Current and Previous Usage, with Different Sets and Tools

CCfp-diff just a recap of methods I have experienced and instrument been used_

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1st Post Introduction: what is this about ?
2nd Post Dedicated to Amateurs n’ my definition of 3 Newbie’s categories_
3rd Post dedicated to How The Ccfp Started with links to the original inspirational thread "The Relative Strength"
4th Post highlighting the great variety of settings using the Ccfp-diff or the Fxm
5th Post Basics of the Previous Current/Ma/Bar

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I have tested the Level-diff Display Indicator long enough and I do not need to test hundreds methods any longer as it has become part of my system so I have stopped all Ccfp tests and now just appreciating some sharing about the way I use it_
Today I don’t have much time, so I will post a lengthy Introduction, hopefully when I’ll get some extra free time I’ll try to be shorter_

Good day everyone, and if someone was about to say oh no, .. wft... Not another Ccfp thread !
It’s not exactly another thread on Ccfp but this is rather a reminder, a recap of various ways to Use the Ccfp, and the way I have been using it throughout all these months_
If the name of ccfp sounds boring to someone, then call it the Previous and the Current, (Pvc) whatever ..

-First gratitude to Ferrux https://www.forexfactory.com/ferrufx the Father of Ccfp who even him 10 years ago
could not think that such an Indicator would have had such a great success_

-My Greetings to Brain the Boss https://www.forexfactory.com/braintheboss who is a smart coder and a gentleman
that once you meet him, he can change your thinking about what real trading is. To understand BtB and to deal with him
it is not easy at first, but once you start you will understand what he has to say about the Market and about his famous Entries and Exit techniques in Auto, then you’ll be fine_ He speaks the language of the Masters, so he is not for all_ and definitely not for those who want a system with the tpl and preset put it on mt4 press a button and get greens … no, no ;-)

-Xmess we all know he is a star and gave us the nice Ea we all use which has been for most of us cause of joy and money while for some others cause of something else ,,,, Bless you too Jess and thank you for this invention of yours_

I am also doing this due to requests I got in my pm inbox and my emails, from a few weeks but unfortunately I had not found the time to post.
What People have been generally asking ? Some would just say: “Have you got a good tpl which makes profits, while some others a bit more intelligent inquired about the real meaning of The current/bar/previous TF TT FT and so on_
Along with using the xmess Ea, quite a few out there became interested to Eax and other Dashboards without knowing where to start and feeling stressed as not many out there were willing to answer their questions, so I am just jotting down some more details

I will use this thread to randomly post some of the Multi usage of the Prev and Current Ccfp and the various ways how to deal with it, and I am sure someone will find a way that will fit his/her style of trading_
I will keep posting stuff I like, and if by chance someone wants to ask a question, I don’t mind if they Use this space to ask any question about this matters_
If you are an amateur and just starting don’t feel bad to ask about basic questions about some of the functions or techniques being used when it comes to deal with the Previous and Current Bar/Ma’s indicator Pairs Display.

Should anyone get upset about your silly questions, you follow your way and don’t be bothered, but pls do ask with intelligence and after having read at least few of the first posts, thank you _
The ones who will criticize a newbie’s behavior’s for asking questions are simply the newbies of years ago,
and probably you as a Forex starter and newbie will be doing the same thing in a few weeks to other new comers..
so here we are, Life is fun_ When we don’t know things we feel bad, and when we know enough “some of us” will feel the right to get pissed off about other’s questions_

So Mr or Miss Rookie if you want to know something, just ask the flippin question !!
Out of consideration I am writing this for those who probably are placing Ccfp or Fxm baskets on their mt4 hoping that they go to profit when they get back from work or even by the time they finished their meal maybe ... Best to learn how to make your own tpl and practice with the tpl you downloaded from somewhere and make it better by making different variations of it if you don’t know how to make one from scratch_ This will avoid you relying on sharks and scammers who will want your money for a silly tpl which could be made in few minutes_
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I joined forex factory in Nov 2016 and first thing I looked was the Eax Dashboard and the Relative Strength Ccfp thread nr_1 and nr_2 so i began In January 2017 to soon make my first templates for the CCfp-diff levels manual trading and I was eager to know more and the reason why it had received a great success amongst traders since 2008_

