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  • #10,701
  • Oct 23, 2017 2:37am Oct 23, 2017 2:37am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} If somebody does not accept the argument that if the Earth were flat, there would be no horizon (the objects in the distance would just become smaller and not vanish below the horizon) it is a waste of time to discuss anything more advanced. Cheers, k

I fully understand. Like this ? It is clear that it does not disappear due to curvature at the horizon, it is perspective and it maintains it's thirds structure above the horizon and so just getting smaller, if it were going over a curve hull would disappear then bridge, then mast. It's quite clear it doesn't.

https://youtu.be/0xWsuFLdgBs
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  • #10,702
  • Oct 23, 2017 2:48am Oct 23, 2017 2:48am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I fully understand. Like this ? It is clear that it does not disappear due to curvature at the horizon, it is perspective and it maintains it's thirds structure above the horizon and so just getting smaller, if it were going over a curve hull would disappear then bridge, then mast. It's quite clear it doesn't. https://youtu.be/0xWsuFLdgBs
The end of this video (when you clearly just see the mast above the horizon) absolutely disproves the Flat Earth.
Please, on a day with no wind leave the basement, go to the sea, pick up a pair of binoculars (or a telescope) and just observe the ships.
k
  • #10,703
  • Oct 23, 2017 2:56am Oct 23, 2017 2:56am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} The end of this video (when you clearly just see the mast above the horizon) absolutely disproves the Flat Earth. Please, on a day with no wind leave the basement, go to the sea, pick up a pair of binoculars (or a telescope) and just observe the ships. k
Even better, go on a tourist ship or a ferry which brings you to some island. You are clearly going to see the highest peak of the island above the horizon first.
k
  • #10,704
  • Oct 23, 2017 3:15am Oct 23, 2017 3:15am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} The end of this video (when you clearly just see the mast above the horizon) absolutely disproves the Flat Earth. Please, on a day with no wind leave the basement, go to the sea, pick up a pair of binoculars (or a telescope) and just observe the ships. k
And how far away was that ? Did I respect you ? Foxtrot Oscar with your basement talk who TF do you think you are ?
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  • #10,705
  • Oct 23, 2017 3:31am Oct 23, 2017 3:31am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} Even better, go on a tourist ship or a ferry which brings you to some island. You are clearly going to see the highest peak of the island above the horizon first. k

Been out on the Oggin more times than you've had hot dinners I suspect.
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  • #10,706
  • Oct 23, 2017 3:34am Oct 23, 2017 3:34am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I fully understand. Like this ? It is clear that it does not disappear due to curvature at the horizon, it is perspective and it maintains it's thirds structure above the horizon and so just getting smaller, if it were going over a curve hull would disappear then bridge, then mast. It's quite clear it doesn't. https://youtu.be/0xWsuFLdgBs
Stu, that's exactly what happens at the end of that video.

Hate to say it, but you and the others who are advocating the stuff about the flat earth are massively discrediting yourselves.

I respect that you have the balls just to say it though, inspite of inevitable criticism that was sure to come your way.

However I'm still hoping for you to turn round and tell us you are taking the piss lol.
  • #10,707
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:29am Oct 23, 2017 4:29am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} The trump nuts are so funny ... they are always giving Trump the benefit of the doubt but are always denying Clinton the same courtesy.
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  • #10,708
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:31am Oct 23, 2017 4:31am
Quoting marinecorps
{quote} What lake is that? Looks nice.
Lake Greenwood --- Greenwood side mile from the dam.
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  • #10,709
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:34am Oct 23, 2017 4:34am
Quoting verv
{quote} Stu, that's exactly what happens at the end of that video. Hate to say it, but you and the others who are advocating the stuff about the flat earth are massively discrediting yourselves. I respect that you have the balls just to say it though, inspite of inevitable criticism that was sure to come your way. However I'm still hoping for you to turn round and tell us you are taking the piss lol.
I'm not nor ever have been advocating flat earth I 've made statements about things I have an issues with. I'm not taking the piss.

I mentioned yesterday about transferring Ordnance Bench Marks ? No takers.

