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  • #10,601
  • Oct 19, 2017 4:38am Oct 19, 2017 4:38am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Someone who is an atheist /nihilist/agnostic/cynical just like myself (: ... and I don't know anyone like that in politics ..
We may have a few like that. Tell you what, we'll swap you them for Trump. We'll have Trump.
  • #10,602
  • Oct 19, 2017 5:01am Oct 19, 2017 5:01am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Someone who is an atheist /nihilist/agnostic/cynical just like myself (: ... and I don't know anyone like that in politics ..
I understand why you are saying that, there are very few politicians that I actually like either.

Unfortunately the world is not how we would would like it to be, so instead we are forced to deal with how it actually is.

Liking candidates isn’t necessary to make a choice, liking their policies isn’t necessary either.

At it’s most basic voting is about choosing better over worse. In Northern Ireland that is generally the choice you have to make at every election.

So from a purely pragmatic point, either Trump or Clinton were going to get elected. If you were compelled to vote who would you have voted for?
  • #10,603
  • Oct 19, 2017 5:07am Oct 19, 2017 5:07am
Quoting verv
{quote} I understand why you are saying that, there are very few politicians that I actually like either. Unfortunately the world is not how we would would like it to be, so instead we are forced to deal with how it actually is. Liking candidates isn’t necessary to make a choice, liking their policies isn’t necessary either. At it’s most basic voting is about choosing better over worse. In Northern Ireland that is generally the choice you have to make at every election. So from a purely pragmatic point, either Trump or Clinton were going to get...
If I had to choose, then Trump.
Just to put a spanner in the gears, to upset the apple cart, just to piss people off .. yes indeed Trump.
So far it's working (;
  • #10,604
  • Oct 19, 2017 5:16am Oct 19, 2017 5:16am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} If I had to choose, then Trump. Just to put a spanner in the gears, to upset the apple cart, just to piss people off .. yes indeed Trump. So far it's working (;
Well done, Ming.
  • #10,605
  • Oct 19, 2017 5:40am Oct 19, 2017 5:40am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} If I had to choose, then Trump. Just to put a spanner in the gears, to upset the apple cart, just to piss people off .. yes indeed Trump. So far it's working (;
I think that is the reason why a large amount of people ended up voting for Trump.

One American friend of mine was initially convinced (like you) that Trump was a Democrat plant, and then reluctantly changed his mind and voted for Trump at the election because Clinton was his words 'certain death' whereas Trump was curable, after the first press conference he was convinced he choose the right person.

That first press conference everyone got it.
  • #10,606
  • Oct 19, 2017 6:25am Oct 19, 2017 6:25am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} There is no one that I can think of who would make a good "serious" president worth getting behind. The current one is so funny I can't help myself .. So in my opinion, Trump is the best hilarious president that has ever held office, and I like that in a president.
And your thoughts on the question Stu posed????????

I'm really interested in your solutions to all our problems including NK and Iran.
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  • #10,607
  • Oct 19, 2017 6:53am Oct 19, 2017 6:53am
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This scandal is literately exploding. We also have another old saying -- whatever the democrats are accusing you of is what they have done and are trying to cover up. Judicial watch and couple reporters all over it. It includes bribes, political payoffs, money laundering, millions to the Clinton s while she was secretary of state. It involved the FBI warning the bammer administration then attempting to cover the thing up. Mueller was the FBI chief at the time and all the characters including Comey who were involved in creating the special prosecutor were involved, so this entire special prosecutor charade is starting to make sense now. It also makes sense why they were so adamant about getting Sessions to recuse himself. It is getting to the point Trump will be able able to fire the entire bunch and hire a real prosecutor to go after the real criminals, which also seems to include the bammer.

And that, folks, is why the swamp is so desperately seeking to destroy the president -- and why so many of us have his back -- and will defend it at any cost. As the vaunted Ming has stated -- we are at war.
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  • #10,608
  • Edited 8:31am Oct 19, 2017 7:42am | Edited 8:31am
Quoting jarhead
{image} This scandal is literately exploding. We also have another old saying -- whatever the democrats are accusing you of is what they have done and are trying to cover up. Judicial watch and couple reporters all over it. It includes bribes, political payoffs, money laundering, millions to the Clinton s while she was secretary of state. It involved the FBI warning the bammer administration then attempting to cover the thing up. Mueller was the FBI chief at the time and all the characters including Comey who were involved in creating the special...
If you can provide links please.

Amazing that this is not being covered more widely - if true.
  • #10,609
  • Oct 19, 2017 7:57am Oct 19, 2017 7:57am
There's a different kind of bigotry expressed towards Trump by his opponents, his haters and even those that reluctantly voted for him. It's in the notion that he's not presidential. Many feel this disqualifies Trump. It's a kind of bigotry that someone who is like Trump should not be president. The fact is the people who voted for Trump are in many ways LIKE Trump.
  • #10,610
  • Oct 19, 2017 8:24am Oct 19, 2017 8:24am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} If I had to choose, then Trump. Just to put a spanner in the gears, to upset the apple cart, just to piss people off .. yes indeed Trump. So far it's working (;

Wow Ming at last gets off the fence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rock 'n Roll !!
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  • #10,611
  • Oct 19, 2017 8:26am Oct 19, 2017 8:26am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} And your thoughts on the question Stu posed???????? I'm really interested in your solutions to all our problems including NK and Iran.

