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  • #681
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:25pm Sep 28, 2017 4:25pm
Quoting Copernicus
{quote} Hi S. Long time no hear :-). All good mate....and still slowly getting into the groove of what you and I used to talk about......they were very enjoyable discussions
Yep, always ready to enjoy new discussions
  • #682
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:27pm Sep 28, 2017 4:27pm
Quoting Chake
{quote} Best guess: you are talking about fractals?
you won this time, but there is much more thou.
  • #683
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:37pm Sep 28, 2017 4:37pm
Here is a quote from Giordano Bruno, one of the brightest mind in the world since ever who lived arond 1600; it is about Universe but it is incredibly amazing to notice that it appears to be written about market, isn't it? Food for thoughts!



"There is no top or bottom, no absolute positioning in space.
There are only positions that are relative to the others.
There is an incessant change in the relative positions throughout the universe
and the observer is always at the centre.”

Giordano Bruno
  • #684
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:44pm Sep 28, 2017 4:44pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are joking or? exactly your sentence i copied 1:1 ,so whats your problem? sometimes you are really crazy, and dont check the world around you. fake less and its more easy for you to start winning in trading, and you dont have to fake so much after this.
d_t, this one is for you:
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  • #685
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:49pm Sep 28, 2017 4:49pm
Quoting medici
{quote} d_t, this one is for you: {image}
i dont confront an idea. by the way what idea? all he writes is absolute basic stuff for beginners to learn basics like in any other website.
then ofcourse you need to always help him with his mistakes or what you learn is bullshit on the end.

i can tell you this crucialpoint is a simple faker often. thats all. i dont speak about his ideas.

but by the way: good ideas are for using by your own. you can teach other to find their good ideas, thats possible, rest is so stupid. i dont think this was a text from a trader ;-). but when you find a working good speech tell me.
  • #686
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:51pm Sep 28, 2017 4:51pm
Quoting havo
UNSUSCRIBED.. Sadly the original point is lost.. at least i met a couple guys who are willing to explore this idea away from this thread good luck everyone
are you going to open a new thread ?
  • #687
  • Sep 28, 2017 4:55pm Sep 28, 2017 4:55pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i dont confront an idea. by the way what idea? all he writes is absolute basic stuff for beginners to learn basics like in any other website. then ofcourse you need to always help him with his mistakes or what you learn is bullshit on the end. i can tell you this crucialpoint is a simple faker often. thats all. i dont speak about his ideas.
Oh, it's just that I've found you attacking seemingly successful traders over and over again, including myself, with no apparent aim of learning from your tirades.

Not being able to eke out a living from the markets is nothing to be ashamed of, but why attack those who do, fake or not?

Why not focus on learning the game, or move on in life, if you have one?
  • #688
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:00pm Sep 28, 2017 5:00pm
Quoting medici
{quote} Oh, it's just that I've found you attacking seemingly successful traders over and over again, including myself, with no apparent aim of learning from your tirades. Not being able to eke out a living from the markets is nothing to be ashamed of, but why attack those who do, fake or not? Why not focus on learning the game, or move on in life, if you have one?
sorry, i dont remember you, i attacked you because of what? what did you fake, what did you misleading that i attacked you?
or was i wrong by attacking you because of what?

funny thing, i am trading near all day, thats the funny part. by telling me i should focus on trading i can see you are very new in trading or at least at very low level with judging people. so not easy to know what to say to you, because i dont know you and dont remember you from any posts.

and i dont attack CP, he is simple a faker, what is extrem easy to see and possible to say. and you will tell me he is sucessfull trader, then you cant judge really good , really. or what sucessfull trader you speak about ? or about what topic you speak here?
  • #689
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:05pm Sep 28, 2017 5:05pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} sorry, i dont remember you, i attacked you because of what? what did you fake, what did you misleading that i attacked you? or was i wrong by attacking you because of what? funny thing, i am trading near all day, thats the funny part. by telling me i should focus on trading i can see you are very new in trading or at least at very low level with judging people. so not easy to know what to say to you, because i dont know you and dont remember you from any posts.
I didn't fake anything, or said anything misleading - I just gave a low estimate of what's possible to earn from day-trading based on my own records, And you came out in full force with sarcasm and animosity. And I'm grateful to Wachturm for telling you the obvious, that you should have understood in the first place.

