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  • #2,501
  • Sep 8, 2017 3:26pm Sep 8, 2017 3:26pm
Quoting FxHelp
{quote} You hit a nerve there buddy. totally true. OPEN MIND I gotta tell you , Lots of good traders here on FF, and Lots of Confusers that confuse others to slow learning curve. OPEN MINDED can see thru all that and excel
have you seen tony112. extrem, crazy typ. is holding on stupid strategy, even when math and logic is showing is always not better then simple other strategy. he will not hear arguments, his followers are even same crazy. hard to see that so many people can be so stupid and blocked in their mind, perfect example of how a trader dont has to be. but happens.

but this people are not often to see here in forexfactory, he is a special kind of boring with own life and open mind.
  • #2,502
  • Sep 8, 2017 11:39pm Sep 8, 2017 11:39pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} have you seen tony112. extrem, crazy typ. is holding on stupid strategy, even when math and logic is showing is always not better then simple other strategy. he will not hear arguments, his followers are even same crazy. hard to see that so many people can be so stupid and blocked in their mind, perfect example of how a trader dont has to be. but happens. but this people are not often to see here in forexfactory, he is a special kind of boring with own life and open mind.

What is the point in contributing here? I mean really only 2% or something like that make it, the rest are either, fools, demagogues or the sheep that follow them, just like the real word sadly.

This whole experience over the last few weeks has been depressing. I guess I have found a few acquaintances of like mind, so maybe it was worth it for that.
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  • #2,503
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:30am Sep 9, 2017 12:30am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} sorry, you lost any arguments and your only chance not to look like a total beginner idiot was putting me on your ignose list. thats the truth. aussi baby (yes with your 60 years you are still a baby too, in forex at least) , you live in your dreams, not reality. but funny, after this monts many terached you your wrong arguments you are still impossible to learn and at same low level. maybe its really because you are to old, and old people dont learn any more, i can be honest to you with writing is and be a liar and tell you you are good,...
He is a demagogue. The world is full of them these days. I say again, people like you and me are waisting our time and energy posting in this place.
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  • #2,504
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:32am Sep 9, 2017 12:32am
From reading the last few pages of this forum and a couple of others it is seeming more and more obvious that most traders are arrogant wankers. They all think that because they have been around for a while they know best and others that trade differently or have different opinions are wrong or somehow inferior to them.

Lets be honest here, people that are posting negatively against others (where correct or not) on forums are not trying to protect other traders you are trying to make yourself look better in other peoples eyes by trying to make someone else look less important. That is being a bully, not some arrogant person saying they have heaps of cash and their trading style is awesome (that is just ego and stupidity)

It is hard to make a living in this game, give credit where credit is due, help others and if you don't like a forum or someones posts just move on. Time to grow up kids.
'Stability breeds Instability' Hyman Minsky
  • #2,505
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:42am Sep 9, 2017 12:42am
Quoting ALFtrade
From reading the last few pages of this forum and a couple of others it is seeming more and more obvious that most traders are arrogant wankers. They all think that because they have been around for a while they know best and others that trade differently or have different opinions are wrong or somehow inferior to them. Lets be honest here, people that are posting negatively against others (where correct or not) on forums are not trying to protect other traders you are trying to make yourself look better in other peoples eyes by trying to make someone...
Honestly, I probably will cease posting, it really is a kind of depressing masochism.
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  • #2,506
  • Sep 9, 2017 1:15am Sep 9, 2017 1:15am
Quoting ALFtrade
From reading the last few pages of this forum and a couple of others it is seeming more and more obvious that most traders are arrogant wankers. They all think that because they have been around for a while they know best and others that trade differently or have different opinions are wrong or somehow inferior to them. Lets be honest here, people that are posting negatively against others (where correct or not) on forums are not trying to protect other traders you are trying to make yourself look better in other peoples eyes by trying to make someone...

To answer your statement more fully, it was my intention on here to help people understand that it is possible to trade and make enough to live well. If that has made me come across as an egotistical wanker then I guess that is my loss.