Special post dedicated to Newbies [like me*(3)]_
And what’s this thing has got to do with this journal thread ? It’s fine, pls wait a sec I needed to mention it and I’ve just started, therefore some preliminary are necessary before proceeding_
You don’t have to read it, but depending on which one of the 3 categories one honestly identifies him/herself it will determine the level of learning one has.. In other words decide now that you are not a starter, decide that you will want to know all there is to know about this thing and you’ll take a big step towards knowledge of systems and techniques and not only Ccfps_ Read it if you can, it just came out like that and I threw it on paper … I am generally fast in making photos illustrations, and documents postings etc .. and I won’t deal with anything that takes me more than 20-30min max per every time I post
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3 newbie categories
Apology for making a sermon out of this, but i gotta say one thing or 2 about Newbies...
First of all I am a Newbie too, just of category (3)
(1)N-1 Newbie that just starts and begins to look at Baby Pips website
then he/she goes to the Auto Systems and gets confused, so the chap
gathers some courage and ask a newbie question, and maybe gets shouted at
by some experienced traders .. that's normal don't get discouraged ...
So the newbie(1) goes back to Baby pips and studies harder_ and he learns
about Forex Times conversion, Rsi, Mov Av.ges etc ...
He learns in which folder to place an indicator and where the expert goes too...
So now he tries some systems posted there and begins from those which display Strategy with
supp res./ pivots levels,, then he advances a bit and start playing with Mtf and there he goes...

(2)N-2 Newbie (2) is one who has learned the basics and also learned that not all things
are immediate to learn and to understand, so now he searches He looks at the FF Auto thread
but he will never ask what is a moving average or where that goes which folder ..
He also knows that before asking a question he needs some reading at least of the first page
to see how it works .. The he looks at the paper Clip and finds some indicators and Ea's ..
He loads them up and begins to see,, but Ohh Sh*** that is not displaying on chart and so N_2
of course wants to know ... so he asks the question or he is too proud to do so and he does
some rearches by using the FF Top window on Top right of the website _ and by chance
he sees a question previously asked that maybe he has a broker with suffix and that is why the indi
does not display ... and so on for all other things ...

(3)N-3 Newbie 3, same as myself, knows a bit more and have got already past the Hell stage of learning all
about the basics and the normal errors that can happen when things are not known etc ...
N_3 knows now taht when somehitng wrong happens, is best to look at the Expert Tab and see
he/she also will know, about basic strategies and have watched the market long enough
to determine a Trend and act accordingly_
N_3 is happy to answer some questions from newbies (2) because that could enrich his knowledge too,
however he might not answer some questions when they come from someone that has not gone trough
the hard work of knowing the basics ...
N_3 can now look at any strategy and roughly understand how it works, though he can still have lots of
questions of course.... but N_3 knows that it is better to read to know more _
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So is best to forget now about all this categories, cos all is needed is a bit of common sense
and start reading to know more ...
I am aware that some times thread start just by proposing a system without a Pdf or manual, but
that happens when the thread starter has not fully known the system itself and he is proposing it
for all other to contribute and make it better ...or maybe he knows the system so well and does not have
the time to compile a Pdf ..

When i don't know something, i read the first things i see, but then i find that the best way is also
to open the Dashboard or the EA which is in front of you and look at the parameters ...
Then click okay and let it appear on chart and start staring at it ... look, watch the colors
and pay attention to the names displayed....
Then go back into parameter box and change something ... go back to chart and look what and why it changed
and so on ... can develop an intuition about things ....

