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  • #2,661
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:48am Oct 6, 2017 1:48am
Quoting kenshin
{quote}That's terrible. I thought they had the opportunity to withdraw after the first drawdown recovery but before the second drawdown and account destruction. I don't know how many would have got out after the first recovery though, judging by those comments of praise after the first drawdown recovery. AccentForex need to start showing verifiable LP receipts for the trades concerned to prove they all went to market.
Many had made withdrawal requests but too late to be. The trap has ended.

What is LP stands for?
  • #2,662
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:49am Oct 6, 2017 1:49am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} Many had made withdrawal requests but too late to be. The trap has ended. What is LP stands for?
Sorry. Liquidity Provider.
http://thefxview.com/2013/10/31/what...dity-provider/
  • #2,663
  • Oct 6, 2017 2:22am Oct 6, 2017 2:22am
Ok , the AccentForex affair is getting complicated. Over $ 2 million is really a huge loss. Maybe we should open a specific thread .

What makes me perplexed , however, is the silence of the cheated investors : in these last days , here on FF , there would be hundreds of posts by the poor Jordan's customers ...
They should shout their anger and provide their explanation of these serious facts.
Instead, they simply write on AccentForex website.
This issue affects all ( traders , investors , brokers , Pamm managers , Financial Autorities , Regulators , etc ) and moreover the events that have occurred are too serious to remain secrets , all this must be made public on a international Forum , like ForexFactory.
  • #2,664
  • Edited 4:02am Oct 6, 2017 3:45am | Edited 4:02am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} only in short: there are two ways: 1. the broker is faking all this, have stuff to create the pamm and cheat all trades to create a good history of the trades. then after many people invest in the pamm, it will only just as emulated trades with wins or second way you do opposite trade as market maker and create the account to lose all and dont allow that their people withdraw money fast, so many lose and you win. 2. pamm manager is seperate and looking for a half legal marketmaker , makes a contract with him that losses of his clients will...

Look at below link - such matters are not new:

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=602440

In my opinion, no MAMM/PAMM should be allowed to be set-up through un-regulated brokers and anyone wishing to set-up a Mamm/Pamm, needs to be officially registered with their real name and address and business name which is available for all potential subscribers to see.

Just wondering in any subscribers were from the USA? If so, maybe they can get together and file a complaint with the FBI or something? Would certainly open up the issue on a global scale which may help bring a few scammers to justice.
  • #2,665
  • Oct 6, 2017 3:51am Oct 6, 2017 3:51am
Quoting redoktober
Ok , the AccentForex affair is getting complicated. Over $ 2 million is really a huge loss. Maybe we should open a specific thread . What makes me perplexed , however, is the silence of the cheated investors : in these last days , here on FF , there would be hundreds of posts by the poor Jordan's customers ... They should shout their anger and provide their explanation of these serious facts. Instead, they simply write on AccentForex website. This issue affects all ( traders , investors , brokers , Pamm managers , Financial Autorities , Regulators...
Yes, I agree with you. But is it right because of any loss people should run and look for the guilty? Everyone is lying we as traders, not always trust brokers and do the right thing. Because most of the brokers are looking for a way to deceive us and there are a lot of them. Only fools are looking for the guilty because of any nonsense. Every time I see a merged account in Alpari and other brokers, everyone blames them for problem the traders done. All brokers are deceiving and this is a fact, but if we all do not trust anyone of them, then what is the point in our trader's existence at all?
  • #2,666
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:10am Oct 6, 2017 4:10am
Quoting redoktober
An image is worth 1000 words : {image} In effect, all this it's very impressive...
Again television with cut out parts, would you still cut out the cuts. Where are the other deals? I went into their PAMM saw the transaction and with normal pluses. And then I see a large volume and I see that he tried to get out of the situation that he himself created. And any movement of 100 points can bury the trade in such volumes.
  • #2,667
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:15am Oct 6, 2017 4:15am
Quoting redoktober
Ok , the AccentForex affair is getting complicated. Over $ 2 million is really a huge loss. Maybe we should open a specific thread . What makes me perplexed , however, is the silence of the cheated investors : in these last days , here on FF , there would be hundreds of posts by the poor Jordan's customers ... They should shout their anger and provide their explanation of these serious facts. Instead, they simply write on AccentForex website. This issue affects all ( traders , investors , brokers , Pamm managers , Financial Autorities , Regulators...
Which section should be posted for this incident to let everyone awares on?
  • #2,668
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:15am Oct 6, 2017 4:15am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Sorry. Liquidity Provider. http://thefxview.com/2013/10/31/what...dity-provider/
I saw scamdetect has requested such from accentforex.
  • #2,669
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:20am Oct 6, 2017 4:20am
Quoting Gydvin
{quote} But is it right because of any loss people should run and look for the guilty?
Yes, but not any loss. When that loss is 99% of a 2 million dollar account in just 4 days, then it looks highly suspicious.
  • #2,670
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:23am Oct 6, 2017 4:23am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Yes, but not any loss. When that loss is 99% of a 2 million dollar account in just 4 days, then it looks highly suspicious.
It seems that accentforex blocked any messages in Jordan wall to prevent investors to know about this thread and FPA.
  • #2,671
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:29am Oct 6, 2017 4:29am
From AccentForex's chat , here is some investors's screams of pain about Pamm-trader Jordan :


