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  • #3,341
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:04pm Nov 1, 2017 2:04pm
Sold small at 25. May will get out with few pips
  • #3,342
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:07pm Nov 1, 2017 2:07pm
Quoting xperta
Very confused! Any ideas, Ata? Thought it will break 1.1660/70 to go short:/ Is it ok to go long now?
First can you tell me what timeframe you are trading and what you see there at the moment? Answer just with your personal experience.. tell us what confuses you in a market that barely moves..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #3,343
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:16pm Nov 1, 2017 2:16pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} First can you tell me what timeframe you are trading and what you see there at the moment? Answer just with your personal experience.. tell us what confuses you in a market that barely moves.. Stay Green

I trade H4 and D1. Based on the news , which for me were dovish, eur/usd should have tested 1.1660/80 level. From my chart it used to be horizontal support line, which was broken. And today I expectet this level to be retested , which would be a chance to go short from there
  • #3,344
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:22pm Nov 1, 2017 2:22pm
Hi guys just joined ff. I like the look of this thread keep it up guys! I'm a long term full time trader trading forex and futures so I hope you will find my posts useful
My trades are normally based on eliotwaves and Fibonacci retracements

S
  • #3,345
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:29pm Nov 1, 2017 2:29pm
Quoting xperta
{quote} I trade H4 and D1. Based on the news , which for me were dovish, eur/usd should have tested 1.1660/80 level. From my chart it used to be horizontal support line, which was broken. And today I expectet this level to be retested , which would be a chance to go short from there
Okay gotcha.. yes price couldn't even reach out for yesterday's high the whole day.. which means: we are inside a pennant.. look at H4 chart below..

Each time price came closer to edge of pennant (or some call it triangle) it was rejected and pennant got narrower and narrower.. so here we better stick to classic breakout trade.. since Daily is bearish the odds are for downside.. One surprise cold come with a fake bullish breakout towards 1.1660/70 or higher... but I still believe eventually we will continue the bearish trend (based on Head & Shoulders pattern's target not reached yet)..

If robber banks decide for no fakey then price probably will drop again at flag upper edge circa at: 1.1648 (for the next 12 hours)

In other words: I still prefer to short every swing high and prefer to stay away from buying (one exception is whenever price nears lower edge of pennat is the only time I would risk a buy trade)

I hope it clarifies..

Stay Green
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  • #3,346
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:33pm Nov 1, 2017 2:33pm
Quoting Sarrastro
Hi guys just joined ff. I like the look of this thread keep it up guys! I'm a long term full time trader trading forex and futures so I hope you will find my posts useful My trades are normally based on eliotwaves and Fibonacci retracements S
Welcome Sarrastro.. for all newcomers our arms are wide open.. thanks in advance for contributing..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #3,347
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:34pm Nov 1, 2017 2:34pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} Okay gotcha.. yes price couldn't even reach out for yesterday's high the whole day.. which means: we are inside a pennant.. look at H4 chart below.. Each time price came closer to edge of pennant (or some call it triangle) it was rejected and pennant got narrower and narrower.. so here we better stick to classic breakout trade.. since Daily is bearish the odds are for downside.. One surprise cold come with a fake bullish breakout towards 1.1660/70 or higher... but I still believe eventually we will continue the bearish trend (based on Head...

Thanks a lot. Once again very useful. I have the same vision about going short, just disappointed the price did not get to the level I expected!

Cheers
  • #3,348
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:44pm Nov 1, 2017 2:44pm
Eur usd could be building a massive bear trap. H and S broke, but no proper follow through, retail sentiment still extremely bearish and my low of 1.1581 has been hit almost exactly. I will be posting charts soon; on my phone right now.
  • #3,349
  • Nov 1, 2017 2:58pm Nov 1, 2017 2:58pm
Stubborn as a mule....all stopped out @ BE. No sense in fighting the market. Seems like we'll range until Friday. See you guys then!

Looks like I'll be going in without a trade. Good thing is that depending on the number it should be an easy buy or an easy sell....bad miss = buy euro, inline or better = sell
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  • #3,350
  • Nov 1, 2017 3:52pm Nov 1, 2017 3:52pm
Seems like all make sense now. I've been a follower on this thread since like forever, and I must say, ATA, thank you. I know you're not here to "help" people understand or learn trading, if you have an idea, well the floor is yours. Nothing stops you to say someting, share knowledge, make forgotten learning pop up, refreshing the mind all the time. That's why I have been addicted to this tread eversince (pirate) that I decided to join FF and subscribed here. I like EVERYONE'S contribution even if you're out by a clear mile or two, it keeps you thinking and helps you reconsider you're own view doesn't matter how "good" you are or experienced. My motto has changed eversince and I'll be a "learner" until eternity. To adapt to the market is key, what you see, what you know, what you think, is irrelevant as long as you keep to a winning strategy you WILL wipe your account over and over again. I have been successful in certain trades even when you "predicted" the outcome by going against "you" although it was a tough decision, but the outcome was sweet. Then other times more than likely I lost more money because I didn't keep with my own strategy. I must admit, I did swear at you more than once before lol but hey, absolutely not your fault. Money /risk management made the difference in how I trade. On a more serious note, I think we're ranging until news makes or confirm direction. Stay on the side line, or and please adjust your strategy according to range or trend. Big difference in your balance. Not trading in uncertainty is also winning.
  • #3,351
  • Nov 1, 2017 5:39pm Nov 1, 2017 5:39pm
Since it's been so slow, I've been doing some scalping hoping I would end up in the green--I did. Hoping EU will get to the upper channel so I can do some shorting. Maybe some fundamental news will blip it up so I can enter a position or two or three. I think I'll ride my bike.
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  • #3,352
  • Nov 1, 2017 5:48pm Nov 1, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting HerrieB
Seems like all make sense now. I've been a follower on this thread since like forever, and I must say, ATA, thank you. I know you're not here to "help" people understand or learn trading, if you have an idea, well the floor is yours. Nothing stops you to say someting, share knowledge, make forgotten learning pop up, refreshing the mind all the time. That's why I have been addicted to this tread eversince (pirate) that I decided to join FF and subscribed here. I like EVERYONE'S contribution even if you're out by a clear mile or two, it keeps...
First of welcome and a big thank you for the effort you put in posting the most genuine view for our thread so far.. I really appreciate.. Just like you I am also an eternal learner.. Growing and improving is an infinite process and I love to learn each and every day by resources from all around the internet and from incoming posts..