This 3rd Post ... Is about How The Ccfp Started
This was posted already here by me in FF but I re-propose it here as it was my own post_
Not to forget that this thread Journal is not about the usual thread to post tpl and settings for people to blindly follow
this is more about the Knowledge of the Cluster of Currency Lines in the form of a Display Level/Pairs Indicator
maybe on another day i will post a template i luv the most just to see what happens with this settings_

Guys n' girls, Whenever in doubt about Ccfp diff and what it does, look at the relative strength Thread ..
The Ccfp-diff was born there because Ferrux was there 10 years ago , that thread is the Bible for Ccfp _

When market is Trending there is no need to reverse, and reverse option was planned when market was ranging_
Also The yellow signal are based on that, however if you want all the signal to be displayed on ccfp-diff
then you need to set the Level to 11 .. try that now and it will show that 101 %
This link/Post, from my Ccfp-diff notes, Here what Ferrux said about it >< Post 405

This is when Ferrux began to think about the reversal and relased the first ccfp-diff V1.04 Post 209
Before in 1.03, there was no option to use Bar/Ma and there was only the set to current and not current
then Ferrux added the Bar instead of Ma that now we all know and consent us to make Sets such as TF FF FT TT
And here what EsTrader, the real Ccfp-diff Manual Trader use to do
Post 482
Before, before that traders use to trade the Ccfp ,, the one with lines and taking differences manually
by looking at the Data Window, and it was hard work ... now things being simplified .. thanx to this Smart Giants of the Forex
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Some more Links here and explanations
Trading System Using Relative Strength-Part 2
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...20#post2286420
Here the the Ccfpdiff-MTF v1.04 Post 542
and here both Ccfp-diff we all know Post 806 the CCFp-Diff_[v2.0].ex4 and the CCFp-Diff_[v2.0-MTF].ex4

Trading system using relative strength
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...=113181&page=2
Here is more the start of ccfp-diff and this post shows Ferrux making it Post 531
and looks totally different from what it is now
He posted in Oct 13, 2008 @ 4:31 so in gmt it was 09:30 am i guess ..
Here Ferrux began to add colors to the comment and the labels .... Post 869
He put different names for each version so traders won't have headache recognizing which one was it, wise thing to do

The rest of the thread is about people experimenting and making some new types of improved Ccfp ..
but when i say Ccfp i mean the one original with the line whether the Ccfp-diff is the Ferrux one with the levels displayed, in fact
the word diff = difference between levels

This 4th Post is about highlighting the great variety of settings using the Ccfp-diff or the Fxm
Unlimited are the sets which can be made with Ccfp or Fxm dues to the many options which are available in terms of
levels or using the current Bar or the previous,
the Ma’s % or even changing the slow fast Ma settings_

After one has gone through some of the basic settings with the Daily, then there are the
Weekly and the
monthly and the
mix between them + if you add the Mtf with all the different various levels and +
if you're not happy with it, you begin experimenting with the multiple modes offered by the Xmess Ea which could be set to use the Virtual Basket, or not, or using the option to allow duplicate and allowing the opposites or a mix of both,, and so on ..
Then the real fun begins and you probably going to have the busiest time of your life is you get seriously deep into it and as much as I did_
There is also a sample of how I normally list results though the shape of the list and the form has changed many times for easier display

Just out of curiosity one day i began to see how many settings are possible and i had to stop to 720
because i couldn't take it anymore ,,, as the number will be huge, but that helped me and now number 720
is largerly used by me as a magic, and as many other things_

Attached are also some Excel sheets just made my style I used to collect results and the first settings
i was eager to experiment and try after starting with the Xmess Ea weekly monitor

Probably if you want to test all those sets you'll end up needing the latest Amd Ryzen 1700
loading as many mt4 as you can and few baskets for each Mt4
or maybe like me using 4 machines
But all that is not necessary, not useful at all... and just a few sets, a couple of Mt4 and common sense and tactic
will be enough to do the job_ so best not to try.. no worries let me try instead

I let some space for the Basics of Ccfp-diff the Previous_Current/Ma/Bar

Still reminding that here i am doing like a recap of what Ccfp is all about
and not just posting the usual tpl and sets for someone to copy ...
best to know and to and always bear in mind that Ccfp deal with 1'/2' or 2'/3' candles only ...


