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  • #1,461
  • Oct 11, 2017 8:50am Oct 11, 2017 8:50am
Quoting Price
{quote} That's interesting. You do consulting?.... And you show these writings to your clients?? Do you speak to your clients the way you speak in here as well?? Just curious, it's ok if you don't respond . . @ Copernicus.... ROFL indeed
i dont understand your question? tell me whats wrong how i write here! its always same, people tell something without showing arguments, and when they show and see why i did this as answer, they always shut up and see their mistakes. i calculate you to this small group for this moment.

and i dont show it to my clients, i show it to the people who get trained and need to learn something, i am no consultant for private people.
  • #1,462
  • Oct 11, 2017 8:58am Oct 11, 2017 8:58am
Meh.... thank you for the short response. Two or three sentences was totally sufficient.

I saw your posts from 9 months ago. Your posts were shorter, more respectful, and some of them made sense. Good times.

I'm gonna go ahead and just leave you alone now.

Ciao
  • #1,463
  • Oct 11, 2017 9:08am Oct 11, 2017 9:08am
Quoting Price
Meh.... thank you for the short response. Two or three sentences was totally sufficient. I saw your posts from 9 months ago. Your posts were shorter, more respectful, and some of them made sense. Good times. I'm gonna go ahead and just leave you alone now. Ciao
then simple tell me what makes no sense? you have again no arguments, so i cant judge if you say it only because of not reading all why i write it, or just for fun post.
not easy to talk, when you dont say something.

when something from last posts dont make sense, its most of time because most thinks will only make sense when you think about it more deep or are at a more advanced trading level. many thinks maybe will never happen to you, and so you cant understand it.
i dont know if you are already familar with the trading basics, because without you cant see the sense. and respectfull i am, maybe i am normal to people you are it not by themself, but looks you cant see it by your own. like i told you correct you are in this little group (post before), you have to dig you out by yourself.
  • #1,464
  • Oct 11, 2017 9:24am Oct 11, 2017 9:24am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Coffee-talks with CrucialPoint: How I Cracked and Solved the Puzzle. {quote} It's not a BS question... It's an excellent and a very smart question (sorry for the grammar or misspelling in advance, don't have time to check) I inherited some innate skills from my Father's side. On my Father's side there are 4 highly successful Entrepreneurs (including my Dad). Highly street-smart and strong work ethics. Mum is the trophy wife, nobody excelled from her side of the family. Grandpa (my Dad's father) was also a successful entrepreneur....

owa tagoos isam................................ keep saying this over and over again till you get the secret message.
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
  • #1,465
  • Edited 10:15am Oct 11, 2017 9:32am | Edited 10:15am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i dont understand your question? tell me whats wrong how i write here! its always same, people tell something without showing arguments, and when they show and see why i did this as answer, they always shut up and see their mistakes. i calculate you to this small group for this moment. and i dont show it to my clients, i show it to the people who get trained and need to learn something, i am no consultant for private people.
' they always shut up and see their mistakes' - they shut up because they dont want to argue with you....losing energy without gaining anything is a lost battle .


And for your attacks that are all over the FF...here are some samples. Here here and list is big but im busy and its not worthing my energy to check more...


Feel free to NOT RESPOND TO THIS ! PLEASE

NONETHELESS i'm still waiting for your high class FX teacher to show your trading system, IF YOU EVER TRADED! I BET YOU DID BUT YOU FAILED THAT'S WHY YOU TEACH!

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  • #1,466
  • Oct 11, 2017 9:41am Oct 11, 2017 9:41am
Quoting Fxentropy
{quote} ' they always shut up and see their mistakes' - they shut up because they dont want to argue with you....losing energy without gaining anything is a lost battle . And for your attacks that are all over the FF...here are some samples. Here here and list is big but im busy and its not worthing my energy to check more... Feel free to NOT RESPOND TO THIS ! PLEASE NONETHELESS...
you are such a liar. you attacked me, claim i did attack other without reason, but showing you can nothing! then you try to hide this fact. thats so stupid. and ofcourse, by losing any discussion with arguments you cant win anything. i really thought you will recognize after you lost again and again without arguments and start learning basics so that you are not unarmed in a discusion all the time. but it dont looks like you will do so.

i am so respectfull, even against such a person like you, i still answer quite normal, and lets be honest, you dont deserve it in general with your total attacking attitude. but you cant stop writing wrong things and bullshit.
what to say to this , live with your problems.
  • #1,467
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:12am Oct 11, 2017 10:12am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are such a liar. you attacked me, claim i did attack other without reason, but showing you can nothing! then you try to hide this fact. thats so stupid. and ofcourse, by losing any discussion with arguments you cant win anything. i really thought you will recognize after you lost again and again without arguments and start learning basics so that you are not unarmed in a discusion all the time. but it dont looks like you will do so. i am so respectfull, even against such a person like you, i still answer quite normal, and lets be honest,...
...yeah.....moving on!
"What would you attempt to do, if you knew your success was a certainty?"
  • #1,468
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:16am Oct 11, 2017 10:16am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Like I said, the biggest part of my success was due to luck: I was born and inherited certain genes. I was born in a family of successful people. I was given the right environment to developed certain skills. I had professional coaches which I never had time to mention (and others). I had teachers/business people change the course and direction of my life. I had the free time/support to pursue whatever I wanted and was not tied down to hindering circumstances. etc....
question is.. is it really luck or even human life/destiny is ruled by some system... rhetorical question.


