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  • #41
  • Sep 24, 2017 3:18pm Sep 24, 2017 3:18pm
Quoting Truth-
{quote} fish, fish, fish, fish, fish reference: Shawshank Redemption
what what what
  • #42
  • Sep 24, 2017 4:06pm Sep 24, 2017 4:06pm
Quoting aleksandarfx
{quote} first normal replay in whole thread.
Thank you alek, the way I look at it is this.

It has yet to be seen whether the thread starter is a scammer or not- and there is no way to find out until the thread starter is able to find the person he/she seeks. At that point the negotiations can begin, and it will be determined if the thread starter is a scammer.

Finding the person the thread starter is looking for is much harder than determining if he/she is a scammer. Just look at the number of posters in this thread with no Trade Explorer (Demo or Real)....and of the ones that do have one, how many can even check one box of the requirements?

As you said- mostly negativity for no reason.
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  • #43
  • Sep 24, 2017 4:28pm Sep 24, 2017 4:28pm
Negative perhaps because the self taught trader having spent years crafting their methodology needs to disclose their IP for a chance to trade a £50k on a 30% deal.

How many trading heroes in history have a track record of hitting over 5% pcm whilst keeping drawdown in check.

50 000 x 5%= 2500 x 30% = 750

That would not even cover my family food bill each month let alone utility costs, council tax etc.
  • #44
  • Sep 25, 2017 12:03pm Sep 25, 2017 12:03pm
Quoting Don96
let me speak to your investors, if they exist, because you obviously don't know what you are on about ALSO WTF you mean 'traders CUM coding'?
CUM = AND in some parts of the world. You won't find this on Google LOL
Staying in my lane...
  • #45
  • Edited 3:35am Sep 26, 2017 3:05am | Edited 3:35am
Quoting aleksandarfx
i am interested because i have no trading capital big enough . what is next step where should i sign in
This TE I have set up to encourage people like you to not give up an effort to demo trade for 3 months.

Whether you get capital or not, you will thank me for this.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #46
  • Sep 26, 2017 3:21am Sep 26, 2017 3:21am
Quoting simnz
{quote} This TE I have set up to encourage people like you.
You won't encourage anyone with a Demo TE
Conventional trading is for losers
  • #47
  • Sep 26, 2017 3:29am Sep 26, 2017 3:29am
I think the thread starter gave up .. (:
  • #48
  • Sep 26, 2017 3:41am Sep 26, 2017 3:41am
The capital provider group has yet to give me the symbols to be traded and risk controls to be applied as they were hoping some trader will show
interest in risk controlling partner and will post something on this thread.

That's not happening, so I will wait for the capital providers to provide me the whole scheme of symbols, stoploss for each symbol, equity stoploss.

Until then, keep watching my TE of demo trading. I will also join the race once they give all the details. I have set up my own TE to get ready.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #49
  • Sep 26, 2017 3:44am Sep 26, 2017 3:44am
Actually, such a crash course of demo trading within defined parameters is a boon to an aspiring trader who is losing money with the bucket shop without making any preparations at all hoping for a quick and unrealistic return.
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  • #50
  • Sep 26, 2017 3:55am Sep 26, 2017 3:55am
There is no complusion for anyone to have capital provider backing after 3 months.
For your own sake, do it whether or not you need the capital

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  • #51
  • Sep 26, 2017 4:08am Sep 26, 2017 4:08am
I currently own a public hedge fund in South Africa and manage clients funds per Power of Attorney, my fee being 25% profit share. Should your partners feel interested then PM me
  • #52
  • Sep 26, 2017 4:25am Sep 26, 2017 4:25am
Not sure what's happening here but I'll do 400+ pips for you.
I'll trade only 1 pair (gbp/jpy) but I will not share my strategy, analysis or R:R logic.
I'm not going to use an ea either.
Serious offer,
Cheers.
  • #53
  • Sep 26, 2017 4:33am Sep 26, 2017 4:33am
Quoting RBlackburn
Not sure what's happening here but I'll do 400+ pips for you. I'll trade only 1 pair (gbp/jpy) but I will not share my strategy, analysis or R:R logic. I'm not going to use an ea either. Serious offer, Cheers.
OK do it on a TE until the start date is announced with rules and regulations. I will show it to capital providers and it is up to them to provide me with waiver policy and its rules and regulations.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #54
  • Edited Sep 27, 2017 1:36am Sep 26, 2017 4:36am | Edited Sep 27, 2017 1:36am
Quoting simnz
I am playing the role of a middle man in arranging capital partners and traders who have the ability and temperament to trade but lack funds. I have lined up a group of capital providers from the emerging markets where fx trading is not allowed because of exchange controls and they are looking for experienced traders to trade on their nominee accounts. No fx education will be provided nor any training fees will be asked for. That's why traders have to prove their credentials by showing proof of having been Ff member for at least one year and are...
if u are legit im game. but like everything else in the world, my entries are proprietary. that said, i can still send you daily p&l. i'll even go a step furthur and set up a youtube live stream for you to check it out in real time. but with entry and exit timing and lot size blocked out. (look at my trading journal for an example).