Ccfp as you know it is based on 2 candles difference + Ma percentage change or Bar
FF = [No Current Candle + MA/3/5] = difference between previous candle and the candle before that + Ma 3/5
FT = [No Current Candle + Bar] ___= difference between previous candle and the candle before that + BAR (price)
TF = [Use Current Candle + Ma] ___= difference between "current" candle and the previous candle + Ma 3/5
TT = [Use Current Candle + Bar] ___= difference between "current" candle and the previous candle + BAR (price)

From a Request and Also for someone who is still a bit unsure how the Ccfp-diff works and why we do see those suggested pairs on Chart, and why the level have numbers. hope a photo will help _

Pls open a Chart with the Ccfp-diff V.02 / 1440 / L2 / TF
See what pairs are there, then Load a CCFP Indicator, the normal one with the Lines.

Open the Data Window (Ctrl+D) , no panic if you no see anything, let it be a few seconds to load all data,
then point the cross-hair exactly in the middle of the last candle to see the value of the current candle
(which in this case in the photo it is an already daily closed candle ) while you keep your cross-hair there,
look on the left in Data window to see the Values of the GBP CURRENCY what is says.Write those values down,
Move the crosshair to previous candle and check those values Subtract between them
and you will see a number that does not even look far away like a Level, so back to the calculator and multiply that number by (x1000)
And whatever result you get round it to the Level

Pls try not to look at the Histogram while you do this, so you will get your surprise in the end when all things match.

After the calculations and subtractions etc Ex: if you get a 1.7
consider it is Level 2 , and if you get it a 1.5 then it is also a Level 2
because it cannot be a Level 1
If you get a lets say 3.6 then it looks like it a 4

Generally Ccfp original uses pairs as: AUDUSD, EURUSD, USDCHF, NZDUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, USDCAD for calculation, and Ferrux explained mentioned it here
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...75#post8464575
however some other versions have used some more complete calculations example: to view The CURRENCY of EUR/GBP/USD
it needs to get the quotes from three other pairs EURUSD, GBPUSD and EURGBP and want to calculate
the CURRENCY of the JPY then some more pairs are neededas: GBPGPY, USDJPY, EURJPY
and why only these and not for ex: ChfJpy/CadJpy ? because the relation
with other currencies is already there .

That is why is called a Cluster because it analyses a large amount of currency pairs, dividing them into separate currencies..

If the name cluster sounds too difficult then you can call them a Group of currency pairs or just a Bunch or Pairs to make it easy_
Aww I hope I got it right and perhaps if Ferrux will see this he can confirm or someone else more expert can do it too_

If you need a CCfp Indicator then it is here https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...64#post2287264
There are some others, some changed to the coders liking but this one should be fine ok_
Lots of things can be done with this Ccfp and for those interested to see value of last candle, ROC rate of change then there are some more
version of CCfp_Roc . / Ccfp_5.1 to be checked ....
Pls note you don't need all these versions of Ccfp, if you don't want use them_
Salut'

[ The next photo is more about how the levels of ccfp-diff are changing trough the hours and days ]

The Yellow Dots on photo are the new pairs being added
and the +1 -2 +2 etc.. numbers are to show how the Levels change trough the day and the week
_ New Pairs Being added means also an opportunity for the EA W.kly Monitor to add new pairs as they add up to the List

_ If the baskets are only traded by throwing a bunch of Settings Lists on a chart and then getting a big DD
one will keep on doing the same mistake over and over for not having dedicated a bit of time
to understand how the levels are working in this lovely display indicator_

