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  • #8,181
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:07am Aug 12, 2017 8:07am
Quoting verv
{quote} I know Soros backs a lot of these left wing lunatics. Doesn't mean that's reflective of all Jews - does it? Trump has Jewish backers, Jews in his cabinet, former Rothschild bankers too (oh nooo lol).
It is not only Soros. To me there is a difference between Israel and the International Jew. I do not buy into all the various thoughts on Israel. The latter group though have proven to be a bane on the world. Communism, the Frankfurt group, all manner of globalist dementia.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,182
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:09am Aug 12, 2017 8:09am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Pot kettle black LOL
You say this as if there is no difference in trade policy. The US has the most open and lenient trade policies in the world. This will and is changing. No more free rides off the backs of the US consumer/worker.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,183
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:12am Aug 12, 2017 8:12am
Quoting verv
{quote} One Jew is not representative of all Jewish opinion. Come on. Edit - in addition there are plenty of nuts who are Christian and especially atheist espousing these same retard views. Nobody is going around singling out Christians or Atheists.
The JQ is a real and serious consideration. Not to address it or to dismiss it is intellectual dishonesty.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,184
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:22am Aug 12, 2017 8:22am
Quoting spzd
Rumor is that the US will announce Sec 301 investigation against China on Monday. SECTION 301 Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 provides the United States with the authority to enforce trade agreements, resolve trade disputes, and open foreign markets to U.S. goods and services. It is the principal statutory authority under which the United States may impose trade sanctions on foreign countries that either violate trade agreements or engage in other unfair trade practices. When negotiations to remove the offending trade practice fail, the United...

Yeah I was reading that tidbit today. This IMHO is really the crux of the NK problemed child. China essentially by saying: that if the US strikes first then China will back up DPRNK and if NK strikes first they will remain neutral is unmasking their true face. Lets see what happens to China's economic machine where their largest exploits (The US Markets) has made them rich goes dry, or lets say the prospects of what that will look like for them seeing they are now enjoying the lifestyle of a rising middle class with all the perks to go along with it, won't be easy for them to give up. I would assume they will get NK to heel knowing perfectly well the US can target China's economic engine and render it broke in no time. Trump knows this, and the only way to deal with NK and their nuclear ambitions is to hit China hard economically!
  • #8,185
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:24am Aug 12, 2017 8:24am
Quoting spzd
{quote} You say this as if there is no difference in trade policy. The US has the most open and lenient trade policies in the world. This will and is changing. No more free rides off the backs of the US consumer/worker.
A lot of free trade agreements are designed to give the monopoly US corporations access to foreign markets so they can make local industries uncompetitive and monopolize the markets.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,186
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:27am Aug 12, 2017 8:27am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Yeah I was reading that tidbit today. This IMHO is really the crux of the NK problemed child. China essentially by saying: that if the US strikes first then China will back up DPRNK and if NK strikes first they will remain neutral is unmasking their true face. Lets see what happens to China's economic machine where their largest exploits (The US Markets) has made them rich goes dry, or lets say the prospects of what that will look like for them seeing they are now enjoying the lifestyle of a rising middle class with all the perks to go along...
If China were threatening Cuba, what do you think US would do. Wtf has NK got to do with US policy???
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,187
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:27am Aug 12, 2017 8:27am
Quoting verv
{quote} One Jew is not representative of all Jewish opinion. Come on. Edit - in addition there are plenty of nuts who are Christian and especially atheist espousing these same retard views. Nobody is going around singling out Christians or Atheists.

What do you call the left trashing Christians and their values then? I am not trying to espouse on this topic, but since post Modernism's indoctrination of cult, Christianity and it's freedoms have been under assault for the past 20 plus years. Just ask any leftists SJW what they think about Christianity, and all you get is evil white people, Christians white republicans controlling the world nonsense.
  • #8,188
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:31am Aug 12, 2017 8:31am
Quoting verv
{quote} One Jew is not representative of all Jewish opinion. Come on. Edit - in addition there are plenty of nuts who are Christian and especially atheist espousing these same retard views. Nobody is going around singling out Christians or Atheists.
Ur right one person is not representative and if that was the only example I could accept that argument, but it isn't, that is just the most visible example of Jooish attitudes.

