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Making your own bank!

  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 2:29am Sep 9, 2017 1:37am | Edited 2:29am
Holy grail revealed?
That is what you all wish for right?
is it really exist?

yeah. i think in this world. its really does exist.I would tell you how, its not about investing,
its not about forex strategy.Its called banking system..

Do you know how the bank make money?
It makes money in a lot of way, but one of the method is giving loans not with his money, and earn the interest from it.
and if someone cannot give back the money to the bank, the house or his asset will be taken.
Then we all will fight to earn money that and give interest to the bank.

You can learn how the bank make money on the internet,but today im going to tell you all how to making your own bank.
You can prove it, you can prove it right, or you can prove it wrong.
But the idea is still valid, and it still would be working for the one who did It.

The method is simple:
1.Open 2 account,and deposit minimum 10.000 USD on each account.
2.Choose a method that only need 50% winning strategy, with 1:1 Risk and ratio reward.(i use 10 pips Stop loss, and 12 pips TP. so risk and reward included comissions)
If you want i can tell you how about the method.but i want to see the response first in this forum.
3.Open only 0.1 % risk when you trade.(in 10.000 USD means you only open 0.1 Lot with 10 pips SL.)
4. When you buy on the first account, you sell on the another account( i use only buystop and buylimit on the first account) and (i use only sellstop and buystop on the second account).
5.When it trigger the buy one the first account, it will trigger the second trade on another account.
6. If the first trade win, the other trade will lose..
7. The next day, repeat the order with the same rule( the first account buy, and the second account only sell.)
the different is the lot size.on the losing account, use the lot number:
(1.3.7.15.31.63.127.255 )means yesterday if you open 0.1 lot,the next day you will open 0.3 lot. and etc atc,
this way you are preparing your account to lose straightly 8x.
8. And if the second order win, you will gain 0.3% on your second account, and lose 0.1% on your first.Means on the second account you will gain 0.3% means everyday you earn 0.1% consistently)
9.Keep repeating the same order everyday. Only open a trade for each account.(one is buy and another one is sell).
10.With this number and risk management as long as you didnt lose 8X straightly on each account ,you will gain 0.1% everyday continuosly on your total account.

If you count one month as 25 trade day.You will gain 0.2% x 25 =2.5% a month!

With a low risk and you wont need to care about bulish and bearish anymore,you wont care about the fighting in the market everyday.
As long as you didnt lose for 8 times continously. You will keep earning everyday consistenly 0.1% on each account.
How easy is that?


Its easy, but no one has think about it.
WITH 20.000 USD you can make your own bank. and earning 2.5% a month!
You can thank me to help you making your own bank..

HAPPY BANKING!
  • #2
  • Sep 9, 2017 2:02am Sep 9, 2017 2:02am
please reveal or share.
  • #3
  • Sep 9, 2017 2:04am Sep 9, 2017 2:04am
revealed already.
  • #4
  • Sep 9, 2017 2:17am Sep 9, 2017 2:17am
Looking forward to see you doing that for the next 6 months. report back when your account is up 30%.
  • #5
  • Sep 9, 2017 2:35am Sep 9, 2017 2:35am
If you're long 0.1 on one account and short 0.3 on the other account you're net short 0.2 globally. What's the point wasting spread and commission to open 0.4?

After adjusting for this your size progression is 1, 2, 6, 14, 30, 62, 126, 254. This holy grail is just yet another boosted martingale.
No greed. No fear. Just maths.
  • #6
  • Sep 9, 2017 2:50am Sep 9, 2017 2:50am
Quoting PipMeUp
If you're long 0.1 on one account and short 0.3 on the other account you're net short 0.2 globally. What's the point wasting spread and commission to open 0.4? After adjusting for this your size progression is 1, 2, 6, 14, 30, 62, 126, 254. This holy grail is just yet another boosted martingale.
you didnt get the point, its not even about spread or comission.. this method is not about losing and winning.
its about betting on the both side, betting that you will losing, and winning, but you will keep earning.
Example:
even the first account you lose on first day,the second day, if it win.then it will gain 0.3%, means its 0.1% on each day.
THe second account if it win on the first day, it lose on the second, and it win on the third day,then you will gain 0.6%, it means it will gain 0.3% also on the third day.

