Anybody trade with 10+ lots? | Page 3 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

50 Lots and Up (Your Experience Trading Large Lots) 7 replies

How to make lots of money using micro lots 16 replies

How to make 1 trade so sell lots = buy lots? 6 replies

Open 4 trades for 4 lots or 1 trade for 4 lots? 5 replies

Why i can't trade if i change my EA to trade with 0.01 lots? 1 reply

Attachments: Anybody trade with 10+ lots?
Exit Attachments

Anybody trade with 10+ lots?

  • #41
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:34pm Aug 16, 2017 3:34pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} you are really crazy. you sound like an abolute beginner. ok lets start with the basics baby: leverage is a possible useable margin by broker, you can use, but dont have to use: you decide how much amount you want to trade. did you know understand it?? really learn the absolute basics, you cant argument here with no understanding at least the miniimum. how shall i tell you facts and arguments, you dont have the possibility to understand, when you even dont know what leverage is! normally you should find your mistakes in your sentences very...
i hope that, after you read these simple pages from baby pips school, you will understand how much deeply you were wrong ...
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #42
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:35pm Aug 16, 2017 3:35pm
Quoting Samer1970
{quote} {image}
you write me some textes, but i told you your mistakes already and you did not read your own links? funny boy.

ask other people about your sentences. if you find one who will tell you you are right, then it will be a big surprise.

you could save so much time, by simple hear to other first then rethink, then post 10 times links to read.
  • #43
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:41pm Aug 16, 2017 3:41pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} ok now last, i cant understand how someone has this big problem and dont like to learn. your stupid text was : "a small brief about leverage and margin 1: 500 means if you open 1 lot, the broker will enter you to he market by 500 lots so 10 lots is equal in margin market 5000 lots " oh man: when i open 1 lot, i open 1 lot, and not my broker enters me in the the market by 500 lot (never heard this wrong information in 20 years! you are the first). 1:500 leverage will only tell me , that i dont need to have 1 lot margin in my account -->1/500...

why your account has leverage

for fun may be

no - it is is not for fun.

read the baby pips school courses about the margin and leverage to know simply that you can not enter the market by 10 cents, bcz of that there is leverage

by the way i am not crazy, but it seems to me clearly that you are not an educated trader, you are just a put-call trader who thinks trading forex is just to pour some cash in the account and lets play put and call...

READ - AND LEARN FROM OTHERS IS NOT A SHAME BUT A WISE ACTION TO HAVE TO SURVIVE IN THE FOREX MARKET

LEVERAGE IS DONE TO MAKE YOU ENTER THE MARKET, YOUR 10 DOLLARS WILL NOT ENTER THE MARKET, BUT IF IT IS LEVERAGED TO 5000 TIMES ( 1:500 ) THEN YES THE BROKER WILL MAKE YOUR ORDER


ON THIS POINT I STOP

HERE IS THE LINK TO BABY PIPS SCHOOL SITE

I DO HOPE YOU WILL READ AND LEARN

https://www.babypips.com/search?q=leverage
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #44
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:50pm Aug 16, 2017 3:50pm
Quoting Samer1970
{quote} why your account has leverage for fun may be no - it is is not for fun. read the baby pips school courses about the margin and leverage to know simply that you can not enter the market by 10 cents, bcz of that there is leverage by the way i am not crazy, but it seems to me clearly that you are not an educated trader, you are just a put-call trader who thinks trading forex is just to pour some cash in the account and lets play put and call... READ - AND LEARN FROM OTHERS IS NOT A SHAME BUT A WISE ACTION TO HAVE TO SURVIVE IN THE FOREX MARKET...
i tell you your problem. you know nothing and try to sound smart. you read basics but did not understand what you read.
you speak about thinks and mix up all , you cant see what is the real behind.

i answered you to your wrong textes :

"a small brief about leverage and margin

1: 500

means

if you open 1 lot, the broker will enter you to he market by 500 lots

so 10 lots is equal in margin market 5000 lots "

this was what you have written, what i have corrected, that you now start to bring textes from websites with other topics, sorry, shall i correct now websites?

the truth is:

