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  • #10,881
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:12am Oct 27, 2017 8:12am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} Maybe, but there must be a reason he delayed
The smoking gun may very well be in these documents. 2800 pages were released without redactions. There are already some very interesting things being revealed. He has already ordered that the remaining documents be released within 6 months with as few redactions as possible.

"he delayed" ... Be real, if anyone else was president we would never see these documents.

The ones who really were behind the assassination can not be discussed here on FF without being CoCd, suspended, or banned. Hint: Federal Reserve Bank and the people who run it behind the scenes.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #10,882
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:19am Oct 27, 2017 8:19am
Quoting spzd
{quote} The smoking gun may very well be in these documents. 2800 pages were released without redactions. There are already some very interesting things being revealed. He has already ordered that the remaining documents be released within 6 months with as few redactions as possible. "he delayed" ... Be real, if anyone else was president we would never see these documents. The ones who really were behind the assassination can not be discussed here on FF without being CoCd, suspended, or banned. Hint: Federal Reserve Bank and the people who run it...

Code name: "Silver Certificate"
  • #10,883
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:23am Oct 27, 2017 8:23am
Quoting Gamod
So Trump has delayed the release of some docs- either there is something really big in there or he is embarrassed to release what he is allowed to..................................... {image}

Come on man! Do you really think anything new is going to be learned from the release of these documents? Except what she said to who and what he did to them, or what that leader was going to do to that leader at the time when the world was literally on fire! Just more smoke and mirrors! By not releasing the last remaining documents, it at least keeps the conspiracy alive for another 100 years! Study the motive and you will have your answer, the release of a few documents that has been in the governments secret vault for over 40 years isn't going alter the truth, at least not at this point.
  • #10,884
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:28am Oct 27, 2017 8:28am
Quoting spzd
{quote} The smoking gun may very well be in these documents. 2800 pages were released without redactions. There are already some very interesting things being revealed. He has already ordered that the remaining documents be released within 6 months with as few redactions as possible. "he delayed" ... Be real, if anyone else was president we would never see these documents. The ones who really were behind the assassination can not be discussed here on FF without being CoCd, suspended, or banned. Hint: Federal Reserve Bank and the people who run it...
Don't get me wrong S - I think its great he has released them, just worried he might have to hide the really important stuff.

Re the Fed - agreed, sort of.. Biggest clue there is the hidden nationality of nearly all fed chairs.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #10,885
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:30am Oct 27, 2017 8:30am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Come on man! Do you really think anything new is going to be learned from the release of these documents? Except what she said to who and what he did to them, or what that leader was going to do to that leader at the time when the world was literally on fire! Just more smoke and mirrors! By not releasing the last remaining documents, it at least keeps the conspiracy alive for another 100 years! Study the motive and you will have your answer, the release of a few documents that has been in the governments secret vault for over 40 years isn't...
So why bother keeping them hidden for 60 yrs?
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #10,886
  • Oct 27, 2017 8:52am Oct 27, 2017 8:52am
This just in Catalan has declared independence from Spain. The shooting war may start soon.

Quoting Gamod
{quote} So why bother keeping them hidden for 60 yrs?
Producing authentic fakes takes time.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #10,887
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:09am Oct 27, 2017 9:09am
Quoting jmn5611
This just in Catalan has declared independence from Spain. The shooting war may start soon. {quote} Producing authentic fakes takes time.
Time for Spain to go in and clean out the refuse.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #10,888
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:14am Oct 27, 2017 9:14am
Quoting spzd
{quote} Time for Spain to go in and clean out the refuse.
Then the Spanish authorities will be seen as aggressors. The trick will be to see who comes to the aid of the Catalans when the Spanish decide to take your suggestion, and I think they will soon.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #10,889
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:25am Oct 27, 2017 9:25am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} So why bother keeping them hidden for 60 yrs?
To keep people like you guessing for 60 more!
  • #10,890
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:27am Oct 27, 2017 9:27am
Quoting spzd
{quote} Time for Spain to go in and clean out the refuse.
Actually this is what the anti EU supporters want. Its a mere fracture.
  • #10,891
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:28am Oct 27, 2017 9:28am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Then the Spanish authorities will be seen as aggressors. The trick will be to see who comes to the aid of the Catalans when the Spanish decide to take your suggestion, and I think they will soon.