And no, I'm not new to trading. I haven't done much else for the past fifteen years, in terms of income generation, but yet you had the audacity to be rude and lambasting without any evidence to your support at all.
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  • #690
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:10pm Sep 28, 2017 5:10pm
Quoting medici
{quote} I didn't fake anything, or said anything misleading - I just gave a low estimate of what's possible to earn from day-trading based on my own records, And you came out in full force with sarcasm and animosity. And I'm grateful to Wachturm for telling you the obvious, that you should have understood in the first place. And no, I'm not new to trading. I haven't done much else for the past fifteen years, in terms of income generation, but yet you had the audacity to be rude and lambasting without any evidence to your support at all. {image}
hm, then i have only 5 years more experience then you, and you are not this unknown normally. i cant remember anything i wrote with you, i dont see you very often in posts.

maybe i will recheck what you wrote and i wrote, to see if you are correct or i was. it was in what thread at what date?

you look and sound not very skilled, but maybe i am wrong and you cant talk very smart (and your sended picture is not helping much by looking smart, only loser do this). but lets see by rechecking.
but when i really attacked you, it sounds you was really bad in some trading and tried to fake something. what did you do, did you demo trade and did calculate it for big account? did you martingale oder arbitrage trading? did you trade with small account and compounded all to million accounts? what was the reason i told you you are wrong in your numbers? not so easy to tell from your own words.
  • #691
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:18pm Sep 28, 2017 5:18pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} hm, then i have only 5 years more experience then you, and you are not this unknown normally. i cant remember anything i wrote with you, i dont see you very often in posts. maybe i will recheck what you wrote and i wrote, to see if you are correct or i was. it was in what thread at what date? you look and sound not very skilled, but maybe i am wrong and you cant talk very smart (and your sended picture is not helping much by looking smart, only loser do this). but lets see by rechecking. but when i really attacked you, it sounds you was...
Aww, this is interesting. Could you possibly teach me something?

How about you start a thread with the aim of sharing the nuggets of trading wisdom, and I chip in if I have anything to add?
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  • #692
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:32pm Sep 28, 2017 5:32pm
The more you fight your enemy the more you will give him energy to use against yourself.
The best strategy is to ignore your enemy, he will die in his own shit.
All this animosity is becoming really bothering, how is that almost every thread in FF ends up with stupid battles between Egos???!!!!
  • #693
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:38pm Sep 28, 2017 5:38pm
Quoting strongtrader
The more you fight your enemy the more you will give him energy to use against yourself. The best strategy is to ignore your enemy, he will die in his own shit. All this animosity is becoming really bothering, how is that almost every thread in FF ends up with stupid battles between Egos???!!!!
why battle, its only discussion when you bring arguments, for people with picture, video and no arguments its battle. but this happens, not only educated people here, maybe thats why i "attacked this medici" because of a good reason (but cant remember him, vlooks long time ago when he told something scrazy), looks not like i was wrong when i see what funny things he is writing here.

i will see if he find what i did tell him, if not i take this as serios trolling from him. but looks really i could say something for him, he looks really like he is posting some crazy stuff sometimes.
  • #694
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:45pm Sep 28, 2017 5:45pm
Quoting medici
{quote} Aww, this is interesting. Could you possibly teach me something? How about you start a thread with the aim of sharing the nuggets of trading wisdom, and I chip in if I have anything to add? {image}
remember me, but you told me i teached you already and you told it was attack ;-).
it dont look you learned , so hmm, i dont think teaching you brings any affect as long you send picture so funny to show how less arguments you have, thats cp style often and you try to reapeat it.
  • #695
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:48pm Sep 28, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting strongtrader
The more you fight your enemy the more you will give him energy to use against yourself. The best strategy is to ignore your enemy, he will die in his own shit. All this animosity is becoming really bothering, how is that almost every thread in FF ends up with stupid battles between Egos???!!!!
It's a sad fact. And those who, with the best of intentions, try to teach something end up either adored or lambasted, but never listened to. While those who cannot make the game work for themselves end up attacking the apparently successful.

Online forums aren't of much use for the serious trader, other than as social outlet and entertainment. As a newbie you learn a bit, but you quickly realise that you have to learn from your own mistakes rather than from online forums, and from there it's just for play and entertainment.

