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{quote} I do not believe that statement. We have no knowledge of all the previous civilisations that may have existed, how populous they were or what killed them off. The Aztecs are an example, except that 'we' know about them. If you examine Africa there are many examples of children who never make it as far as adulthood and who therefore do not reproduce. A typical couple may have 8 children, and of those 2 or 3 survive to be adults. In our western civilisation (an oxymoron) almost all children live to be adults, but that was not always the case....

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Quoting Ross88

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{quote} here's some of the consequences of doctors/parents giving children hormones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdO3oxDJ13s

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Quoting DrManhatten

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https://youtu.be/n02hYGLPDbk Lesson here is read the fine print before deciding to do business with a certain entity that provides financial services. I have a feeling this story is not going away anytime soon!

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Quoting DrManhatten

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Its early here, and so I am posting this as an interesting read on the anniversary of "9-11". Lost two very good friends in the 9-11 attack, and each year gets a little easier to deal with in the grieving process. The feelings are not the same, as the perspective changes as we get older and the introspection of a greater meaning that laments with wisdom gives one new insights on what humanity is capable of. Everything changed for America after that day, so for me personally, I wonder about my friends and what their lives meant, and taken too soon...

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Quoting jen101

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{quote} How are there pyramids built by the Aztecs and also built by the Egyptians? Surely they weren't travelling across the world during that time and talking to each other. How are those great feats of engineering possible without today's modern equipment? Not once, but twice? Outside help? Are we being watched? Have we had visitors?

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Quoting Ross88

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{quote} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFlAFo78xoQ i think it's more likely earth had a massive set back than aliens help us build religious sites and that's why our history is a bit all over the place with things like Gobekli Tepe and Machu Picchu the last one is more of a debate {image} {image} i don't know where the top painting comes from and most probably is just a hoax and the bottom one is from India in India their is...

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Quoting DrManhatten

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Its early here, and so I am posting this as an interesting read on the anniversary of "9-11". Lost two very good friends in the 9-11 attack, and each year gets a little easier to deal with in the grieving process. The feelings are not the same, as the perspective changes as we get older and the introspection of a greater meaning that laments with wisdom gives one new insights on what humanity is capable of. Everything changed for America after that day, so for me personally, I wonder about my friends and what their lives meant, and taken too soon I also contemplate what would have become of them had they survived. [sigh] Forgiveness is one of the hardest things to overcome in order not to impede our personal growth, not forgiving only hurts myself and only feeds more hate, something that needs reminders to break this endless cycle of negativity within ourselves, something I continue to remind myself and work on to improve. Anyway, I found an interesting article as such days like this where I search for signs, or memories that gives clues to my own understanding of questions still persisting as confounding theories, and unanswerable constructs that still leave me in an endless contemplation, or a loop if you will with a dirge of grief as summers passing and heading into autumn induces such reflections of times gone. The squirrels gather their Acorns for preparation of winter, reminders to me that perhaps I should do the same by awakening such urgencies to recognize the cycles of the season is about living in the now. "We are here waiting, take care, and hope to see you some day my friends," are my thoughts when thinking of Brian and Matt, two people who were never found in the 9-11 recovery efforts, two beautiful human beings who might have changed the world! https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/11/the-fifth-year-anniversary-of-september-11th-attack-on-benghazi-libya/#more-138466

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Quoting Exodus

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{quote} When I started reading this I at first mistook the date for 2001, I did not realize that 2012 was another important date. It is not the remembering which is damaging, it is dwelling upon the events. We are like leaves on a tree. At some point we are all gone, and along the way there are early fallers. After many leaves the tree also is gone. Such is the greater truth which is change.

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Quoting jen101

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{quote} {quote} I don't believe we should forgive or forget. Why should the passage of time change our feelings about certain events? Stand in a war cemetery and look around. Look at the gravestones of the fallen. Nothing has changed for them since the day they fell. I don't believe time is a healer in itself but I believe time can dilute the pain, if you let it, as does looking forward rather than back. Lest we forget.

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{quote} India is full of such stories with evidence.

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Quoting Exodus

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{quote} When I started reading this I at first mistook the date for 2001, I did not realize that 2012 was another important date. It is not the remembering which is damaging, it is dwelling upon the events. We are like leaves on a tree. At some point we are all gone, and along the way there are early fallers. After many leaves the tree also is gone. Such is the greater truth which is change.

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Quoting DrManhatten

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{quote} Life is in a constant state of flux, so change is inevitable as result. The profound part is what is done with that change that matters most in the now. Which is why forgiveness I believe is an important part of being in the now. Forgive but don't forget!

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{quote} Not forgiving doesn't mean you are still angry, bitter or feel animosity, damaging your own health and not being able to move on. It can also be of indifference. It means you don't want anything to do with that person or people and definitely not be friends with them.

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{quote} In an indirect way, I always half heartedly meditated on a metaphor such as the "Four Horsemen of the Apocalyptic" and the fourth one was missing being Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and .... who? This of course was many, many years ago when I entertained such contempts for organized religions. Now, not so much, I do more listening than talking these days as I have a appreciation for certain elements of them. They teach me new things about important aspects of Human history, their behaviors, and seek to identify what has changed, something that...

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My thoughts on forgiveness. Forgiveness is more of a Christian ethic as it is mentioned in the NT (even though it is mentioned often in the OT, I think as it is being discussed here it is more relevant to the NT). Have not seen it discussed much in any other religion. It is mainly so the the wronged can let go of an incident so they will be able to move forward in their life. It has nothing to do with condoning an act or making less of the act. It also does not mean the perpetrator of any act should be allowed to walk free. It also has nothing to...

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