It essential and it is a must to bear in mind that using the Ccfp-diff with the Ea who buys./sells
in Auto is like playing the 888 the sweep-stake or the Tombola _
Unless one begins to know where and why the Ea takes certain pairs one won't be able
to master the whole process ...
It is hard to sit and watch, and we are all in a rush to Press the Button and pray for Greens
but time will tell if we were just lucky or good enough to reduce avoid DD and trade well because
of our observation and cleverness _

In this post you will notice how ccfp-diff-sets or FT based on previous candle do not change
and how sets with TT bat or even TF Curr+Ma do change slowly during the week as the bar is still
forming and therefore subject to changes_

About playing this on LIVE Account ... ?
Nope i don't think so dude ! Well at least not today ... ;-)

.. Unless you know what you are doing and what are your risks
__/ I can play this live with short terms baskets where i set an external Ea to manage trades for me
and get rid if the bad apples as soon as they are not anymore recoverable trades _
The term recoverable trade was first introduced by Brain the Boss
He said that fixed sl are useless because they could close a trade which in the end for just a few pips
and could have been a win rather than a loss ... if you know what i mean ...

PLease Note :
I am not posting this photos to show: <ehy look how many pips i made> ...
as i would be immature in my behavior by doing so ,.. Pips whether Big or small
are made just out of luck ... when it comes to trade this in Auto ... but could be, might be different on manual ccfp-diff

These are screenshots taken during live trades on weekly baskets or monthly where basically if you lucky enough you will be in DD only for 3/4 days with minimum 2,000 pips which in my case as i got the Gbp account could mean for me a loss of over 200 quids_
After risking losing money all the time i just gave up the idea to let an Ea trade for me using my real money_
But it can be useful for more short term strategies where the risk is much less and calculated _

The Sequence is My Most Reliable Method when it comes to Ccfp Calculated-Auto-Stake

There is a huge difference between using MANUAL Ccfp-diff levels Displayer, and AUTO Pair Displayer
you can easily control the first, but hard to control the second_
For Example the best manual Ccfp-diff trades were those played with the TF on both Daily and Weekly
and you could see and use the daily pairs as a trigger and continuation of the weekly or just a temp reverse ..
In Manual all seem to be better and more relaxing, but time is an issue if people are on full time work.

I have been experiencing with Ccfp using all kind of inventive methods that I could
and also of course listening to what others tried as well...
However i found that one of the things I have tried and worked well
it is a Simple Sequence of how baskets are likely to close
based on past observation and current behaviors according to the Market feeling of the day _
is that too complicated ? maybe yes or not ... but i found this to be more reliable than rather betting a few ccfps lists and hoping for good_
The Market Pulse is something more important than any Ccfp-diff or Ea set up ..
The market is always right and never weird and it is what it is and can dismantle all the best EA'd and set ups...

Reminder about that here we do things that are likely to have a certain percentage of success or call it right guessing_ Nothing is certain_
It's like watching a football match were the ticket is Free and you get paid for it.
If you try to place those baskets i have in photos and watch them for a week or so then you will notice something
in their behavior and slowly slowly with time a sequence will be formed that will reveal essential information ..
Not to forget that nothing is ever sure ,,

I noticed many and many times that when for example a W/2/TF goes up in value and pips are rising
then there will be "a loss in TT", while FT will still lose but less than TT .. ...
after a while all this will help you give a feel of the market type and possibly being able to determine
which sets are likely to rise or fall ... but i have as a rule the 400-500 pips ... which only means
after a rise of 400-500 pips and a fall of 100-200 should the basket go up or down again whichever direction
does not matter i will be able to enter market from that moment ...
Sorry am not good to explain things really .. i will try with practical example next time i do it

Nice to see you here with your own thread. I hope this thread grow fast.