I found when I was learning to trade that I had great doubts as to whether it was actually possible. It is possible. It is very hard. But it is possible. I've tried to tell my story, I am happy to help people, but I do not pretend that my way of doing things is the only way, it's a way that works for me, and I think my approach could work for others.

it saddens me that there are so many con men and neigh sayers on this site, but you are right when you say move on, I have better things to do than be abused by strangers for claiming success and trying to do a little to pass on some of what I have learned.
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  • #2,507
  • Edited 6:17am Sep 9, 2017 5:59am | Edited 6:17am
Quoting ALFtrade
From reading the last few pages of this forum and a couple of others it is seeming more and more obvious that most traders are arrogant wankers. They all think that because they have been around for a while they know best and others that trade differently or have different opinions are wrong or somehow inferior to them. Lets be honest here, people that are posting negatively against others (where correct or not) on forums are not trying to protect other traders you are trying to make yourself look better in other peoples eyes by trying to make someone...
thats very stupid opinon, and i tell you why.
your opinion is exact the opinion, why the world often is bad , people who dont want to do against such liar/faer/poser like tony112. with him its easy to see he is a bog loser, who wants bring his ego in forground. there are not so many extrem fakers like tony112 here in forexfactory, so you dont will see it done so often.

i dont know, maybe you are extrem new in trading and you cant see it, near anything he wrote was wrong, near any argument was destroyed, he even faked a lot of his facts . ofcourse there are still stupid followers, on earth are many stupid people, you cant help all. thatswhy you say, when you see such a liar and misleading person like tony, you dont should say negative about him and tell positive about such a faker? come on, i am not this person who accepts this loser mentality persons who fakes sucess. if you cant see it in him easy, you are new in trading. maybe in some years you will remember and see the truth more esay and i hope you will then stand to you and not hide when other people are cheated by fakers.
if i would be wrong by him, i would ofcourse change my mind and apologize , but any arguments he did bring was destroyed, in tony112 last 10 posts he only did say nothing with arguments anymore, because he checked he was now official to see as bad trader and faker and with more he fakes more will be opened to see. why do you think he has no arguments to defend his stragegy? not because its good, simple because he is this loser what he looks like, so easy is the world. i say all things in arguments, always! say anything about my arguments and i am afraid very often that a discussion can start. but when all arguemnts from other person are wrong ( and tony112 had not one (!) correct argument, thats amazing), then its normal that this person start crazy things like tony to get someone out.

Tony112 is not alone here, there are other persons in forexfactory with his bad character and style, but his is many levels up bad style against the others. Aussi is also known for very unexperienced and stupid ideas and hiding after get losing any arguments , but maybe he has the problems because of his age and cant know it better, but Aussi is an engel against this tony112.

and to your exact point:

yes, i think i am smarter then topny, but not because i am smartest, because tony is not smart. and that not subjetiv, its objetiv. when his strategie is done you can have:
1. this near no slippage dont exist in biggest news: then his trading is bullshit
2. when this near no slippage exists with his brokers, then straddle would always much better then his strategy.

this is a fact! always! you cant say anything against this fact, its pure math and unbeatable. and this is the point i did told, nothing more!

ofcourse its then easy to say that i am smarter then tony, when tony cant see his own mistake in his strategy. that i trade longer, maybe trained better, all ok - i dont say anything against tony why he had this crazy trading style and live style that looks like kills him and makes him crazy. but dont seeing this math basic logic when its shown him makes him a stupid trader (or even he dont trade at all and only want pushing commercial for a broker, who knows, looks more logic), thats a fact! ignoring better ways and much superior ways its like being small number all the time, and same time faking being big number but even dont understanding most known easy market basics.

so enough for the crazy tony topic.
  • #2,508
  • Sep 9, 2017 6:21am Sep 9, 2017 6:21am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} He is a demagogue. The world is full of them these days. I say again, people like you and me are waisting our time and energy posting in this place.
its not wasted. its shown any day how important it is to learn math and market basics.
ofcourse we cant help all, and extrem stupid followers will always follow extrem stupid traders, thats normal in the world. same in politics, wars,.. impossible to change. but we can help people who has possibility to thing for their own at least.

and by writing i learn also sometimes and rethink about some topics and get new ideas. not with discussion with extrem wrong people ofcourse, but not any person here is a tony112. this rethinking and getting new ideas is the return i get.
  • #2,509
  • Edited 9:59am Sep 9, 2017 9:22am | Edited 9:59am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} To answer your statement more fully, it was my intention on here to help people understand that it is possible to trade and make enough to live well. If that has made me come across as an egotistical wanker then I guess that is my loss. I found when I was learning to trade that I had great doubts as to whether it was actually possible. It is possible. It is very hard. But it is possible. I've tried to tell my story, I am happy to help people, but I do not pretend that my way of doing things is the only way, it's a way that works for me,...
Bud, not direct at you. I think it is actually a trait of traders to be arrogant and to think they are correct and that their opinion is important. I'm just as guilty as yourself Dukas and Tony.

