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  • #2,641
  • Edited 1:11pm Oct 5, 2017 12:55pm | Edited 1:11pm
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} yes, i can see there are two here can't see it.
looks like Jordan was here in forexfactory with name Salvatored.
i remember him and marked him as fake already (many other did this too) many many time ago, because it was so easy to see he was so much faking trades and history.

funny people fall in fakers, who are bespoken as fake and all shown already. many people are stupid because of their unexpierence or greed, at least after warned they deserve the loss. even forexfactory checked his acount was fake history and changed his live account to demoaccount at least.
  • #2,642
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:11pm Oct 5, 2017 1:11pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} looks like Jordan was here in forexfactory with name Salvatored. i remember him and marked him as fake already (many other did this too) many many time ago, because it was so easy to see he was so much faking trades and history. funny people fall in fakers, who are bespoken as fake and all shown already. many people are stupid because of their unexpierence, at least after warned they deserve the loss. even forexfactory checked his acount was fake history and changed his live account to demoaccount at least.
How could you see him faking the trades and history??? Also, how forexfactory is able to identify such and changed his account from live to demo.

As what I can read from the chat in his pamm's wall, his MT4 account is restricted to access / view when he was in trading. It was accessible only during non-trading time.

This gives the opportunity to the broker to create trades or manipulate the trades. I wonder if FF explorer is able to detect this and thus marked his account to demo?
  • #2,643
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:14pm Oct 5, 2017 1:14pm
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} How could you see him faking the trades and history??? Also, how forexfactory is able to identify such and changed his account from live to demo. As what I can read from the chat in his pamm's wall, his MT4 account is restricted to access / view when he was in trading. It was accessible only during non-trading time. This gives the opportunity to the broker to create trades or manipulate the trades. I wonder if FF explorer is able to detect this and thus marked his account to demo?
forexfactory changed it because many mentioned his fakes (dont remember exactly what happened), you can see by what he wrotes, what he trades and how trades a listed (like you told by yourself) that he is simple a faker to cheat people. i see this type of people since 20 years, no difficult to see what they do and why. at least he was extrem easy to see, but his explorer dissapeared and i cant remember all, really very long time ago. but i remember he was big fake and listed by many. but like normal the typical followers was there to defend this faker, because they cant accept they are misleaded by such a person. same you see with anyone i marked a fake, but some fakes are extrem little little against this. he earns 1 million and broker 1 million, or broker all when he was directly from broker. looks like broker waits until there are more then 2 million in pamm an then start to kill account for fast million win. how much was the loss by the fraud before?
  • #2,644
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:21pm Oct 5, 2017 1:21pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} forexfactory chnaged it because many mentioned his fakes, you can see by what you wrotes, whathe trades and how trades a listed (like you told by yourself) that he is simple a faker to cheat people. i see this type of people since 20 years, no difficult to see what they do and why. at least he was extrem easy to see, but his explorer dissapeared and i cant remember all, really very long time ago. but i remember he was big fake and listed by many. but like normal the typical followers was there to defend this faker, because they cant accept...
I learned a lot from you. TQ

Too bad that the investors are now moving to George, the top 2 pamm manager there.
  • #2,645
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:26pm Oct 5, 2017 1:26pm
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} I learned a lot from you. TQ Too bad that the investors are now moving to George, the top 2 pamm manager there.
no sorry for this people, when people are to stupid they deserve their future. they dont learn.

