 9:04am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Even these Jews? All Jews? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1X2ihFbAzg
I like to think that he's only targetting the sfb's who lost their moral compass, if they ever had one.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #11,257
  • Nov 6, 2017 9:11am Nov 6, 2017 9:11am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Rambo I thought you decided it best we have a bit of distance. If we continue and by association will people want distance from you too ? Your investment in this keeps you coming back. Ok here goes. It is said that the atmosphere and earth are essentially in unison. It is said that our movement on the earth is not independent of the atmosphere. So if I jump straight up in the air I land on the same spot. I don't land say 60 feet away due to the earth's rotation. So on that basis how the hell can they try and beat the earths rotational speed...
All I said was I wanted to end the discussion about the lake.

Regarding your video; they are trying to catch the sun from setting so they are travelling against the direction of the spin not with the spin.
Adriaaaaan
  • #11,258
  • Nov 6, 2017 9:14am Nov 6, 2017 9:14am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} So we are weightless on the ISS but the gravitational pull is strong enough to keep the ISS in perfect Orbit? And the ISS is travelling ten times faster than a bullet.
You would be in orbit just like ISS. Speed is relative.
  • #11,259
  • Nov 6, 2017 9:16am Nov 6, 2017 9:16am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I'm sure I could ! Odd that the oceans can't.
They would if you gave them enough energy, like boil them.
  • #11,260
  • Nov 6, 2017 9:20am Nov 6, 2017 9:20am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjw_w0YHL1g&feature=youtu.be
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