I am watching to see what the EURO will do as a result. This could all be a rouse to head fake the Bears!
  • #10,892
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:30am Oct 27, 2017 9:30am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Then the Spanish authorities will be seen as aggressors. The trick will be to see who comes to the aid of the Catalans when the Spanish decide to take your suggestion, and I think they will soon.
This is being financed and encouraged by outside sources. Catalan has been given all sorts of privileges from the Spanish government. There is no historical backing for independence. Granted Catalan was part of Aragon, but it was but a county in that kingdom. They were under the control of Valencia. So there will come the need for the Spanish government to go in and put an end to this charade.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #10,893
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:37am Oct 27, 2017 9:37am
Quoting spzd
{quote} This is being financed and encouraged by outside sources. Catalan has been given all sorts of privileges from the Spanish government. There is no historical backing for independence. Granted Catalan was part of Aragon, but it was but a county in that kingdom. They were under the control of Valencia. So there will come the need for the Spanish government to go in and put an end to this charade.

Remember they said the same thing about Ho Chi Minh. Never under estimate a foe who is determined to have their independence, for those who do it never works out well for them in the end. The question is, do they have the stomach for it?
  • #10,894
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:49am Oct 27, 2017 9:49am
Brexit, Catalan - any bets for next domino??

My money is on Ireland
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #10,895
  • Oct 27, 2017 9:53am Oct 27, 2017 9:53am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Remember they said the same thing about Ho Chi Minh. Never under estimate a foe who is determined to have their independence, for those who do it never works out well for them in the end. The question is, do they have the stomach for it?
Except Viet Nam did have a history of independence. Ho would have been obliterated if the military were allowed to do its thing. Another factor was the south were basically parasites of the USD.

I think you overestimate the Catalans. They are soft and will likely cave under pressure.

edit: Final analysis is there is no comparison at all between the two.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #10,896
  • Edited 10:12am Oct 27, 2017 9:55am | Edited 10:12am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} To keep people like you guessing for 60 more!
Y .. Cui Bono.
In detegere possumus omnes mortui sunt
  • #10,897
  • Oct 27, 2017 10:16am Oct 27, 2017 10:16am
Quoting spzd
{quote} Except Viet Nam did have a history of independence. Ho would have been obliterated if the military were allowed to do its thing. Another factor was the south were basically parasites of the USD. I think you overestimate the Catalans. They are soft and will likely cave under pressure. edit: Final analysis is there is no comparison at all between the two.

On your last edit, you may be right, however the broader point I was making was not a comparison but a mere lesson from the past. Also, the military being allowed to do it's thing in Vietnam is entirely different debate altogether.
  • #10,898
  • Oct 27, 2017 10:20am Oct 27, 2017 10:20am
Quoting spzd
{quote} Except Viet Nam did have a history of independence. Ho would have been obliterated if the military were allowed to do its thing. Another factor was the south were basically parasites of the USD. I think you overestimate the Catalans. They are soft and will likely cave under pressure. edit: Final analysis is there is no comparison at all between the two.
I don't think the Catalans would not be so bold as to declare independence without some sort of assurances from somewhere. The elephant is whether or not the EU will recognize them or not. If they do, game on.

Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} On your last edit, you may be right, however the broader point I was making was not a comparison but a mere lesson from the past. Also, the military being allowed to do it's thing in Vietnam is entirely different debate altogether.
Vietnam was an unpopular war. If the US had used German style military might the war would have been over quickly. The caveat is whether the USSR would have gotten directly involved.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #10,899
  • Oct 27, 2017 10:23am Oct 27, 2017 10:23am
Quoting Gamod
Brexit, Catalan - any bets for next domino?? My money is on Ireland
Mine is on Italy!
  • #10,900
  • Oct 27, 2017 10:25am Oct 27, 2017 10:25am
Quoting Gamod
{quote} Y .. Cui Bono.
If we follow your theories the bankers benefit from an unstable Euro, especially if they are long USD. The Yen has taken a sharp dive, and Abe has no said anything crazy that I am aware, so something is cooking.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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