HI Sam thank you ... just a Journal for Re-Cap the Ccfp-diff _
I have terminated all experiment with Ccfp and i found a personal method that works for me
so hope this thread helps others ...
So lol, soon am gonna go back testing all your pins again eheh _

The Ccfp-diff can be Used with Various Trading Instruments which are enabled to read and display its signals
Here is an example of how i have been trading the Ccfp-diff which in this case was the Indis converted into PIN
and made by the great Sam https://www.forexfactory.com/sam2x
My Favo Tool for Ccfp-diff is the xmess and Eax .. however nowadays the Ea has gone trough many modifications
which have lost the original purpose and weaken the power of the basket due to teh Ea not being able to take
certain pairs on 2 or 4 lists of ccfp's while being able to take pairs when they are on 3 or lists ..
not jessxmess fault, as he only follow what people suggest and he does it for the good of everyone ..
Anyway no problem as I found the solution in Eax .... I will explain what the problem is with Xmess Ea at the moment ,,, and how it could be resolved by using the EAX DB

This is the xmess website where to find the latest Ea’s
http://xm7.info/ea/ccfp_weekly/
And talking about the EAX this is an initial Video to start with
but i should make more videos when i get the chance: Post 5,778
As for now i am quite busy with BTBoss amazing Tools and systems_

Pls note and reminder that this is a Journal when I am doing the Recap of how I got started
and how things changed throughout the months to give people using the Ccfp a better understanding
and a little of history which helps to gain a wider knowledge of the matter_
I am not specifically starting all this just to post some templates and settings, as anyone can do that
and then later post in thread by saying: “Opps here they are my monthly settings are growing or my weekly
are losing” and so on…
Well we all did that and that is normally done by Ccfp starters and of course such posts should not be expected
to be seen so often in a thread by Pro-ccfp-diff traders as that will look elementary and boring_
Later I will post some of my methods to use the Ccfp_
Greens is not the point , the Method is the Point and basic understanding and the GREENS will follow

Subscribed...

What the Issue of The Ea-wkly Monitor is at the moment
.. Looking at photo 1 you will see that after i set up
the option Allow Duplicate to False the Ea wont be able to take pairs of the same symbol
which are seen twice on 2 different lists, whether the Ea will take them if it see it times ...
So in this case if i had a basket of 3 and for example as per photo where AUDUSD and EURAUD
in this case will not be taken because they are displayed twice .. whether pairs like NzdUsd and UsdChf will be taken
as they are displayed 3 times ... on 3 lists ...

Pls note this happens with option allow Duplicates to false
Next photo show EAX which takes these pairs which were not taken by the Ea wkly monitor ..
EAX by Default does not Allow Duplicates to be Taken and does not allow Opposites to be taken
so she was perfect for the Job ...
I will proceed for more application about Eax with Ccfp-diff Eax Pins and so on _

Here i try to compare Eax with the Ea and see if the results are any different
slightly different behaviors but interesting because in EAX i can add filters
and filter trades the way i want .... i will show soon the Multiple ways it can be used

About how to check the stats per basket it is easy by magic number
and pulling out the trade report on chart and by selecting

1. Trade Closed
2. Trades opened and closed and
3. Trade Still opened

and calculate the difference to know if any loss of profit .. this is helpful especially if using an external EA
which will keep trailing and collecting profits but it will only appear to take profit but eventually
all of the bad negatives trades will be left into the basket
making it difficult to reach the basket TP .. so a balance for everything is needed _

I like to often trade the Best of my Ccfp sets with Eax style
But the point is there is no best set ... and all is random
when it comes to baskets and auto trading _
what is really important is a method with planned entries and exits _

PLS NOTE again this is not about results
THIS IS ONLY TO SHOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETS
and how could someone try different sets depending for his mind set
MAKE YOUR OWN SETS Pal !! Do not buy Sets from anyone
they are easy to make just a little mind effort and follow the game easily_

Here i have only set up 3 SETS of
-Normal Ccfp-diff (Ferrux)
-1 Fxm ...FxMdns (Condit1 as Ccfp) and ..
-1 Fxm ...(Condit1 as Strenght)
and i guess we all know what the difference can be when using those 2
it seems that strength responds well to signals /

All the best, I am sure just like the quality of all your analysis this will be very popular and extremely valuable ... appreciated!