why do i demand this? simple.
1)because given the time of entry/exit one can unwrap entries and look for consistancy deciphering entry criteria
2) why i block lot size, because based on t/p u can unravel what my r:r is. similary deciphering risk management
3) because you are from china, not being racist or anything(matter of fact, i too am half asian). like everything else, china is #1 at copying. they buy the original, tear it down. rebuild it and resell. given that that is rampant in the retail industry, i dont see why someone cant reciprocate the process in trading. therefore accecpt my terms and conditions or im out.

this to me is a i dont need you, but you need me. and if i can earn extra so be it scenario. so yeah, my terms are non negotiable.

to me u are going about this entire thing wrong. im sure u are looking for profitable traders. profitable traders definitely know what their worth is. so yeah. that in itself should tell u alot. going about telling people that they are already established;etc and thus not suit what u are looking for and that what you want are experienced successful traders with no capital. that sentence in itself is a big joke. a big paradox
  • #55
  • Sep 26, 2017 4:38am Sep 26, 2017 4:38am
Quoting Lifestudent3
I currently own a public hedge fund in South Africa and manage clients funds per Power of Attorney, my fee being 25% profit share. Should your partners feel interested then PM me
You are already established. Capital providers have their own way of assessing the candidates based on forward trading records. Their money they want to control their way and you line up for the demo test or hook up one of your real trading account with TE on FF. Capital providers will hold the money in their accounts and control risks remotely through a risk controller.
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  • #56
  • Sep 26, 2017 5:40am Sep 26, 2017 5:40am
Quoting Bicarus
{quote} check out my trading journal. if u are legit im game. but like everything else in the world, my entries are proprietary. that said, i can still send you daily p&l. i'll even go a step furthur and set up a youtube live stream for you to check it out in real time. but with entry and exit timing and lot size blocked out. (look at my trading journal for an example). why do i demand this? simple. 1)because given the time of entry/exit one can unwrap entries and look for consistancy deciphering entry criteria 2) why i block lot size, because based...
Who said I need you? You have a right to be a legend in your mind. Good luck.
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  • #57
  • Sep 26, 2017 5:58am Sep 26, 2017 5:58am
Quoting simnz
{quote} OK do it on a TE until the start date is announced with rules and regulations. I will show it to capital providers and it is up to them to provide me with waiver policy and its rules and regulations.
OK. I will make 400 pips on my own rules and regulations as stated earlier and display it publicly so you can inform your investors.
Thanks.
  • #58
  • Sep 26, 2017 6:31am Sep 26, 2017 6:31am
yet to see any proof that any of said investors exist...
right now the thread more like something from those 1st April jokes.

as Bicarus said:
" what you want are experienced successful traders with no capital. that sentence in itself is a big joke. a big paradox"
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #59
  • Sep 26, 2017 7:09am Sep 26, 2017 7:09am
Quoting simnz
{quote}...Capital providers have their own way of assessing the candidates based on forward trading records.
Capital providers? Capital? 50k? Capital?

Quick search for online loans, no many questions asked for proved business... :

"The EGF ImpactLoan™ offers fast, flexible and affordable business funding from $100,000 to $500,000"

https://www.excelsiorgrowthfund.org/...ans-up-to-500k

Next one:

"Flexible business loans Up to £120,000 for any business purpose"

https://www.ezbob.com/

Hell... my credit provider would do 50k without any questions...

Capital providers, ha?
  • #60
  • Sep 26, 2017 7:30am Sep 26, 2017 7:30am
I would say really successful traders already trade with at least 500K of their own money.
They trade by their own rules, know exactly how to make money and keep all the profits.
No need to get involved with shitty "investors".
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