What makes this thread special is all of you.. us... a growing family of good willed individuals who want to collaborate and contribute..

And how cliche it sounds.. nobody is perfect right? But as long as it makes sense and it is supported by clear charts and theories I am always open to be criticized. I can simply be wrong just like anyone of you.. therefore I believe we all need second views over our thoughts.. that being said I really appreciate constructive criticism and warnings.. I also care not to force my view as the ultimate truth and don't like it if someone does it to others.. We came here for collaboration and teamwork.. especially to be reminded as early as possible of our own mistakes, if any, or the traps of robber banks..

One last thing: of course the decisions on which button to click should be made by the trader himself.. there will be always noise coming from indicators, from news or from thread members but only the ones who are experienced enough will be able to filter out everything unnecessary.. and unfortunately there will be always a portion of members who will feel misguided, manipulated or lost from reading some posts here.. that's the nature of the tough learning path.. for those all I can say is try not to kill your account.. keep it alive at all costs..

I thank you again for joining and wish you best of success in contributing and trading..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #3,353
  • Nov 1, 2017 7:26pm Nov 1, 2017 7:26pm
Quoting 4for4
@ 68%-chance, I think the EUR can go to 1.1496 ... Waiting for a retracement before selling, but will scrap the attempt if 1.1840 or target is reached first ...
Cancellation level moved to 1.1665 ...
Market is not random but unpredictable
  • #3,354
  • Nov 1, 2017 8:24pm Nov 1, 2017 8:24pm
Just a thought: Jim Cramer once said " don't turn your trades into investment " it makes me thinking. Technically your trade is not lost or won until you close it. Depends on your ability to hold and wait( I mean everything, agenda per tradre, account size etc etc) you can let your losers run until price returns back to you. Off course it can take months and sometimes years but still it's not impossible.
  • #3,355
  • Nov 1, 2017 8:42pm Nov 1, 2017 8:42pm
Quoting denisius
Just a thought: Jim Cramer once said " don't turn your trades into investment " it makes me thinking. Technically your trade is not lost or won until you close it. Depends on your ability to hold and wait( I mean everything, agenda per tradre, account size etc etc) you can let your losers run until price returns back to you. Off course it can take months and sometimes years but still it's not impossible.
If I am not mistaken, wasn't that quote meant to be perceived as related to emotional investment? In other words, don't turn your logical financial calculations into an investment of time, emotion and stress. Such 'investment' destroys the credibility of the trade.

I believe I read this clarification somewhere, may be a different source.

A
Humans are naturally hardwired to avoid and detest uncertainty.
  • #3,356
  • Nov 1, 2017 8:47pm Nov 1, 2017 8:47pm
wowww.. what is happening guys??
how often do you get to see EU shoots up like that during asian hours?
Lets make some green pips
  • #3,357
  • Nov 1, 2017 8:55pm Nov 1, 2017 8:55pm
It's all good. Everything going as it should. Someone just like all of us tired of its god damn range and pushed it up.
  • #3,358
  • Nov 1, 2017 8:57pm Nov 1, 2017 8:57pm
Quoting Dream_trader
{quote} Maybe next week, but I think fibo levels will be reached. First long from 1.1580, second will open from 1.1505, if reach it before TP at 1.1695.
Closed at 1.1670. If now price will not go up and fall to above 1.1620, maybe open new one long. Will see.
  • #3,359
  • Nov 1, 2017 9:00pm Nov 1, 2017 9:00pm
hi
All analyses published from Monday till now.. it stipulates that the 1.17 must be achieved and then will fall at the 1.15. So the "program" made things happen!
Nothing special!
  • #3,360
  • Nov 1, 2017 9:03pm Nov 1, 2017 9:03pm
I closed buying position at 16520(bullish gartly1.23)

Eventually price overshooted 1.167.(1.68Fib complite Bullish gartley)

However I think, bearish power is still valid. So I short first TP 1.16300 or more below1.16220.
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