Steady on Jim 2 almost straight answers might be a bit too much to ask in 1 day.
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  • #10,612
  • Oct 19, 2017 9:15am Oct 19, 2017 9:15am
Quoting Boudica
Is there a link between increased cancer rates and vaccines? Murdered Holistic Doctors Discovered Cancer-Causing Enzyme Being Added to All Vaccines http://www.thebigriddle.com/2015/12/murdered-holistic-doctors-discovered.html
BOMBSHELL: Flu shots scientifically proven to weaken immune response in subsequent years… researchers stunned (https://thecommonsenseshow.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=56cae7f811e7fc4a7f0b42d65&id=f387dde978&e=482c3ae401)
  • #10,613
  • Oct 19, 2017 9:32am Oct 19, 2017 9:32am
Quoting Boudica
{quote} BOMBSHELL: Flu shots scientifically proven to weaken immune response in subsequent years… researchers stunned (https://thecommonsenseshow.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=56cae7f811e7fc4a7f0b42d65&id=f387dde978&e=482c3ae401)
I knew that already. We never have flu jabs. My younger one had a flu sniff (squirted up the nose) when she was 2 and that gave her a bad dose of flu! Look up "Kam Wo Char." It is a Chinese herbal remedy. Prior to flu, the majority of time, you will have a sore throat. When you do get a sore throat, take this tea and you will not get the flu. Guaranteed. It's pretty horrible and you might occasionally take it needlessly, but it always prevents flu. Never have the jab.
  • #10,614
  • Oct 19, 2017 9:35am Oct 19, 2017 9:35am
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  • #10,615
  • Oct 19, 2017 9:45am Oct 19, 2017 9:45am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I knew that already. We never have flu jabs. My younger one had a flu sniff (squirted up the nose) when she was 2 and that gave her a bad dose of flu! Look up "Kam Wo Char." It is a Chinese herbal remedy. Prior to flu, the majority of time, you will have a sore throat. When you do get a sore throat, take this tea and you will not get the flu. Guaranteed. It's pretty horrible and you might occasionally take it needlessly, but it always prevents flu. Never have the jab.
Me neither but its the nagalese they put in it that worries me most.
  • #10,616
  • Oct 19, 2017 10:08am Oct 19, 2017 10:08am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Someone who is an atheist /nihilist/agnostic/cynical just like myself (: ... and I don't know anyone like that in politics ..
You can't be an atheist and an agnostic. The definition of agnosticism means you don't know if God exists.
The definition of atheism means you deny the existence of a creator. How can you deny a creator's existence if you don't know if he exists?
A quandry for sure.
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  • #10,617
  • Oct 19, 2017 10:21am Oct 19, 2017 10:21am
Quoting Boudica
{quote} BOMBSHELL: Flu shots scientifically proven to weaken immune response in subsequent years… researchers stunned (https://thecommonsenseshow.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=56cae7f811e7fc4a7f0b42d65&id=f387dde978&e=482c3ae401)

It's only a bombshell if you wear those airline eye masks all day, every day.
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  • #10,618
  • Oct 19, 2017 11:18am Oct 19, 2017 11:18am
Quoting Boudica
{quote} Me neither but its the nagalese they put in it that worries me most.
Eh?

Ingredients:
Chinese giant hyssop(plant), Chinese skullcap(root), Flowering Quince(fruit), Chinese hawthorn(fruit), Gardenia(fruit), Japanese honeysuckle(flower), Chinese mint(aboveground parts), Tangerine(dried rind), Forsythia(root), Asian water plantain(rhizomer), Cang-zhu atractylodes(rhizome), Lophatherum(stem & leaf).
  • #10,619
  • Oct 19, 2017 11:31am Oct 19, 2017 11:31am
Quoting AlexC
{quote} You can't be an atheist and an agnostic. The definition of agnosticism means you don't know if God exists. The definition of atheism means you deny the existence of a creator. How can you deny a creator's existence if you don't know if he exists? A quandry for sure. {image}
Good question
Atheism cannot imply denial because denial would imply there is something to deny! , it implies "no god" in the same way that agnosticism implies " not knowing", IMO due to the lack of evidence!.
It's a neutral and default position until proven otherwise
  • #10,620
  • Oct 19, 2017 12:04pm Oct 19, 2017 12:04pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Eh? Ingredients: Chinese giant hyssop(plant), Chinese skullcap(root), Flowering Quince(fruit), Chinese hawthorn(fruit), Gardenia(fruit), Japanese honeysuckle(flower), Chinese mint(aboveground parts), Tangerine(dried rind), Forsythia(root), Asian water plantain(rhizomer), Cang-zhu atractylodes(rhizome), Lophatherum(stem & leaf).
In the vaccine
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