- you are wrong (total with what you wrote)
- you can trade whatever amount you want (use cent account if you dont have more ), you dont have to use extrem leverages. ofcourse there is a minimum amount, because its so small, its near no wins possible with it in cent accounts.
- ofcourse broker would like you to trade higher amounts or more often, like any business wants more clients or come in to buy more and more often. just normal. thats why they give you this leverage for so little price (what extrem good for smart customers and bad for stupid). its like with credits - you get a credit to buy all things, cars, whatever, good for smart people, bad for stupid....
- i am not here to teach you what you can learn by your own. you read and read, but noone teached you thinking. you need to know what you read, learn how to use information. i am not your mama to help you in this, thats your step, your response,...
- when you trade with your broker 10 lot, and he changes your order to 5000 lot order, change your broker , thats not anything near normal :-)
  • #45
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:51pm Aug 16, 2017 3:51pm
Samer,
my friend, i am sorry to tell but you got this very wrong!!

when you open 1 lot, you open 1 lot, when you open 10 lot, you open 10 lot.

the leverage has only a thing to do with the margin, ie. how much money you need to put up toward your broker to be able to open your 1, 10 or whatever lot.

1 lot =100.000$ (100k)
1:1 leverage would mean you need to put 100k down to be able to open this 1 lot trade.
your broker offers 1:500 leverage, means only you need to put 1/500th of that 100k down, ie. 200$ to be able to open 1 lot trade.

so, 10 lot order wont become 5000 lot.
as one high impact member, i am shocked how you came up with that idea!!!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #46
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:55pm Aug 16, 2017 3:55pm
Quoting profitfarmer
samer, my friend, i am sorry to tell but you got this very wrong!! When you open 1 lot, you open 1 lot, when you open 10 lot, you open 10 lot. The leverage has only a thing to do with the margin, ie. How much money you need to put up toward your broker to be able to open your 1, 10 or whatever lot. 1 lot =100.000$ (100k) 1:1 leverage would mean you need to put 100k down to be able to open this 1 lot trade. Your broker offers 1:500 leverage, means only you need to put 1/500th of that 100k down, ie. 200$ to be able to open 1 lot trade. So, 10 lot...
thank you for your feedback, do not be shocked.

The leverage is done to enable you to enter the market correct.

Again, as i am not native in english, i might describe it in away understood wrongly..

Nevertheless, your way is your highway...

Good luck
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #47
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:57pm Aug 16, 2017 3:57pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} i tell you your problem. You know nothing and try to sound smart. You read basics but did not understand what you read. You speak about thinks and mix up all , you cant see what is the real behind. I answered you to your wrong textes : "a small brief about leverage and margin 1: 500 means if you open 1 lot, the broker will enter you to he market by 500 lots so 10 lots is equal in margin market 5000 lots " this was what you have written, what i have corrected, that you now start to bring textes from websites with other topics, sorry, shall...
your way is your highway...

Good luck
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #48
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:58pm Aug 16, 2017 3:58pm
Quoting cyguy
Anybody trade with 10+ lots? Do you see a difference between slippage, limit fills, liquidity? Do you prefer a particular retail broker for the high account size?
I use several US approved brokers and trading with 10 or more standard lots per trade is never an issue. I suppose there could be some slippage if I trade off hours, which I rarely do, but any US broker will have no problem executing a 10 lot trade. If you continue to have problems, you could split the trade up between multiple accounts. FXSynergy is a tool that you might look into for such a trading set up. Best wishes and good trading!
  • #49
  • Aug 16, 2017 3:58pm Aug 16, 2017 3:58pm
Quoting Samer1970
{quote} thank you for your feedback, do not be shocked. The leverage is done to enable you to enter the market correct. Again, as i am not native in english, i might describe it in away understood wrongly.. Nevertheless, your way is your highway... Good luck
but i am shocked too
i did help you and teached/corrected you so often, but you did only run deeper in mistakes.

you have to learn to learn or your trading is like this, stupid running against a wall.