you can warn people, and smart people or people who now to think objective or know how to learn will react to it and think about. more you cant do, you accpt same time that you are hated by the stupid followers, i could tell you storys from here and about real live, about what type of follower people exist, never ever seen only one of this people not wrong, but thats their problem, looks like not learning or understanding the basics makes all this people same low level and they cant accept they are this low , and accepting they are low and need to learn more and start thios learning is most important. dont recognicing the truth is such a bad character type, many have this who trade and they even dont know. you see it from outside and think always "holy shit , in a bank this man would be kicked out in 1 week or would be brainwashed/cleaned from stupid thinking/character types to a level he can start thinking in reality" (but many cant be helped, so kicking out only possible way in trading departments, or out in in other departments where they are not problem for a trading part).
  • #2,646
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:27pm Oct 5, 2017 1:27pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} no sorry for this people, when people are to stupid they deserve their future. you can warn people, and smart people or people who now to think objective or know how to learn will react to it and think about. more you cant do, you accpt same time that you are hated by the stupid followers, i could tell you storys from here and about real live, about what type of follower people exist, never ever seen only one of this people not wrong, but thats their problem, looks not learning the basics makes all this people same level.
What comes into mind that if something we have realised but cant stop it to be happened, it is extremely upset.
  • #2,647
  • Edited 1:51pm Oct 5, 2017 1:34pm | Edited 1:51pm
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} What comes into mind that if something we have realised but cant stop it to be happened, it is extremely upset.
impossible to stop, how you would. you can write super smart with best arguments, you will get 100 times people who will not write to your arguments because they cant say anything to this, they send picture/videos and stupid comments,..... if you see this, you always know this are losers in live and trading, at least easy to judge this type of people here, but they are so annoying, you cant help so others. you can say what you have to say, so the smart start thinking about, more impossible, the 90% stupid people here will kill your comments with stupid answers all the time. and the red flaged of this stupid kind are the most annoying, they think they are good even when you see they are beginners in trading at best and know only very low basics , when people start the sentence with " think about the box " start running, then this people did not learn anything, trading is so easy with standard rules, making all complicated is only possible if you are very unexpierenced and did not find your way..... was a little bit offtopic, but when you will start to help others, you will exactly meet this type of people, and you have to live with this crowd. you will learn fast who is to stupid to learn or talks bullshit, and who is at a level he can reach all he want. i habe also seen here people, who write a mistake, and when you tell them they correct it and tell it better or they have arguments why its was correct. this people are best of best, they can reach all, but from this is maybe 1-5% if you are lucky to find here. thats the people who are really worth it to communicate with.
  • #2,648
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:38pm Oct 5, 2017 1:38pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} impossible to stop, how you would. you can write super smart with best arguments, you will get 100 times people who will not write to your arguments because they cant say anything to this, they send picture/videos and stupid comments,..... if you see this, you always know this are losers in live and trading, at least easy to judge this type of people here, but they are so annoying, you cant help so others. you can say what you have to say, so the smart start thinking about, more impossible, the 90% stupid people here will kill your comments...


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  • #2,649
  • Oct 5, 2017 2:01pm Oct 5, 2017 2:01pm
@FxStation,

a collegue of mine, coming from Turkey, said in his country they have a spoke:
"Thank god, there are so many stupid people in that world!
... else there wouldn´t be any rich!"

100% agree with dukas trader
  • #2,650
  • Oct 5, 2017 2:12pm Oct 5, 2017 2:12pm
Quoting ricki72
@FxStation, a collegue of mine, coming from Turkey, said in his country they have a spoke: "Thank god, there are so many stupid people in that world! ... else there wouldn´t be any rich!" 100% agree with dukas trader
but the richer goes to scammer?
  • #2,651
  • Edited 2:51pm Oct 5, 2017 2:26pm | Edited 2:51pm
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} but the richer goes to scammer?
not really. most are the people who dont have much and even take last cents to invest in this or even take a credit, or in some cases people with medium investment.
there was only 2 million in this pamm, smaller then most godd traders own capital. i dont know how many people was in, but when i was 200 maybe, it would be 10000 for each, so very small values. thats most values people start with trading.
the more rich people are often not this stupid to invest in such bullshit, they are not very smart all the time, but at least they know rule number one in business and investing: when something is to good to be true, it is not not true most of the time or has extrem risks same time. this was in general, there are many exceptions ofcourse.

most take what they saved because they get greedy, then can win here 500% in one year or many thousand percent (like you read from some faker in forexfactory too) and people think about how less in comparison they have, then they think they are to bad against other and hold other for much better and start investing, because they dont think that maybe its a fake, they only see what was the win (faked or real) and already think about how they will spend the wins.