Have you ever read the Talmud btw.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,189
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:35am Aug 12, 2017 8:35am
Quoting Magog
{quote} If China were threatening Cuba, what do you think US would do. Wtf has NK got to do with US policy???

Do I seriously have to spell this out for you Magog? The US was in a war with NK that was never resolved but only a declared armistice. South Korea is a trade partner and a US ally as there are 28,500 US servicemen and women currently stationed there. Japan is under US protection and a trade partner as well. Last time I checked China or any other country for that matter is not lobbing ICBM missiles at Japan, making open veiled threats of annihilation and killing people( Warmbier, assassinations, 40+ SK sailors in an incident that was soon forgotten about. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/22/north-korea-cheonan-sinking-torpedo) to warrant concern.
  • #8,190
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:40am Aug 12, 2017 8:40am
Quoting Magog
{quote} A lot of free trade agreements are designed to give the monopoly US corporations access to foreign markets so they can make local industries uncompetitive and monopolize the markets.
US global corporations do not have the best interests of the US economy/workers/consumers in mind when they back these one-sided trade agreements. With Trump this is changing fast. You already see all the announcements in 6 months of corporations expanding their industrial base back into the US. Not only US corps but also various foreign corps.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,191
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:48am Aug 12, 2017 8:48am
Quoting Magog
{quote} If China were threatening Cuba, what do you think US would do. Wtf has NK got to do with US policy???
NK is the proxy used by China to antagonize the US and allies in the region. This entire thing could be resolved if China would man up and put an end to it. China, not fully understanding Trump is nothing like his predecessors, still thinks the old playbook will work. This attitude is what is leading to the Sec 301 investigation.

The US can literally destroy China's economy in less than a year (likely much quicker) if they so choose. The economic numbers of China are huge (11+ trillion $ GDP, still small to the US 18+ trillion $ economy), but their economic foundation is built on loose sand.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,192
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:57am Aug 12, 2017 8:57am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Do I seriously have to spell this out for you Magog? The US was in a war with NK that was never resolved but only a declared armistice. South Korea is a trade partner and a US ally as there are 28,500 US servicemen and women currently stationed there. Japan is under US protection and a trade partner as well. Last time I checked China or any other country for that matter is not lobbing ICBM missiles at Japan, making open veiled threats of annihilation and killing people( Warmbier, assassinations, 40+ SK sailors in an incident that was soon...
The US has been in a war with someone, somewhere for it's entire existence - Why? who's the agressor here?
Ahh US protection!!! US has bases in most all countries in the world - Why?
If I was NK leader I'd want Nukes too - If its ok for Israel why not NK.
NK has been trying to agree a peace deal for years - US won't even talk.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,193
  • Aug 12, 2017 8:58am Aug 12, 2017 8:58am
Quoting Magog
{quote} A lot of free trade agreements are designed to give the monopoly US corporations access to foreign markets so they can make local industries uncompetitive and monopolize the markets.
I find that hard to believe considering that the US has had trade deficits in the Billions for the past 10+ years. Most countries like Germany, Canada, Mexico, China have all enjoyed the exploits of US markets that isn't even close to being fair. So it is no different from multi national companies setting up shop in the US and rendering local businesses noncompetitive. It has been happening for decades now at the expense of the American worker. Also talk about exploiting natural resources in regards to US energy policies in particular OIL, yes they have had trade deals with Saudi Arabia and other countries but no one talks about China's exploits of raping Africa, and killing off pristine forests in order to mine raw materials, and they do so without adhering to international rules in regards to environmental policies!
  • #8,194
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:00am Aug 12, 2017 9:00am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Do I seriously have to spell this out for you Magog? The US was in a war with NK that was never resolved but only a declared armistice. South Korea is a trade partner and a US ally as there are 28,500 US servicemen and women currently stationed there. Japan is under US protection and a trade partner as well. Last time I checked China or any other country for that matter is not lobbing ICBM missiles at Japan, making open veiled threats of annihilation and killing people( Warmbier, assassinations, 40+ SK sailors in an incident that was soon...
Seem to remember there used to be a north and south Vietnam too. That didn't work out too well for the ''protected'' south did it?
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,195
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:02am Aug 12, 2017 9:02am
Quoting spzd
{quote} NK is the proxy used by China to antagonize the US and allies in the region. This entire thing could be resolved if China would man up and put an end to it. China, not fully understanding Trump is nothing like his predecessors, still thinks the old playbook will work. This attitude is what is leading to the Sec 301 investigation. The US can literally destroy China's economy in less than a year (likely much quicker) if they so choose. The economic numbers of China are huge (11+ trillion $ GDP, still small to the US 18+...
Pot kettle black ROFLMFAO.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,196
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:07am Aug 12, 2017 9:07am
Quoting Magog
{quote} The US has been in a war with someone, somewhere for it's entire existence - Why? who's the agressor here? Ahh US protection!!! US has bases in most all countries in the world - Why? If I was NK leader I'd want Nukes too - If its ok for Israel why not NK. NK has been trying to agree a peace deal for years - US won't even talk.