From what I have read Guy you have not bagged or been mean to anyone. Which you can't say for everyone on this forum.

All the best bud and don't get to perturbed by others that are just as arrogant as the rest of us but don't know how to express their opinions in a productive way.

Dukas, we are all big boys and can make our own minds up about what is reality and what is fake, we don't need your opinion to work this out. You don't need to pass comment that you are so experienced so everyone else must be new to trading and beneath you. You don't know me or anyone on here personally so how could you pass judgement on these things. I have not said I agree with Tony or anyone else, not for me to say. I think that anyone who is trading on MT4 through market maker retail brokers will have a hard time grinding out a living as the brokers will eventually ask you to leave if you are profitable, especially if you are news trading. I know this from experience.
'Stability breeds Instability' Hyman Minsky
  • #2,510
  • Sep 9, 2017 10:50am Sep 9, 2017 10:50am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} I am happy to teach you my approach to the problem, but I will of course never reveal my actual setups. Nobody no matter how good their story is likely to give away the golden goose. Can you use excel or some other software that would enable you to back test large amounts of data?
Thanks a lot, i know excel a little ( still a noob ) but im willing to learn.
  • #2,511
  • Sep 9, 2017 12:43pm Sep 9, 2017 12:43pm
Quoting metta87
{quote} Thanks a lot, i know excel a little ( still a noob ) but im willing to learn.

Check out this guy
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  • #2,512
  • Edited 4:54pm Sep 9, 2017 1:24pm | Edited 4:54pm
Quoting ALFtrade
{quote} Bud, not direct at you. I think it is actually a trait of traders to be arrogant and to think they are correct and that their opinion is important. I'm just as guilty as yourself Dukas and Tony. From what I have read Guy you have not bagged or been mean to anyone. Which you can't say for everyone on this forum. All the best bud and don't get to perturbed by others that are just as arrogant as the rest of us but don't know how to express their opinions in a productive way. Dukas, we are all big boys and can make our own minds up about what...
ofcourse its stupid to trade with a market maker broker. if you are at least at medium level, you will never chosse one. market makers are only there for beginners and unexperienced people or people with "stupid" trading strategies. when broker of trader has interest conflict with trader it will end always complicated.

but mt4 is not so bad, i use it as some frontend for prime brokerage api connection, often more easy then pure brokers trading station, and you orders are protected against broker too (information of orders, entry, tp, Sl, systematic...) if done correctly.

to tony part i dont tell any more, or it will be a very long story.

but short to you:
you know it is a forum, if someone like tony is writing absolute bullshit its possible to correct him? so easy! if you are writing bullshit i correct you too and many others. that a foum for, also discussion and correction of opinion and mistakes is a part of it. you can not simple block this part because you dont like be corrected.

if you think i am wrong, bring arguments, only saying " i am big boy, i dont need your opinion" tells more, you dont know really what is a forum for and a discussion and you know your opinion is stupid very often and better noone will say it to you.

and where did i pass comment that iam so experienced and everyone else must be new to trading and beneath me? i really dont know you, correct, but because i see what you right and justifying by this is easy. i dont think when you write bullshit your are good, i dont think when you write good thinks you are bad.
so whats the point, its easy to see if someone is good, stupid, unexperinced , faker, poser....if you see some of his textes. maybe you cant do it, but when you start learning more, you will know it more easy.

i do the business many decades and you will see that its so much easier than you think. and i dont think i am very good, for many big wins are not worth to call some as good in earning much, because many have even some extrem high million or billion earned because of some businesses. so i would say i am simple medium level at maximum. but i would say i have seen so many in the years, so many coming and going.

