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  • #181
  • Oct 2, 2017 8:08pm Oct 2, 2017 8:08pm
Quoting mladen
{quote} Why changing the IMA() call? Call to IMA() is by far the fastest way to get the price if the basic set of prices is to be used (test it, and you shall see)
original code;
valuesc[i] = iMA(NULL,0,1,0,MODE_SMA,Pricec,i);
followed by (equivalent)
worksTemp[k] = ( valuesc[k] - valuesc[[j])/(j-k);
cannot be faster than (again, equivalent) the replacement:
worksTemp[k] = ( Close[k] - Close[j])/(j-k);

as the 'Close' array is maintained by the environment regardless.
and, I'm pretty sure
Close[i] == iMA(NULL,0,1,0,MODE_SMA,Pricec,i);
  • #182
  • Edited 4:29am Oct 3, 2017 2:52am | Edited 4:29am
Quoting lukeb
{quote} original code; valuesc[i] = iMA(NULL,0,1,0,MODE_SMA,Pricec,i); followed by (equivalent) worksTemp[k] = ( valuesc[k] - valuesc[[j])/(j-k); cannot be faster than (again, equivalent) the replacement: worksTemp[k] = ( Close[k] - Close[j])/(j-k); as the 'Close' array is maintained by the environment regardless. and, I'm pretty sure Close[i] == iMA(NULL,0,1,0,MODE_SMA,Pricec,i);
Please read my post(s) again ...

I am not talking about using fixed close price.
I am talking about using selectable price.

Please do not compare what can not be compared at all - that is highly misleading and serves no purpose. Your code can not be used in any case when the price to be used is out of the standard open,close, high and low and even in a case when you try to use some of the 4 types in a sort of "choice" type, you shall have to have a switch case at the least and it will fail miserably in speed compared to a simple iMA() call then. All that has nothing to do with coding skills or knowledge, but it has all to do with the speed of execution of MQL P-code and native code that iMA() is built with, but please do your own tests.

All the best
  • #183
  • Oct 3, 2017 8:11am Oct 3, 2017 8:11am
Quoting mladen
{quote} Please read my post(s) again ... I am not talking about using fixed close price. I am talking about using selectable price.
I'm afraid I'm not understanding what you are saying. The average of a single data point has the same value as the data point, so what is the value in maintaining three separate indicator buffers duplicating the values automatically maintained in the high, low, and close buffers? I cannot get rid of the system overhead to maintain these buffers by not using them.... What makes it 'selectable'?
  • #184
  • Oct 3, 2017 8:27am Oct 3, 2017 8:27am
Quoting lukeb
{quote} I'm afraid I'm not understanding what you are saying. The average of a single data point has the same value as the data point, so what is the value in maintaining three separate indicator buffers duplicating the values automatically maintained in the high, low, and close buffers? I cannot get rid of the system overhead to maintain these buffers by not using them.... What makes it 'selectable'?
Would you mind explaining to all of us what would your fast version of code do when a required price would be median, typical or weighted? Or if we added one simple parameter in which we would expect an ENUM_APPLIED_PRICE type of choice and then that price should have been used for calculation?
In any case I am concluding my participation in this stream of posts - no use for anybody anymore trying to explain the obvious

all the best
  • #185
  • Oct 4, 2017 10:15am Oct 4, 2017 10:15am
Hi mladen,
I have to ask you this too:

Do you know about the "better momentum" indi, based on volume, not on price.
Please have a look at the pics I found. Explains it all. Thanks.

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and another pic, comparing traditional momentum and volume momentum.

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  • #186
  • Oct 4, 2017 11:57am Oct 4, 2017 11:57am
Quoting wolf300
Hi mladen, I have to ask you this too: Do you know about the "better momentum" indi, based on volume, not on price. Please have a look at the pics I found. Explains it all. Thanks. {image} {image} and another pic, comparing traditional momentum and volume momentum. {image}
Did not see it yet
Will check and get back to you on this subject
  • #187
  • Oct 4, 2017 12:48pm Oct 4, 2017 12:48pm
Quoting mladen
{quote} Did not see it yet Will check and get back to you on this subject
That`s nice !!

Thanks a lot.

Never saw it before, but the way to calculate momentum based on volume and showing divergences, when volume dried out, is a highly interesting subject.
Maybe that way the mostly overseen fact that convergence (moving on in trend) can be shown and signaled too. Who knows.
  • #188
  • Oct 4, 2017 9:44pm Oct 4, 2017 9:44pm
Quoting wolf300
{quote} That`s nice !! Thanks a lot. Never saw it before, but the way to calculate momentum based on volume and showing divergences, when volume dried out, is a highly interesting subject. Maybe that way the mostly overseen fact that convergence (moving on in trend) can be shown and signaled too. Who knows.
i also seen some volume is very less from there onwards the stock started to new highs.... and when full volume the price is high and started to fallen... in stocks .... from india
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #189
  • Oct 5, 2017 11:37am Oct 5, 2017 11:37am
Quoting mladen
{quote} Did not see it yet Will check and get back to you on this subject
Hi Mladen,