No NK has not been talking a peace deal because they violated a UN treaty years ago, and because of this the US is not obligated to deal with a rogue regime who can't fulfill or adhere to a treaty that in which they agreed to in exchange for food and aide that the US provided them. . Yeah the US provided the North Korean people with plenty of food, money to help feed their people, Such evil bad Americans for trying to be generous by giving such gifts. Funny how your rhetoric is seeming to sound biased against anything related to Israel or the US. I think you are out of your scope on this subject matter, and I highly suggest reading a little bit more of this history before making such assumptions, clearly you are firing off stuff here without proper context to support your anti American stance.

Who is the aggressor? Hmm lets see? Who bombed Pearl Harbor? Who invaded Kuwait? Who bombed the World trade Center? Who were the communists that invaded South Korea? What would you want your country to do if lets say your precious London Tower were to be bombed? Turn around and hand your enemies kittens and flowers?
  • #8,197
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:10am Aug 12, 2017 9:10am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I find that hard to believe considering that the US has had trade deficits in the Billions for the past 10+ years. Most countries like Germany, Canada, Mexico, China have all enjoyed the exploits of US markets that isn't even close to being fair. So it is no different from multi national companies setting up shop in the US and rendering local businesses noncompetitive. It has been happening for decades now at the expense of the American worker. Also talk about exploiting natural resources in regards to US energy policies in particular OIL,...
US corporations don't necessarily need to produce anything in US to monopolize a market.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,198
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:12am Aug 12, 2017 9:12am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Seem to remember there used to be a north and south Vietnam too. That didn't work out too well for the ''protected'' south did it?

Right and lets cherry pick in order to support your own slant on why America is this evil war machine. Vietnam was a politicians war, and no doubt was a bad cause. You think your country is any better in its colonial exploits around the world who engaged in multiple wars? Why stop with the US if you want to be intellectually honest Magog!
  • #8,199
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:16am Aug 12, 2017 9:16am
Quoting Magog
{quote} US corporations don't necessarily need to produce anything in US to monopolize a market.

Ok name some US companies that don't produce anything that monopolizes a market! Give some examples!
  • #8,200
  • Aug 12, 2017 9:23am Aug 12, 2017 9:23am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} No NK has not been talking a peace deal because they violated a UN treaty years ago, and because of this the US is not obligated to deal with a rogue regime who can't fulfill or adhere to a treaty that in which they agreed to in exchange for food and aide that the US provided them. . Yeah the US provided the North Korean people with plenty of food, money to help feed their people, Such evil bad Americans for trying to be generous by giving such gifts. Funny how your rhetoric is seeming to sound biased against anything related to Israel or...
Funny how its ok for US and Israel to have nukes but not NK. When did US become the moral arbiter in world affairs?
So now you are justifying everything with Pearl harbour. what you gonna use next the Holohoax?
Some would say that the recent bombings across the world are blowback for US foreign policy in ME
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
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