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  • #101
  • Aug 17, 2017 9:20am Aug 17, 2017 9:20am
Quoting GEfx
{quote} Yea, I think the idea we are both making is that if you are having a problem with your broker filling a 10 lot trade, you need to find another broker.
depends to what currency at what trading time in what trading point. you always take a broker with near all liquity providers in, so no difference between this later, only difference in platform, service, account security, private security, minimum account balance, commission, .......
  • #102
  • Aug 17, 2017 12:30pm Aug 17, 2017 12:30pm
Quoting Samer1970
ok lets do it in math if your account is 1:500 leverage that is meaning 10 lots : 5000 lots in the market this will cause a shock once you enter the sell or the buy order - once it is filled, the SHARKS begin to follow your trade to hunt your stop loss, if they can not, then they will try to hunt your margin call, if they could not, they will try to fill very small portions against you... in the broker virtual space of course... what so ever is your account leverage, this rule is true ok let's do it in this way if you do not believe me try this...
I don't think you understand the FOREX market well enough. If you use a good (Book A) broker then they cannot work against you as they are putting your order directly into the liquidity pools. More importantly if you honestly believe that 0.01 or 10 lots will even be noticed in the market you are sadly mistaken. I have seen retail traders do 150 lots on a VIP account and even though it took about a minute to fill all 150 lots, there were certainly no adverse market activity afterwards that moved the market in one direction or another. I watched this trader for a week doing trades on this size. Although 150 lots might seem alot, in the grand scheme of the market - it probably didn't even make a tiny dent.
  • #103
  • Aug 18, 2017 5:34am Aug 18, 2017 5:34am
Quoting londonboy
{quote} I don't think you understand the FOREX market well enough. If you use a good (Book A) broker then they cannot work against you as they are putting your order directly into the liquidity pools. More importantly if you honestly believe that 0.01 or 10 lots will even be noticed in the market you are sadly mistaken. I have seen retail traders do 150 lots on a VIP account and even though it took about a minute to fill all 150 lots, there were certainly no adverse market activity afterwards that moved the market in one direction or another. I...

A whole minute for 150 lots?

Can you tell us what broker it was?
  • #104
  • Edited 9:13am Aug 18, 2017 6:00am | Edited 9:13am
Quoting Botan626
{quote} A whole minute for 150 lots? Can you tell us what broker it was?
depends on time, currency and trading point. without this information broker info would be complete useless. its normal that you get many partially fills or some unfilled if you use limit orders and high amounts and small traded currencies or small volume trading times, and so on.......
  • #105
  • Aug 18, 2017 6:07am Aug 18, 2017 6:07am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} depends on time, currency and trading point. without this information borker info would be complete useless. its normal that you get many partially fills or some unfilled if you use limit orders and high amounts and small traded currencies or small volume trading times, and so on.......
Yes, my bad, time and currency pair should be specified to get the whole picture.


Are trad1ng point and broker the same thing?
  • #106
  • Aug 18, 2017 6:10am Aug 18, 2017 6:10am
Quoting Botan626
{quote} A whole minute for 150 lots? Can you tell us what broker it was?
Alpari UK ( they don't exist anymore though they went bust after the SNB removed the peg for EURCHF and the currency crashed.
  • #107
  • Aug 18, 2017 6:51am Aug 18, 2017 6:51am
Alpari Uk is shut now and no idea if the traders got their money back or not..!
  • #108
  • Aug 18, 2017 7:04am Aug 18, 2017 7:04am
I had a Live account with them although my balance was zero. I cant remember the exact payout % from the creditors, but I remember getting all the update emails and access to an online portal to claim my balance.
  • #109
  • Aug 18, 2017 8:25am Aug 18, 2017 8:25am
Quoting Botan626
{quote} Yes, my bad, time and currency pair should be specified to get the whole picture. Are trad1ng point and broker the same thing?
ah no, trading point is for example: if your trade the level of the last high/low, where many stop order are situated, and you place a stoplimit order for example, your chance to get filled complete with high volume and acceptable limit border is smaller then put this in other areas. or trading in news as trading point give you smaller chance all orders filled. and so on.....

so no broker in this case.
  • #110
  • Aug 18, 2017 8:28am Aug 18, 2017 8:28am
Quoting londonboy
{quote} Alpari UK ( they don't exist anymore though they went bust after the SNB removed the peg for EURCHF and the currency crashed.
was alpari ecn or?
or expert market orders?
because normal metatrader 4 alpari used a fill all or dont fill order structure, like most metatrader 4 brokers do.
  • #111
  • Aug 18, 2017 9:41am Aug 18, 2017 9:41am
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} was alpari ecn or? or expert market orders? because normal metatrader 4 alpari used a fill all or dont fill order structure, like most metatrader 4 brokers do.
Looks like your broker is Dukascopy and you use only one broker. What do you like the most in Dukascopy compared to other prime brokers such as LMAX?
Thanks
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #112
  • Aug 18, 2017 11:48am Aug 18, 2017 11:48am
Quoting heispark
{quote} Looks like your broker is Dukascopy and you use only one broker. What do you like the most in Dukascopy compared to other prime brokers such as LMAX? Thanks
i my older times i used this sometimes. not more since long time, when they started to reduce the limits to open accounts its was going down extrem in quality.
so i cant say anything about the last years, only many years ago, but i dont think this will help you.

best is all in a broker if you trade a lot, so you can have there all your securites and you are save for this securities.
if you trade not so often, the reduced commission are not that important. lmax is one Liquity provider i use too in my accounts, but only 1.
  • #113
  • Last Post: Sep 25, 2019 10:48pm Sep 25, 2019 10:48pm
Quoting Samer1970
ok lets do it in math if your account is 1:500 leverage that is meaning 10 lots : 5000 lots in the market this will cause a shock once you enter the sell or the buy order
NO that's not how leverage work, leverage only affect the margin required to open the trades, 10lots is always 10lots doesn't matter the leverage used in the account.

Quoting Samer1970
- once it is filled, the SHARKS begin to follow your trade to hunt your stop loss, if they can not, then they will try to hunt your margin call, if they could not, they will try to fill very small portions against you... in the broker virtual space of course... what so ever is your account leverage, this rule is true ok let's do it in this way if you do not believe me try this experiment on your trading account try to choose a peaceful time where there is not any news or action in the market open on your real account randomly 0.01 lot trade, at...
That's complete nonsense, follow some serious trading lessons before telling such nonsense in forums. You talk about margin calls but dont even understand how leverage work.
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