I'd like to ask you one question regarding the PTL Indicator, If I want to get notified after the candle has closed, do I set the "Alert on current candle: to False?
  • #190
  • Oct 5, 2017 12:26pm Oct 5, 2017 12:26pm
Quoting liquidice
{quote} Hi Mladen, I'd like to ask you one question regarding the PTL Indicator, If I want to get notified after the candle has closed, do I set the "Alert on current candle: to False?
Yes
  • #191
  • Oct 5, 2017 1:36pm Oct 5, 2017 1:36pm
Quoting mladen
{quote} Yes
Very good skills on PTL Mladen ... Very good and kind as well ... thank you Mladen ... thumbs up!
  • #192
  • Oct 9, 2017 8:29pm Oct 9, 2017 8:29pm
Quoting mladen
{quote} Did not see it yet Will check and get back to you on this subject
Did you find something about "better momentum" based on Volume, mladen ?
  • #193
  • Oct 10, 2017 3:12am Oct 10, 2017 3:12am
Quoting wolf300
{quote} Did you find something about "better momentum" based on Volume, mladen ?
wolf300

Seems that it is based on "up tick" and "down tick" volumes. Since we do not have those on mt seems that it can not be done. We could attempt to "reconstruct" them using close as criteria, but in that case you shall get what VSA and similar indicators already do
  • #194
  • Oct 10, 2017 7:04am Oct 10, 2017 7:04am
Quoting mladen
{quote} wolf300 Seems that it is based on "up tick" and "down tick" volumes. Since we do not have those on mt seems that it can not be done. We could attempt to "reconstruct" them using close as criteria, but in that case you shall get what VSA and similar indicators already do
Ah, I was hoping we could get a kind of "Volume Oscillator" where orders oscillating around 0 (like the tradestation indi in the pic) to be able to see when volume dries out and the trend is about to turn, shown by divergence.
But if we don`t have the data feed such a thing can`t be build.

But thanks for having a closer look.
  • #195
  • Oct 14, 2017 8:44am Oct 14, 2017 8:44am
Was testing "half trend" indicator, and it seems that most of the versions that are out there, even though they claim the opposite, can repaint
Since that is not a bad indicator, here is a version that really can not repaint

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Usual set of display types and alerts included
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  • #196
  • Oct 14, 2017 9:23am Oct 14, 2017 9:23am
like that where signal changes there if price tag comes means so helpful.. any way i cant able to use for my automate trade with this
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Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #197
  • Edited 10:09am Oct 14, 2017 9:45am | Edited 10:09am
Hello mladen,

could you please make your indi which is already mtf working interpolated in mtf mode and/or make this version of tsi (without signal line) work mtf interpolated ?

That would be great, because tsi is a helpful indi.

Thanks.

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File Type: mq4 Blau - tsi mtf 2.mq4   4 KB | 453 downloads


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File Type: mq4 TSI.mq4   3 KB | 415 downloads


Everybody who`s interested, try settings 7 and 4. Good for divs and trendline-trading in subwindow !! (TSI.mq4) Settings 7, 4, signal 3 for Blau-tsi.
  • #198
  • Oct 14, 2017 10:29am Oct 14, 2017 10:29am
Quoting mladen
Was testing "half trend" indicator, and it seems that most of the versions that are out there, even though they claim the opposite, can repaint Since that is not a bad indicator, here is a version that really can not repaint {image} Usual set of display types and alerts included {file}
awesomeness if it doesn't repaint,because I liked this indi but since it repaints I chopped it out from my system,let me try again,thanks you are awesome.
  • #199
  • Oct 14, 2017 2:19pm Oct 14, 2017 2:19pm
Quoting wolf300
Hi mladen, I have to ask you this too: Do you know about the "better momentum" indi, based on volume, not on price. Please have a look at the pics I found. Explains it all. Thanks. {image} {image} and another pic, comparing traditional momentum and volume momentum. {image}
it would be fair from you to mention the source of pictures and indi " Better Momentum": emini-watch.com

Quoting mladen
{quote} wolf300 Seems that it is based on "up tick" and "down tick" volumes. Since we do not have those on mt seems that it can not be done. We could attempt to "reconstruct" them using close as criteria, but in that case you shall get what VSA and similar indicators already do

mladen, original trader/programmer is Barry Taylor who originally created Better Volume indicator for tradestation(ticks) and posted code for free on his website (many years ago). Trader/programmer thatwasme converted that code into MQL4 and we got Better Volume 1.4 indicator for MT4(the best known volume indicator). Same is for Better momentum indicator just there is no free code posted by Berry since he is selling that and some other indicators.
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  • #200
  • Oct 14, 2017 3:32pm Oct 14, 2017 3:32pm
Quoting Trader-Waldo
{quote} it would be fair from you to mention the source of pictures and indi " Better Momentum": emini-watch.com {quote} mladen, original trader/programmer is Barry Taylor who originally created Better Volume indicator for tradestation(ticks) and posted code for free on his website (many years ago). Trader/programmer thatwasme converted that code into MQL4 and we got Better Volume 1.4 indicator for MT4(the best known...
Was not aware of that mq4 version, but, as I assumed, it had to use close to "reconstruct" up and down ticks. But I also must give credit to thatwasme since it seems that his work was the basis for all later "vsa" indicators
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