Good for You, Good luck on Your path.
  • #1,469
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:25am Oct 11, 2017 10:25am
Quoting nealpek
For those of you having a difficult time in the markets, there is hope. There is a set of videos on youtube from a trader called ICT. He is the only one on youtube I have ever found that comes close to what I do. I'm not even sure he truly understands what he has discovered, but my trading system shares some aspects of what he shows. It took me a long time to uncover what I believe to be the mechanics or true underlying structure of how the markets function. There may be other ways, I just haven't found any that produce the consistency to this degree....
while his "teachings" may be sound. Disclaimer for many people reading this. Its been proven ICT cant trade his way out of a paper bag. Blown up accounts and raked in much money selling his "knowledge"
  • #1,470
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:29am Oct 11, 2017 10:29am
Quoting Piphunter00
{quote} while his "teachings" may be sound. Disclaimer for many people reading this. Its been proven ICT cant trade his way out of a paper bag. Blown up accounts and raked in much money selling his "knowledge"
Robbin Cup this year proved that, countless demo's blown away did that too....

He is just a clever market maker that last year alone got +1Mio from subscribers....

"Those who can't trade - teach"
"What would you attempt to do, if you knew your success was a certainty?"
  • #1,471
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:29am Oct 11, 2017 10:29am
CP, you answered like you have been waiting for it for a long time. Shame on you. At least I had a good laugh reading it and figured out another clue you gave us: your ego is in direct correlation with your imagination which is godlike

TRD

Quoting CrucialPoint
Coffee-talks with CrucialPoint: How I Cracked and Solved the Puzzle. {quote} It's not a BS question... It's an excellent and a very smart question (sorry for the grammar or misspelling in advance, don't have time to check) I inherited some innate skills from my Father's side. On my Father's side there are 4 highly successful Entrepreneurs (including my Dad). Highly street-smart and strong work ethics. Mum is the trophy wife, nobody excelled from her side of the family. Grandpa (my Dad's father) was also a successful entrepreneur....
  • #1,472
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:36am Oct 11, 2017 10:36am
Quoting Fxentropy
{quote} Robbin Cup this year proved that, countless demo's blown away did that too.... He is just a clever market maker that last year alone got +1Mio from subscribers.... "Those who can't trade - teach"
Its from twitter, and this another example LIVE for a wanna be millionaire from trading....heck, not trading itself but mentoring!

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  • #1,473
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:38am Oct 11, 2017 10:38am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} then simple tell me what makes no sense? you have again no arguments,
Yup. No arguments with you.

I do not disagree with any of your viewpoints.

I do not believe you are wrong about anything.

Just one simple issue.>>>>>> "Your writing style. It seems very aggressive and unfriendly"

Do as you wish, but sometimes when people talk a lot, it forces other people to listen.(not literally "forces") It can consume other people's time and thoughts. May be no concern of yours, idk.

To make one's point with few, well thought out sentences, seems respectful.

Have a good day.
  • #1,474
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:50am Oct 11, 2017 10:50am
Quoting CrucialPoint
Coffee-talks with CrucialPoint: How I Cracked and Solved the Puzzle. {quote} It's not a BS question... It's an excellent and a very smart question (sorry for the grammar or misspelling in advance, don't have time to check) I inherited some innate skills from my Father's side. On my Father's side there are 4 highly successful Entrepreneurs (including my Dad). Highly street-smart and strong work ethics. Mum is the trophy wife, nobody excelled from her side of the family. Grandpa (my Dad's father) was also a successful entrepreneur....
the rest of us should just give it up right now, at least me I don't have all those things going for me. so I don't stand a chance.
  • #1,475
  • Oct 11, 2017 10:59am Oct 11, 2017 10:59am
Quoting Price
{quote} Yup. No arguments with you. I do not disagree with any of your viewpoints. I do not believe you are wrong about anything. Just one simple issue.>>>>>> "Your writing style. It seems very aggressive and unfriendly" Do as you wish, but sometimes when people talk a lot, it forces other people to listen.(not literally "forces") It can consume other people's time and thoughts. May be no concern of yours, idk. To make one's point with few, well thought out sentences, seems respectful. Have a good day.
ok, i accept what you say. but i really try to write as honest as possible. maybe you can show me some agressive and unfriendly post, so i can see if it was only a answer to some agressive unfriendly man or post. this would be more easy, because i cant remember one that was not without a reason.