by the way: even with not native english, how you describe it a wrong way with mathemathic? you did 1 lot * 500leverage = 500 lot the broker will open for me. so how can this be possible to be done wrong because of wrong language? what math are you using in your country?

you way is your higway against a wall until now, you can correct it by learning the basics.
  • #50
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:00pm Aug 16, 2017 4:00pm
Quoting GEfx
{quote} I use several US approved brokers and trading with 10 or more standard lots per trade is never an issue. I suppose there could be some slippage if I trade off hours, which I rarely do, but any US broker will have no problem executing a 10 lot trade. If you continue to have problems, you could split the trade up between multiple accounts. FXSynergy is a tool that you might look into for such a trading set up. Best wishes and good trading!
this will only help with market makers brokers ( but cant help here really longterm because of its market makers) or with so small brokers, who have different liquity providers. in all other cases your own accounts battle for same amount same time, funny but stupid.
  • #51
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:05pm Aug 16, 2017 4:05pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} but i am shocked too i did help you and teached/corrected you so often, but you did only run deeper in mistakes. you have to learn to learn or your trading is like this, stupid running against a wall.
THANK YOU TEACHER
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #52
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:07pm Aug 16, 2017 4:07pm
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot1.png Size: 86 KB
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #53
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:09pm Aug 16, 2017 4:09pm
Samer,
I don't know how you ever made a trade.
I agree 100% with Dukas and Profitfarmer.

I have three brokerage accounts - all with different leverages. I can place the same one lot order with each of them and they all turn out the same.
You have a very strange interpretation of Broker leverage.
  • #54
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:10pm Aug 16, 2017 4:10pm
Quoting Samer1970
{image}
ok, this is your number 1 reason know to learn, or can be your number one reason to fail.

leverage is one of the most easiest to learn. simple a credit you get by the broker for your margin, nothing more, only a gift of a broker, someone can use or not.

babypips website is wrong in this case, most people fail because using martingale, using no SL, dont learn basics (leverage is only of this, but only one of the extremst simpliest!!!), trading with only (!) market making brokers or scam brokers, invest money in other traders,.......... so leverage is only one very small part of this.
  • #55
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:28pm Aug 16, 2017 4:28pm
Quoting profitkeeper
Samer, I don't know how you ever made a trade. I agree 100% with Dukas and Profitfarmer. I have three brokerage accounts - all with different leverages. I can place the same one lot order with each of them and they all turn out the same. You have a very strange interpretation of Broker leverage.
i know exactly that i am not wrong but it is clear that you miss out my point :

YES YOU CAN PLACE 5 LOTS X 2 TO MAKE 10 LOTS OR YOU CAN MAKE 10 LOTS DIRECTLY, THIS IS NOT MY ARGUMENT HERE.

BCZ THE LEVERAGE IS A REASON NUMBER ONE TO FAIL IN TRADING, WE MUST UNDERSTAND IT, THE AMAZING THING HERE I AM NOT AGAINST MAKING 10 LOTS OR 100 LOTS, THE SUBJECT IS THAT TO MAKE A TRADE OF 10 LOTS CAN BE DONE BUT THE FOLLOWING POINTS MUST BE CONSIDERED :

1- your account equity
if my account equity is for example 10000 usd, and i want to make 10 lots, the broker will remove a margin equal to what ? if my account leverage is 1:500 then each for 1 lot the margin will be 250 usd, that is for 10 lots then the broker will remove from my equity 2500 usd, then i left over with 7500 to protect the account

if this is wrong tell me

so if my account is 2000 usd, then i can not make 10 lots trade

Most professional forex traders and money managers trade one standard lot for every $50,000 in their account.
If they traded a mini account, this means they trade one mini lot for every $5,000 in their account.

Let that sink into your head for a couple seconds.