I maintain water is always level. I think what you see at the very end of that vid is the limit of the zoom and distortion.
I have spent a fair amount of time on the sea and understand that some objects just shouldn't be visible but they are.
You can find them if you want to research it.
And as for discrediting myself, I'm sure there are many in history who have had the same statement thrown at them, it goes with the territory if you go against any grain but thanks for the concern !
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  • #10,710
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:40am Oct 23, 2017 4:40am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Hmm. Just about half of you wanted her to be your president. And you voted Obama in, not once, as you couldn't get enough of him, but twice!
There is sometimes good in the worse of bad. Clinton and Bush didn't wake the country up. The combination of the bammer, Reed, Pelosi and that bunch of clowns called the republican party did.
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  • #10,711
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:43am Oct 23, 2017 4:43am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Try to hang around for awhile!
Hey J -- good seeing you. When one of us old farts disappears for awhile -- rest of us old farts starts wondering if ya still on the right side of the grass!
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  • #10,712
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:46am Oct 23, 2017 4:46am
Quoting Gamod
Is this what they mean by white privilege?? St. Louis, MO: 13% Black Population Causes 74% of Crime, 92% of Murder http://newobserveronline.com/st-louis-mo-13-black-population-causes-74-of-crime-92-of-murder/
The racist tag is getting old so the race baiting industry had to come up with something new to keep things stirred up. White privilege and white supremacist now the buzz words.
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  • #10,713
  • Oct 23, 2017 4:50am Oct 23, 2017 4:50am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} who TF do you think you are ?
I am somebody who
(1) doesn't live 24/7 in my parents' basement,
(2) am not blind,
(3) have been to the sea,
(4) am able to imagine what the scenery would look like if the Earth was flat,
(5) have clearly observed a disagreement with this scenario (including in the video you claimed proved otherwise),
(6) have concluded based on this that the Earth is not flat.

Your mileage through this argument may vary, however.
All the best,
k
  • #10,714
  • Oct 23, 2017 5:19am Oct 23, 2017 5:19am
Btw, this little summary is from Cosmos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos_(magazine)), I read it on my ipad just the other day.
Cheers,
k

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  • #10,715
  • Oct 23, 2017 5:47am Oct 23, 2017 5:47am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} I am somebody who (1) doesn't live 24/7 in my parents' basement, (2) am not blind, (3) have been to the sea, (4) am able to imagine what the scenery would look like if the Earth was flat, (5) have clearly observed a disagreement with this scenario (including in the video you claimed proved otherwise), (6) have concluded based on this that the Earth is not flat. Your mileage through this argument may vary, however. All the best, k
I really don't know why you insist on referring to parents basement ?
My father is 90 and in a home for war time sea farers. My mother passed in 2011 aged 87. What are you suggesting ?

I have eyes too and if you google Meols, Wirral you will find it is 56 miles away as the crow flies from Blackpool Tower that has an elevation of 550' above sea level. Should not be able to see it but I can and my eyes aren't the best either !

You didn't respond to the transfer of Ordnance Bench Marks either, which is fine.
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  • #10,716
  • Oct 23, 2017 6:00am Oct 23, 2017 6:00am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} Hey J -- good seeing you. When one of us old farts disappears for awhile -- rest of us old farts starts wondering if ya still on the right side of the grass!
Oh gosh, like that is it?
  • #10,717
  • Oct 23, 2017 6:04am Oct 23, 2017 6:04am
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} I really don't know why you insist on referring to parents basement ? What are you suggesting ?
I was suggesting that you must be either living underground and/or (more likely and) be an edgy teenager if you haven't acknowledged the existence of horizon.
What you seem to be saying is that you are an adult, actually living at the seaside, and having been to a ship of some sort.

In this case I'd think you've stuck at line labelled (4) of my argument above. I am not sure I can help with that though.

k
  • #10,718
  • Oct 23, 2017 6:04am Oct 23, 2017 6:04am
Rain day so in and out today. The uranium (treason) story continues to grow. Becoming clear now that the entire special prosecutor joke is a plan cooked up by the soros-democrat-media complex to cover their own tracks. Trump biding his time. Here is what I think might happen. During the holidays, possibly Christmas which falls on a Monday, Trump will fire Muller and Sessions and immediately appoint someone like Gowdy or Giuliani as a recess appointee. They would then appoint two special prosecutors -- one to investigate the clinton foundation, clinton emails and the uranium deal. The other would investigate the Holder gun running (fast and furious) and the Lynch Clinton -- Lynch meeting. Gowdy and other committees can hold all the investigations they want but unless we have a active justice dept -- means nothing. Probably 3/4 of the justice dept now clinton, bush, bammer holdovers. Got to clean all them out and start over with real investigators.

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  • #10,719
  • Oct 23, 2017 6:05am Oct 23, 2017 6:05am
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There is no low the scumbags won't stoop too.
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  • #10,720
  • Oct 23, 2017 6:22am Oct 23, 2017 6:22am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} I was suggesting that you must be either living underground and/or (more likely and) be an edgy teenager if you haven't acknowledged the existence of horizon. What you seem to be saying is that you are an adult, actually living at the seaside, and having been to a ship of some sort. In this case I'd think you've stuck at line labelled (4) of my argument above. I am not sure I can help with that though. k
Yes ok if you say so. I did this a while back as was going for a commercial endorsement. Just the kind of thing you do if you like a day at the seaside.

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