when i write sometimes more words then maybe neccesary, its most because i dont have to use english a lot, so i write maybe often it more complicated then neccesary. i am since 12 years in a position, so i get always a translater on my side for the companies i work with from time to time and can so speak german only, so i dont invest so much time in english any more to improve. but ofcourse, this point i can accept and is 100% correct - thats not my best side in writing good english.
  • #1,476
  • Edited 11:31am Oct 11, 2017 11:09am | Edited 11:31am
Quoting dogdays713
{quote} the rest of us should just give it up right now, at least me I don't have all those things going for me. so I don't stand a chance.
Absolutely correct dogdays and here's why just to further CP's point:
Back when I was a fetus, before I had developed eyes, a cerebral cortex or any grey matter, my Father was shouting instructions through my Mother's belly on how to build a proton accelerator in my Mother's colon using only killer T cells, a snippet of pancreas, and just a touch of urea! And to top it off, I couldn't hear his instructions because I had no ears! But I got it all done, and before even having fingers!!!
And you want to trade!! Shame on you....
  • #1,477
  • Oct 11, 2017 11:12am Oct 11, 2017 11:12am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i really try to write as honest as possible. maybe you can show me ....., ....
well ok sir,,,,, that right there was a good start.

I have not spoken with you before. But, I see many of your posts. They are all very similar.

Some recurring examples that I remember are, "Wrong, noob, stupid wrong maths, extreme noob, can't learn, did not learn the basics, can not learn the math, etc."

So, here's the answer.
If you write a post that explains some of the things you have learned, maybe even explain the way you trade, I think people would respect that.

Because, if you only tell people they are wrong, and you do not explain what is right..... it seems unfriendly and not very helpful.

Peace
  • #1,478
  • Oct 11, 2017 11:17am Oct 11, 2017 11:17am
Quoting nealpek
{quote} Absolutely correct dogdays and here's why just to further CP's point: Back when I was a fetus, before I had developed eyes, a cerebral cortex or any grey matter, my Father was shouting instructions through my Mother's belly on how to build a proton accelerator in my Mother's colon using only killer T cells, a snippet of pancreas, and just a touch of urea! And I got it all done before having fingers!! And you want to trade!! Shame on you....
LOL
  • #1,479
  • Oct 11, 2017 11:18am Oct 11, 2017 11:18am
Quoting Price
{quote} Yup. No arguments with you. I do not disagree with any of your viewpoints. I do not believe you are wrong about anything. Just one simple issue.>>>>>> "Your writing style. It seems very aggressive and unfriendly" Do as you wish, but sometimes when people talk a lot, it forces other people to listen.(not literally "forces") It can consume other people's time and thoughts. May be no concern of yours, idk. To make one's point with few, well thought out sentences, seems respectful. Have a good day.
I think it is because he is talking in a foreign language. But nonetheless, I think he is a honest person. Maybe a bit too passionate about calling out the fakers, but hey someone has to do the dirty work At least, I have never read a post of him telling that he doesnt give a sh*t about anyone on this forum, like a "specific" member did. And he never compared himself with Einstein, like a "specific" member did...
  • #1,480
  • Oct 11, 2017 11:25am Oct 11, 2017 11:25am
Quoting Price
{quote} well ok sir,,,,, that right there was a good start. I have not spoken with you before. But, I see many of your posts. They are all very similar. Some recurring examples that I remember are, "Wrong, noob, stupid wrong maths, extreme noob, can't learn, did not learn the basics, can not learn the math, etc." So, here's the answer. If you write a post that explains some of the things you have learned, maybe even explain the way you trade, I think people would respect that. Because, if you only tell people they are wrong, and you do not explain...
yes, you are correct, i used this words. but in all cases i used it to people who deserved it (at least i think so, but when i am not right i will say sorry) . thatswhy it would help me more when you can tell me the link (thread name) and post number, so i could see why i did wrote this.

i will not say i am the most nice man , but someone needs to start something or did something extrem, that i write something is this kind.

i have explained a lot of things already, in many posts. and i dont teach how to trade my style, even as consultant i teach only how to find system to trade and how to develop or how to handle all types of risks , or what ever questions they want to be solved.... in forum there is often the problem, what you dont have with institutional clients: you dont know at what level the people are. at different level people need to learn different things, some attacked me because they could not even understand what i wrote and thought its wrong... and teaching all the time again the basics its boring. i really answer to each honest question, even to people who are agressive all the time and on the end again and again attack me and only hide some questions in their text to start reattacking without any reasons again....... but even this extrem people i anwer honest until they get get crazy and start writing complete extrem agressiv. many people cant see objective and only see what they know and judge hard without thinking to both sides.

and by telling whats wrong, i normally tell whats right. but sometimes there is so wrong, that it easy to see opposite site is correct, then i dont tell it ofcourse, because already to see because of the context.
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