"Zsolt3.10.17, 9:49
Margin call, "FY" Jordan, you are irresponsible person, you own my money, give me back from your personal valet immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hock3.10.17, 21:48
Wonder why so many stupidity found here.

swift093.10.17, 16:11
@jordan we don't need your sorry. We want our money. You already earned lot of money , then deposit 1 million and start trading again and in one month we are on track. If you do such thing you gain our respect again.

nollej3.10.17, 13:48
What a joke... this trading and decision to hold funds this week was unbelievably selfish by Jordan. And now look where we all are...

jivan3.10.17, 19:44
Dear Jordan, you will have to pay a very bad karma for your behaviour because, as others said, someone (like me) asked not to trade again and to withdraw the money, so you have stole our money and not lost them in forex.

Fred3.10.17, 19:09
I got an important experience. Never invest money you rely on, this is a bad experience but it is the most valuable. Now there's 77.83 on my account. Pity. The next time, when I invest, I ll leave some reserve. It's too late to cry .

swift093.10.17, 17:12
@jordan please reply on email !

Saiful3.10.17, 16:20
I have no sympathy for you Jordan. You should walk away before you opened 2 positions. You should give chance for those who want to quit but you too arrogant and placed 2 GBP with large amount. You don't respected them. I am understand the risk of forex but losses with stupidity is insane.

nollej3.10.17, 16:25
Sorry Jordan but your apology to me means nothing. Multiple people here asked you to stop trading and stay within the stipulated risks, however you continued to go against that. You LIED and misused our trust. And don't try and make excuses that you couldn't close the trades earlier with a more reasonable loss. You could have. Having a "deep DD in red".. LOL, what is 99.12% drawdown, ***censored. Instead of being reasonable and responsible and accepting the market wasn't doing what you thought it was, you continued to burn through the money. It is really sad that you now try and make excuses instead of just saying you ***censored, you were scared, and you LIED to us, your investors. I am curious what your way out of this situation is ?

Jesus Nunez3.10.17, 15:25
Many thanks Jordan for losing all my money. Thank you !!!!!

bwin3.10.17, 9:27
I cannot fathom blowing up entire account over the weekend. Oh my god ! "

etc...
  • #2,672
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:31am Oct 6, 2017 4:31am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} It seems that accentforex blocked any messages in Jordan wall to prevent investors to know about this thread and FPA.
Searching Google for "forex forum" turns up Forex Factory and BabyPips as the first two results.

As redoktober said it's strange that there aren't investors posting here. They're smart enough to sign up for a PAMM, but can't find either FF or BP forums to vent on??? It doesn't make sense really

Searching for "accentforex scam" does turn up the ForexPeaceArmy thread as second result though, so that's one good sign.
  • #2,673
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:49am Oct 6, 2017 4:49am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Searching Google for "forex forum" turns up Forex Factory and BabyPips as the first two results. As redoktober said it's strange that there aren't investors posting here. They're smart enough to sign up for a PAMM, but can't find either FF or BP forums to vent on??? It doesn't make sense really Searching for "accentforex scam" does turn up the ForexPeaceArmy thread as second result though, so that's one good sign.
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/commun...-8#post-296205

Gürkan Akbari is suspected to be insider of accentforex who came in and defend.
  • #2,674
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:52am Oct 6, 2017 4:52am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} As redoktober said it's strange that there aren't investors posting here.
They will cry for a while, then take some money which is left, ask grandma, eat the cheapest shit or make a credit... and give it to the next scammer who promises them money and wealth...

I come from a HYIP Community (High Yield Investment Profit.. much worse than PAMM or anything else you find here). Yes I was also young and stupid (13 years ago) .
After a while i checked that these are only scams cheating and stealing the people. I tried to help and warn them. Sometimes I had long fights with blinded and arrogant investors. Result i got kicked out.
No brain + greed = you cannot do anything!

Some of them are still searching for the "secret pearl"
  • #2,675
  • Oct 6, 2017 4:56am Oct 6, 2017 4:56am
What is the cause of this "accident"?
If it was because of the wrong trading activity (position, money management ..etc), in my point of view it's not a scam..but it's the risk of forex trading (including investing on PAMM).

In this kind of business there is a quote " we could lose partial or all of our initial balance, right"?

Except..the pamm manager or the brokerage run out with investor's money.