if someone like you told , he will not hear other opinions about what he is writing, then he is wrong in forum. so its maybe possible, that you are very wrong in forum. ofcourse its often character style, some have problems with get critic, they cant handle it and block. but this people should not use forum, or at least should learn how to use arguments to stand to their points.

with your experience in news trading with market makers: sounds like the old style, read the news fast because of faster connection and using a slower feed (connection) market maker broker for placing fast the trades, so kind of arbitrage. or did you use the straddle style with marketmakers with small slippage and they did not payed out the money because of this?
  • #2,513
  • Sep 9, 2017 7:09pm Sep 9, 2017 7:09pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} ofcourse its stupid to trade with a market maker broker. if you are at least at medium level, you will never chosse one. market makers are only there for beginners and unexperienced people or people with "stupid" trading strategies. when broker of trader has interest conflict with trader it will end always complicated. but mt4 is not so bad, i use it as some frontend for prime brokerage api connection, often more easy then pure brokers trading station, and you orders are protected against broker too (information of orders, entry, tp, Sl,...
Market Makers, ECN, DMAs all very similar. The thing is even an ECN has to go through a Market Maker as the liquidity for the forex market is provided by the large investment banks all over the world. This is how the market has buys and sells at all times. Even though there is no central exchange there still is market makers behind the ECNs otherwise there would be no market. Half the ECN and DMA brokers are just for gullible traders who think they are 'advanced traders', a marketing tool to get semi new traders to there brokerage. Even an ECN will 'B' book you and take the other side of your trades. In Australia all brokers offer both Market Maker and ECN but makes very little difference, if you are a profitable trader they generally will ask you to leave after you take out over $100000. Traded all types of brokers, got through 16 of them until I decided to trade my strategies on the futures market. Now use Sierra Charts, CT4 data feed, Optimus as my broker and AMP as my clearing house and have had no problems. Higher commissions and fees but happy to do this for the security of knowing that my orders are definitely going through to the actual market.

Yes you are correct I use to straddle occasional new spikes which only work with MMs due to lower slippage and fixed spreads on ECNS this doesn't work as well and hence the problem with Tony's strategy. He is either always moving brokers or not telling the whole truth. Either way I hope he is profitable and he seems like a nice enough fellow. He's not asking for money off anyone so unsure what the issue is.

Good luck
'Stability breeds Instability' Hyman Minsky
  • #2,514
  • Sep 10, 2017 4:19am Sep 10, 2017 4:19am
Quoting simond2002
{quote} I found a few of them. They were all diametrically opposed to the ones listed in books and elsewhere. Not much of a surprise at all really.

I have decided to take your advice. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...0#post10275850
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  • #2,515
  • Sep 10, 2017 5:45am Sep 10, 2017 5:45am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} I have decided to take your advice. https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...0#post10275850
  • #2,516
  • Sep 10, 2017 6:43am Sep 10, 2017 6:43am
Quoting ALFtrade
{quote} Market Makers, ECN, DMAs all very similar. The thing is even an ECN has to go through a Market Maker as the liquidity for the forex market is provided by the large investment banks all over the world. This is how the market has buys and sells at all times. Even though there is no central exchange there still is market makers behind the ECNs otherwise there would be no market. Half the ECN and DMA brokers are just for gullible traders who think they are 'advanced traders', a marketing tool to get semi new traders to there brokerage. Even...
you are true, in my beginnings my brokers closed also the accounts very often because of wins and they was pure market makers.

but there is one difference: after i was more known in trading by brokers, you talk to them. its even no problem if you trade with an marketmaker (when its not an pure marketmaker and he can put you in a book), as long as the marketmaker is not the opposite of your trades all is fine. ofcourse there is someone opposite of my trade always, but there is only one rule, it has not to be my own broker, rest is unimportant who it is. only the conflict of interest between broker and the trader is the problem, rest is problem of the next marketmaker and not important of the trader.

i todays day most brokers have a udn b book and put you in a book after you make some wins or bring in 100k or more (with 1 million a marketmaker would not start go against you), so their risk is much higher. ofcourse most important is to avoid scam brokers, so only choose best and biggest.

for tony, yes he takes no money, so he is no scammer, but i dont know, he often put in oanda as name very often, looks a bit like commercial from a broker under the level to looks like commercial.
  • #2,517
  • Sep 12, 2017 7:42am Sep 12, 2017 7:42am
Quoting GuyBaker
{quote} Wow you are clutching at straws now. I have a few hundred thousand GBP.
Bully Guybaker , YOU are clutching at straws now !
Metta87 asks for help about binaries and you answer : " I will never reveal my actual setups , of course ."
Horvat asks you to show some evidence about your fabulous gains and you answer : " No. I can show my trading account statements but not in an open forum , of course ".