Some play master, like CP, and some play servant, like d_t:

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Shakespeare, perhaps, put it best:
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  • #696
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:51pm Sep 28, 2017 5:51pm
Quoting medici
{quote} It's a sad fact. And those who, with the best of intentions, try to teach something end up either adored or lambasted, but never listened to. While those who cannot make the game work for themselves end up attacking the apparently successful. Online forums aren't of much use for the serious trader, other than as social outlet and entertainment. As a newbie you learn a bit, but you quickly realise that you have to learn from your own mistakes rather than from online forums, and from there it's just for play and entertainment. Some play master,...
baby, you are extrem same like cp, extrem. you post same shit pictures and movie kind style, write near same things, protect cp (but he is know as extrem faker).

lets say you this: when ever i attacked you (and i cant remeber and your word looks not much honest and worth by your style you present you here) it looks like you was faker and bad person, and was ok by doing so. you really look fishy.

and at least cp and you are both not sucessfull, that you show in best kind. why you do you this, why you present you here this bad style? for what? no arguments , why? only picture and video with nothing, why?

when you have arguments i will help you, without, sorry, you are not worth any time.
  • #697
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:53pm Sep 28, 2017 5:53pm
Discussion is a comparison between ideas coming from different minds, with the purpose to learn something new from each other; a creative discussion that can be afforded only with creative intelligence: this is what is needed to uncover the unknown, all the rest is shit.
Instead I'm reading a lot of craps whose only purpose is to feed fucking Egos.
I want to discuss with smart people if possible; if it is not I will move to more interesting fields.
  • #698
  • Sep 28, 2017 5:56pm Sep 28, 2017 5:56pm
Quoting strongtrader
Discussion is a comparison between ideas coming from different minds, with the purpose to learn something new from each other; a creative discussion that can be afforded only with creative intelligence: this is what is needed to uncover the unknown, all the rest is shit. Instead I'm reading a lot of craps whose only purpose is to feed fucking Egos. I want to discuss with smart people if possible; if it is not I will save my time to more interesting fields.

sorry, but i ask always for the arguments, when they cant bring some, nothing possible to do. medici , cp noone has only 1 argument, unbelievable small people.

but discuss, simple ask questions, what you need to learn, about what you will discuss. if you dont ask something, people cant answer you and discuss something.

i cant judge you, at what level in trading you are, because you did not tell me last time at what mobey level you are about, so difficult to give you hints for soem levels. all i know you are at the stage, keep it simple , whast normally with the under 1 mio accounts or no extrem shortterm trading adccounts.

but tell a topic you want to discuss and lets go.
  • #699
  • Sep 28, 2017 6:01pm Sep 28, 2017 6:01pm
Quoting strongtrader
Discussion is a comparison between ideas coming from different minds, with the purpose to learn something new from each other; a creative discussion that can be afforded only with creative intelligence: this is what is needed to uncover the unknown, all the rest is shit. Instead I'm reading a lot of craps whose only purpose is to feed fucking Egos. I want to discuss with smart people if possible; if it is not I will move to more interesting fields.
Agreed, but then, on public forums, people (including myself) are very reluctant to share the subtler secrets of their trading edge. So it ends up being somebody teaching in general terms, and others being appreciative students, or malevolent attackers, based on their chosen roles in the drama. Which invariably ends in disappointment for all.

For beginners to benefit and learn, the only thing that works is thorough mentoring. And for mature traders to have intelligent conversations, the wankers need to be weeded out. Neither is going to happen on a public forum.
  • #700
  • Sep 28, 2017 6:13pm Sep 28, 2017 6:13pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} sorry, but i ask always for the arguments, when they cant bring some, nothing possible to do. medici , cp noone has only 1 argument, unbelievable small people. but discuss, simple ask questions, what you need to learn, about what you will discuss. if you dont ask something, people cant answer you and discuss something. i cant judge you, at what level in trading you are, because you did not tell me last time at what mobey level you are about, so difficult to give you hints for soem levels. all i know you are at the stage, keep it simple ,...
C'mon man!! I have nothing to ask for, you cannot judge no one unless you believe to be a God.
Think to your level of trading, please. No real trader will ever talk about money, so won't I, it is not needed to understand with whom you are talking with.
Said that it is clear it is time to move somewhere else, please do not waste your time to reply because I use the ignoring strategy.

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