starting comparing with others is the starting to killing your future and happiness, in life and investing. because you never see how lucky other are, only what they show you or fake for you. same with trading, you never see how good someone trades his money - only what they show you or fake for you.
  • #2,652
  • Oct 5, 2017 4:02pm Oct 5, 2017 4:02pm
Quoting aider
{quote} Just 4 trading days on this account. Keep patience and observe.. {image}

Oh yes , after 8 trading days I am observing :
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  • #2,653
  • Oct 6, 2017 12:21am Oct 6, 2017 12:21am
Quoting redoktober
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In effect, all this it's very impressive...
Anyone looking at GBP/USD should be selling due to the 2 weeks of prior down trend. Instead, this idiot places three buy trades against that established downtrend. In addition, due to the excessive position sizing of them three trades, the account was trashed within 200 pips of movement. That's just stupid. Even if a retard did place buy trades, decent risk management should limit a 200 pips drawdown to somewhere between 10% and 20% loss, not the entire account.
  • #2,654
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:03am Oct 6, 2017 1:03am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} Anyone looking at GBP/USD should be selling due to the 2 weeks of prior down trend. Instead, this idiot places three buy trades against that established downtrend. In addition, due to the excessive position sizing of them three trades, the account was trashed within 200 pips of movement. That's just stupid. Even if a retard did place buy trades, decent risk management should limit a 200 pips drawdown to somewhere between 10% and 20% loss, not the entire account. {image}
that were traded in purpose to burn out all the funds
  • #2,655
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:05am Oct 6, 2017 1:05am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} that were traded in purpose to burn out all the funds
Bingo. It can't be anything other than that.
When the going gets tough , the tough get going
  • #2,656
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:10am Oct 6, 2017 1:10am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} that were traded in purpose to burn out all the funds
Quoting Stubborn
{quote} Bingo. It can't be anything other than that.
Agreed. It's too obvious. Anyone who is really trading a large account would never do that.
  • #2,657
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:18am Oct 6, 2017 1:18am
Quoting kenshin
{quote} {quote} Agreed. It's too obvious. Anyone who is really trading a large account would never do that.
It is the time for them to quit and burn out all the profits. Otherwise, they will suffer losses.


If you have chance to read the chat box in his PAMM, he firstly made huge losses and then recovered. Everyone afraid and panic. When he got recovered, everyone praised him. He then made them falls from sky to earth. hehehehehehhe
  • #2,658
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:30am Oct 6, 2017 1:30am
Yeah. I saw that. A bit like a roller coaster really. It would have been way too much excitement for me. Surely that first loss/recovery must have been a huge red flag for the investors. I guess the greed kicks in and they turn a blind eye to the risk.

As a comparison, over them same 4 trading days where he roasted over 99% of the account, I have made a lowly 0.476% return. Yippeee!!!
  • #2,659
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:33am Oct 6, 2017 1:33am
Quoting kenshin
Yeah. I saw that. A bit like a roller coaster really. It would have been way too much excitement for me. Surely that first loss/recovery must have been a huge red flag for the investors. I guess the greed kicks in and they turn a blind eye to the risk. As a comparison, over them same 4 trading days where he roasted over 99% of the account, I have made a lowly 0.476% return. Yippeee!!!
Such red flag is pointless as he extended the trading period to further 1 week which restricted all deposits and withdrawals from investors. That is common practices.

That is why the scamdetector asked the explanation from broker why they exercised such right to approve the extension without the concern from all parties which was stated in the agreement.

If you read scamdetector's recent reply, he has pointed very good questions in counterback the broker.
  • #2,660
  • Oct 6, 2017 1:39am Oct 6, 2017 1:39am
Quoting fxstaton
{quote} Such red flag is pointless as he extended the trading period to further 1 week which restricted all deposits and withdrawals from investors. That is common practices. That is why the scamdetector to find the facts and prove so.
That's terrible. I thought they had the opportunity to withdraw after the first drawdown recovery but before the second drawdown and account destruction. I don't know how many would have got out after the first recovery though, judging by those comments of praise after the first drawdown recovery.

AccentForex need to start showing verifiable LP receipts for the trades concerned to prove they all went to market.
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