But before , you had written :
1) " I am trying to build people up, to inspire..."
2) " I am happy to help people ".
3) " Trying to do a little to pass on some of what I have learned ".
4) " It was my intention on here to help people understand that it is possible to trade and make enough to live well ".
Liar and hypocritical !
Before you say you want to help others , BUT when others ask for your help and ask you to share your amazing setups , here is your answer :
" I will never reveal my actual setups , of course ."
" No. I can show my trading account statements but not in an open forum , of course ".
Hypocritical !

"Financial Software Engineer , Automated Systems, Fundamental Analyst, Quantitative Analyst, Technical Analyst , Full-Time Trader , I will be in the £million" : all lies ! You are rich in your sick head only. And if someone asks you where are the proofs , you say "Oh no , not in an open forum ,of course ".

Handsome darling , you've been discovered . You are only a bla ,bla , bla & bla. You're nothing but a lot of talk and a badge.
Before or after , you will be thrown out of this Forum with a kick . In the ass , of course.
  • #2,518
  • Sep 12, 2017 7:54am Sep 12, 2017 7:54am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Bully Guybaker , YOU are clutching at straws now ! Metta87 asks for help about binaries and you answer : " I will never reveal my actual setups , of course ." Horvat asks you to show some evidence about your fabulous gains and you answer : " No. I can show my trading account statements but not in an open forum , of course ". But before , you had written : 1) " I am trying to build people up, to inspire..." 2) " I am happy to help people ". 3) " Trying to do a little to pass on some of what I have learned ". 4) " It was my intention on here...
i really dont think you are right in this. he dont will take any money and dont want teach others his trading style. when some trade same style by short term trading it will not work any more. so not showing setups its not only normal, if you will see setups it will show this trader is a "loser" or faker, at least very unexperienced.

you really need to stop in this case, there is nothing happen with him. he simple write things, to help others in some topics. some can be wrong maybe, and by arghuments can be told whats wrong and why it cant work, but only telling this reasons you told, it says nothing really about someone.

really, you both should start at beginning, delete all in your heas what you both wrote in restart by beginning. only solution, or you both will fight without arguments until death for nothing in this case. springing about shadow and restart is best solution, when you get then again to this point, so long, at least try too.
  • #2,519
  • Sep 12, 2017 8:16am Sep 12, 2017 8:16am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} he dont will take any money and dont want teach others his trading style. when some trade same style by short term trading it will not work any more. so not showing setups its not only normal, if you will see setups it will show this trader is a "loser" or faker, at least very unexperienced. you really need to stop in this case, there is nothing happen with him. he simple write things, to help others in some topics. some can be wrong maybe, and by arghuments can be told whats wrong and why it cant work,...
I don't understand how an intelligent and wise person like you don't understand who he is really Guybaker. Did you speak with him on Skype ? So , did not you understand what kind of person he is ?
However I respect you .
Only time will tell us who is right...
All the best , my friend.

PS : regarding " he dont will take any money " , I will post a contrary evidence , soon.
PPS : instead of answering , accepting the dialogue and answer to my objections , he took the shortest road , that of cowards : click on " ignored ".
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  • #2,520
  • Sep 12, 2017 8:49am Sep 12, 2017 8:49am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} I don't understand how an intelligent and wise person like you don't understand who he is really Guybaker. Did you speak with him on Skype ? So , did not you understand what kind of person he is ? However I respect you . Only time will tell us who is right... All the best , my friend. PS : regarding " he dont will take any money " , I will post a contrary evidence , soon. PPS : instead of answering , accepting the dialogue and answer to my objections , he took the shortest road , that of cowards : click on " ignored ". {image}
Post away... Of course I have ignored you, you are stalking me with your vitriol. I have submitted every offensive post by you to admin, now is the time to cease and desist.
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