Please CMIIW
Happy Trading
  • #2,676
  • Oct 6, 2017 5:00am Oct 6, 2017 5:00am
Quoting dpforex
What is the cause of this "accident"? If it was because of the wrong trading activity (position, money management ..etc), in my point of view it's not a scam..but it's the risk of forex trading (including investing on PAMM). In this kind of business there is a quote " we could lose partial or all of our initial balance, right"? Except..the pamm manager or the brokerage run out with investor's money. Please CMIIW
well, i copied from redoktober's previous post

Well , a short and clear summary by Scamdetector :

" PAMM manager Jordan ( AccentForex broker ) made more than $2millions loss from 3 GBP/USD trades.
As the results, investors are unhappy because the manager did not stick to the rule of stop loss and 10% risk per trade.

Jordan placed the trades on Friday (29/9) and there were floating loss which he intended not to close at loss to meet trading session ends.

He made request from broker to extend the trading session to another week (i.e. till 6/10/2017) and broker accepted his request.

Because of this extension, withdrawals made for that trading session were not able to process and continued to the trading session.

The day before yesterday (3/10/2017), the account was on margin call and more than $2millions funds were loss.

Investors suffered more than 95% loss in funds.
  • #2,677
  • Oct 6, 2017 5:21am Oct 6, 2017 5:21am
Quoting ricki72
{quote} They will cry for a while, then take some money which is left, ask grandma, eat the cheapest shit or make a credit... and give it to the next scammer who promises them money and wealth... I come from a HYIP Community (High Yield Investment Profit.. much worse than PAMM or anything else you find here). Yes I was also young and stupid (13 years ago) . After a while i checked that these are only scams cheating and stealing the people. I tried to help and warn them. Sometimes I had long fights with blinded and arrogant investors. Result...
Some people just can't be helped and never learn.

I constantly wonder whether it's worth wasting time trying to draw attention to these scams. I try to think that we are helping good people, but really, the same people we're trying to help are so obsessed with greed that they would probably steal your last dollar if they could. I mean, that obsession over larger returns is why they're falling for these type of scams anyway. Isn't it? Why help greedy people? Don't they really deserve whats coming to them anyway? From what I've seen, most of the time the "greedy" trait and the "asshole" trait are closely associated.
  • #2,678
  • Oct 6, 2017 5:22am Oct 6, 2017 5:22am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} when did i say all? we spoke about this special broker, other marketmaker broker have this too maybe, but ofcourse never ever all. and the 50-50 offer you get more when you have many money in, i dont think any of this fake broker is interested before. but this mnoney managers are often broker connected, or all faked from beginning, not only history. when you would like to trade by yourself, then learn trading step by step. if you dont want, then look for investors you can trust, most have many millions own capital, if not they are not sucessfull...
Dukas I agree with you. You speak very clever things. I just do not understand why you got wounded because of this fxstaton. Dont you see that he repeats your words like a parrot? But by himself does not know anything. Dont you see that it's like black PR? He does not give any real evidence, but just talks. He's
windbag. I do not see the point of communicating with people like him. You probably know, about the fact that all brokers fabricate comments that would show other brokers in a bad light. And people like him work in that way. Fill up posts at another's expense without imagining anything from themselves.These are also the bad people you talked about earlier. And thank you very much for the useful information you have expanded my view of things. And many thanks for your advice.
  • #2,679
  • Oct 6, 2017 5:51am Oct 6, 2017 5:51am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} well, i copied from redoktober's previous post Well , a short and clear summary by Scamdetector : " PAMM manager Jordan ( AccentForex broker ) made more than $2millions loss from 3 GBP/USD trades. As the results, investors are unhappy because the manager did not stick to the rule of stop loss and 10% risk per trade. Jordan placed the trades on Friday (29/9) and there were floating loss which he intended not to close at loss to meet trading session ends. He made request from broker to extend the trading session to another week (i.e. till...
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So? Investors taking risk similar to HYIP investments. They know the impending risk associated with. These brokers already SCUM and why again list them as SCAM !
  • #2,680
  • Oct 6, 2017 6:05am Oct 6, 2017 6:05am
Quoting Gydvin
{quote} Dukas I agree with you. You speak very clever things. I just do not understand why you got wounded because of this fxstaton. Dont you see that he repeats your words like a parrot? But by himself does not know anything. Dont you see that it's like black PR? He does not give any real evidence, but just talks. He's windbag. I do not see the point of communicating with people like him. You probably know, about the fact that all brokers fabricate comments that would show other brokers in a bad light. And people like him work in that way. Fill...
You must be unhappy about me when I critised you when you posted this

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It's certainly all great, but I did not see any proof that this broker is sсam. Or we differently understand what a scam is. Tell me, what in your understanding is a scam? Whether I am a scam when I trade on news or create EA to deceive MT4. Is the broker a scam who did not withdraw my money when the CHF fall in January 2015(i will not name the broker or broker dogs will come here). Guys, personally I merged in the past 4 investors accounts under zero in different brokers. All of us can merged because world of the Forex is cruel. And I do...

Your post is clearly shown that you are same as those persons that Dukas mentioned. Wake up and see it again.
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