If it lose, continue, if it wins. reset the lot.
So it doesnt matter which is losing, which is winning. In the end , both account will grow 0.1 gradually everyday, if you are not losing 8x in a row.
I asked you, what is the probability 8 buy order in each different day profit in a row? and what is the probabilty for sell trade to win 8x in a row?
If you are doing coin toss how much is the probability to give you 8x tail? and 8x head in a row?
so it not about winning and losing, its not about martiangling on winning side. you martiangle on both side.
you may both win and lose, but as long as they keep winning and losing you will keep winning.
Think about the bank, it has a lot of money, everyday people are taking loans, and everyday lots of them are depositing money.
Still they are earning interest on the money that did not exist at all.
and if someone cannot pay the interest, the bank will take the house, or the asset.
Meanwhile we keep fighting each order to get the money.
  • #7
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:07am Sep 9, 2017 3:07am
Quoting zentrader8
revealed already.
look forward to seeing you post your results
  • #8
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:08am Sep 9, 2017 3:08am
The probability is 1/256. So in a calendar year, you would be 'lucky' if you hadn't bust.
  • #9
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:12am Sep 9, 2017 3:12am
Quoting saussichesu
The probability is 1/256. So in a calendar year, you would be 'lucky' if you hadn't bust.
I think it's even higher because with a TP of 12 pips and a SL of 10 pips there is a certain risk that you'll end up loosing both trades a day.
  • #10
  • Edited 3:39am Sep 9, 2017 3:14am | Edited 3:39am
Quoting saussichesu
The probability is 1/256. So in a calendar year, you would be 'lucky' if you hadn't bust.

How you get the number?
hahaha.

if its based on sequence, bhow can you tell my sequence if everytime i win i reset my lot.and everytime i lose i martiangle it.
how you can tell 1/256 if you dont know where i put my order.
as per day, there are millions of profitable trade on buy side, and yet there are millions of profitable trade on sell side as well.
even if it bullish or bearish market.different timing, will give you different result on same trade.
you can try it on demo. and it wont bust. you only think of one side(buy side/sell side). But the fact is this method is on both side!
You can try demo it first, its even hardly get to 5x in a row! even if you try!.
Do whatever analysis, and try to get 5x lose in a row.
  • #11
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:19am Sep 9, 2017 3:19am
For those who are seduced by martingale, a Las Vegas casino reported that red came up I think it was 72 times consecutively. Try martingaling that.
  • #12
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:19am Sep 9, 2017 3:19am
Quoting zentrader8
with 1:1 Risk and ratio reward.(i use 10 pips Stop loss, and 12 pips TP. so risk and reward included comissions)
that is why people lose at casino, they think playing red/black is a 50:50 chance.
To clarify your strategy requires 1:1.2 risk and reward ratio, not 1:1... not including slipage
if you win with your strategy, which you may indeed, that is just luck, nothing else
  • #13
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:23am Sep 9, 2017 3:23am
Quoting SputnikX
{quote} I think it's even higher because with a TP of 12 pips and a SL of 10 pips there is a certain risk that you'll end up loosing both trades a day.
Your perspective is based on perfection!. you think you need perfect strategy to makes it work.
You need perfect time, you need perfect timeframe,you may need perfect indicator.
In fact, it doesnt. You wont need perfect analysis. you can do the analysis, but it wont be perfect anytime. you think you can do the analysis and be perfect 8x in a row.
But In this method, you need imperfections.I dont do any analysis for the method.If i do then i try to be perfect.
As long as it imperfect it gives you money.
Its easier to bet on imperfectness rather than bet money on perfections.
As i bet on 8x imperfections,rather than 8x perfections.
Hope you understand what i means.
  • #14
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:25am Sep 9, 2017 3:25am
Quoting zentrader8
{quote} How you get the number? hahaha. you can try it on demo. and it wont bust. you only think of one side(buy side/sell side). But the fact is this method is on both side! You can try demo it first, its even hardly get to 5x in a row! even if you try!. Do whatever analysis, and try to get 5x lose in a row.
a martingale on both sides makes it much worse. Is this a joke? just open your chart and look for 8 consecutive down or up days on any pair. there are several a year.
  • #15
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:32am Sep 9, 2017 3:32am
Quoting saussichesu
{quote} a martingale on both sides makes it much worse. Is this a joke? just open your chart and look for 8 consecutive down or up days on any pair. there are several a year.
yes there is 8 consecutive down candle on chart. But yet there is no price that go down 8 days without even some small corrections.
thats why i need only 12 pips.means condition in the market , bullish or bearish or sideways. it can go and hit your SL or TP.
How can you bet your money on perfect conditions in perfect timeframe with the perfect analysis?
when 80% of us cannot predict where exactly the price will move on the next hour, or when exactly it will move, it goes up first or go down first.you were betting on perfections.while this method betting on imperfections.
  • #16
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:36am Sep 9, 2017 3:36am
Quoting zentrader8
{quote} yes there is 8 consecutive down candle on chart. But yet there is no price that go down 8 days without even some small corrections. thats why i need only 12 pips.means condition in the market , bullish or bearish or sideways. it can go and hit your SL or TP. How can you bet your money on perfect conditions in perfect timeframe with the perfect analysis? when 80% of us cannot predict where exactly the price will move on the next hour, or when exactly it will move, it goes up first or go down first.you were betting on perfections.while this...
I can't tell if you're a troll or a masochist, but good luck to you.
  • #17
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:38am Sep 9, 2017 3:38am
Quoting zentrader8
{quote} you didnt get the point, its not even about spread or commission.. this method is not about losing and winning.
HE GOT EXACTLY YOUR POINT... he knows more then you in this subject, I can assure you.