If pros trade like this, why do less experienced forex traders think they can succeed by trading 100K standard lots with a $2,000 account or 10K mini lots with $250?
No matter what the forex brokers tell you, don’t ever open a “standard account” with just $2,000 or a “mini account” with $250.
Heck, some even allow you to open accounts with just $25!
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot1.png Size: 185 KB


2- what is leverage :
it is not your money
it is your broker money
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot2.png Size: 7 KB
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #56
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:33pm Aug 16, 2017 4:33pm
3- what is margin
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot1.png Size: 5 KB
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #57
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:35pm Aug 16, 2017 4:35pm
4- leverage ratio

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot1.png Size: 82 KB
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
  • #58
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:35pm Aug 16, 2017 4:35pm
Quoting Samer1970
{quote} i know exactly that i am not wrong but it is clear that you miss out my point : YES YOU CAN PLACE 5 LOTS X 2 TO MAKE 10 LOTS OR YOU CAN MAKE 10 LOTS DIRECTLY, THIS IS NOT MY ARGUMENT HERE. BCZ THE LEVERAGE IS A REASON NUMBER ONE TO FAIL IN TRADING, WE MUST UNDERSTAND IT, THE AMAZING THING HERE I AM NOT AGAINST MAKING 10 LOTS OR 100 LOTS, THE SUBJECT IS THAT TO MAKE A TRADE OF 10 LOTS CAN BE DONE BUT THE FOLLOWING POINTS MUST BE CONSIDERED : 1- your account equity if my account equity is for example 10000 usd, and i want to make 10 lots,...

Samer. I know english is second for you, but try to understand.

If you have 1:50 leverage 1 lot of EURUSD needs $2,353.20

If you have 1:500 leverage 1 lot of EURUSD needs $253.32

If you enter a trade for 1 lot, you will buy 1 lot.

Leverage does not make you buy MORE LOTS, it makes each lot you buy require less margin.

I hope you now understand.
  • #59
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:38pm Aug 16, 2017 4:38pm
Quoting Samer1970
{quote} i know exactly that i am not wrong but it is clear that you miss out my point : YES YOU CAN PLACE 5 LOTS X 2 TO MAKE 10 LOTS OR YOU CAN MAKE 10 LOTS DIRECTLY, THIS IS NOT MY ARGUMENT HERE. BCZ THE LEVERAGE IS A REASON NUMBER ONE TO FAIL IN TRADING, WE MUST UNDERSTAND IT, THE AMAZING THING HERE I AM NOT AGAINST MAKING 10 LOTS OR 100 LOTS, THE SUBJECT IS THAT TO MAKE A TRADE OF 10 LOTS CAN BE DONE BUT THE FOLLOWING POINTS MUST BE CONSIDERED : 1- your account equity if my account equity is for example 10000 usd, and i want to make 10 lots,...
lets start the big teaching:

2- what is leverage :
it is not your money
it is your broker money
--> thats true, its a credit by the broker, a gift for the client.

Most professional forex traders and money managers trade one standard lot for every $50,000 in their account.
If they traded a mini account, this means they trade one mini lot for every $5,000 in their account.

--> complete wrong, you dont have seen one. noone trades fix 1 lot for 50k. you trade what you want risk, and this depends on trading amount, SL and probability of trade to win. leverage is only a max possible way you can use.

Let that sink into your head for a couple seconds.
--> dont overtrade. dont make it far more complex then it is, its only leverage , one of the most children rules you need to learn. if you have problems with this, all other kill you.

BCZ THE LEVERAGE IS A REASON NUMBER ONE TO FAIL IN TRADING, WE MUST UNDERSTAND IT,
---> so completly wrong. i did show you in a post before why already, when a website is writing down a mistake, you can think by your own and dont have to write this mistake again and again too.

1- your account equity
---> this part was ok, simple margin using calculation. basic stuff.
  • #60
  • Aug 16, 2017 4:41pm Aug 16, 2017 4:41pm
Quoting HoyPip
{quote} Samer. I know english is second for you, but try to understand. If you have 1:50 leverage 1 lot of EURUSD needs $2,353.20 If you have 1:500 leverage 1 lot of EURUSD needs $253.32 If you enter a trade for 1 lot, you will buy 1 lot. Leverage does not make you buy MORE LOTS, it makes each lot you buy require less margin. I hope you now understand.
true
GUYS BE AWARE FROM HUNTING YOUR STOP LOSSES BY YOUR BROKER & BY "GHOSTS"
0 traders viewing now