I run system like this 24/7 for last 7 months, non stop, a robot. Guess what? It works. It runs through all NFPs. It run through Korea. It run through Trump's comments. It run through Brexit ripples. And every single spike, trend and range on usdjpy for last 7 months you can find on 5 minutes charts. Every single week was a winner. I designed it to withstand 13 losses in a row. So far it encountered 10 losses in row max and usually it is 5-7.

It works - till it will crash with 50% loss. I will repeat: TILL IT WILL CRASH WIPING OUT ALL OF YOUR WINS. Not IF, not MAYBE, no PERHAPS... IT WILL CRASH.

I have back tested over number of years, over number of pairs, over number of time frames, with different position progression. IN EVERY SINGLE CASE IT WAS ONLY MATTER OF TIME TO LOOSE ALL WINS AND MORE, NO MATTER HOW MANY LOSSES IN A ROW IT COULD ACCEPT.

And I have been testing (purely for curiosity) on real account, with real money, on real markets, with real spread, with real commissions. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, MY SYSTEM AND SO YOURS WILL CRASH. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE AT SPECULATING, YOU WILL SURELY HAVE YOUR MAGICAL 8 LOOSES IN A ROW (A EVEN MORE IN THE FUTURE).

There is one more aspect though, for manual execution: your psychological ability to handle it.

You see... you start with very tiny position size. It is very small, in fact is tiny tiny. It has to be, because you are have to have a room to increase your position size exponentially as losses in a row mount together.

When you are in a winning stroke, which can be going for weeks or months, when your system is doing well (meaning not many long loosing stokes), your weekly wins are tiny. Very tiny, almost meaning less. In other words, you dont have much to show for yoru work.

HOWEVER, when your system is doing badly (meaning you run losses strokes), the position size increases incredibly, exponentially. In your case from 0.1 lot to 25 lots. Do you understand what I am taking about? You speculate with a positions size of 2.5 million versus initially 10 thousands.

Are you able to handle that? Positions 255 bigger? Knowing that this maybe with your 9th loss in a row and you account will be hugely damaged and all your wins you had will be gone and you have to start from scratch, after perhaps weeks or months of work?

Good luck with that.
  • #18
  • Sep 9, 2017 3:52am Sep 9, 2017 3:52am
Yes, I agreed. It will work until it crashes. It will not only wipe up ur earning over the months, it will even hurt ur capital. Maybe in statistic, it should not take 8 times to reset again, but in forex, u never knows.
  • #19
  • Sep 9, 2017 4:01am Sep 9, 2017 4:01am
The problem is: many risk for little gain.
If the profit is important, we can take this risk.
  • #20
  • Sep 9, 2017 4:06am Sep 9, 2017 4:06am
Quoting zentrader8
Do you know how the bank make money? It makes money in a lot of way, but one of the method is giving loans not with his money, and earn the interest from it. and if someone cannot give back the money to the bank, the house or his asset will be taken. Then we all will fight to earn money that and give interest to the bank.
One more comment.

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW BANKING WORKS

They function for long period of time for one and only one reason: your tax money. You sponsor them by the virtue of the governments giving them money at time when they should fail. To the tune of trillions. And that is cleaver about banks, although immoral.

Do some research on US Treasury and Paulson in 2008. The same story with all other big banks. Big, because small banks died long time ago and now just white labels.

Sooooooo... unless you have an angel that will bail you out at time of trouble, your system does not replicate even remotely how modern banking works.
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