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  • #8,101
  • Aug 10, 2017 3:19pm Aug 10, 2017 3:19pm
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Governmet should be made to produce a business case for all aid projects ( all aid projects must be fully audited) and when the business case fails to materialise, the person who signed it off, gets fired
Just cancel the standing order. Anyway the ones who supposedly need it are either in Europe or en-route !!
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  • #8,102
  • Aug 10, 2017 3:51pm Aug 10, 2017 3:51pm
I may not be long for FF as I will not tolerate the BS from the whiners. If I am forced to go I want to thank all of you here for putting up with me. Cheers.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,103
  • Aug 10, 2017 4:18pm Aug 10, 2017 4:18pm
Quoting spzd
I may not be long for FF as I will not tolerate the BS from the whiners. If I am forced to go I want to thank all of you here for putting up with me. Cheers.
SP just try giving the news thread a wide berth, it's futile. I'm convinced there are a few of them on the payroll and even when it is black they will say it's white and vice versa. The frustrated state just messes your own health up as prolonged raised cortisol levels just wrecks your adrenals. Is it really worth the agro ?
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #8,104
  • Aug 10, 2017 4:24pm Aug 10, 2017 4:24pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} SP just try giving the news thread a wide berth, it's futile. I'm convinced there are a few of them on the payroll and even when it is black they will say it's white and vice versa. The frustrated state just messes your own health up as prolonged raised cortisol levels just wrecks your adrenals. Is it really worth the agro ?
I'm good. Not stressed at all. I did take it directly to a couple of them and called them on their hypocrisy. And you are correct, it's all a waste of time. I like to picture them sitting there with a trickle of sweat running down their forehead as they picture the total butt hurt that could be released on them. OK so I have a fantasy of leftest annihilation. lol

edit: I did accuse ol' Cliffy for being an FF employee.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #8,105
  • Aug 10, 2017 4:37pm Aug 10, 2017 4:37pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} It's not dangerous to go very low carb, providing you switch fuel source to good fats. If you deplete glycogen and sedate or active, your body will adapt usually within 48hrs to fat burning, it will not consume muscle mass.Think the key is we are all different. Some cope better burning fat as primary fuel and others do better on clean carbs or a blend. One thing for sure everyone knows what doesn't agree with them because the body lets you know, just listen to it. There are plenty of fat adapted extreme athletes with great blood work and...
Fat and carbs go very well together, usually deep fried.

So what do you have with your fat? Or do you just eat a block of butter?

Most runners, the day before a race, do carbo loading. That is to fill up glycogen levels. I have never heard of anyone doing fat loading.
  • #8,106
  • Aug 10, 2017 11:57pm Aug 10, 2017 11:57pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Lots of potatoes then . The problem with the carbs from veg is that they have a very low GI index and takes a lot of breaking down to release that energy. That's good if you are sedentary, but if you do a lot of sport or are active, you really do need the quicker release stuff too and much more of it. Relatively speaking, you don't get that much from veg. Your liver stores the converted carbs as glycogen ready for use. It all depends on what your lifestyle is. Being sedentary is bad news so assuming you are active, then you really do...

I balance everything out. When I exercise, I will eat Qinoa made pasta or the grain itself. Potatoes are good too. It has worked out fine for me so far.
  • #8,107
  • Aug 10, 2017 11:59pm Aug 10, 2017 11:59pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Fat and carbs go very well together, usually deep fried. So what do you have with your fat? Or do you just eat a block of butter? Most runners, the day before a race, do carbo loading. That is to fill up glycogen levels. I have never heard of anyone doing fat loading.

Actually, some years ago I read an article about a couple of trekkers who were the first to cross Antarctica on foot. The article mentioned the key to their success to having such endurance was butter. Believe it or not!
  • #8,108
  • Aug 11, 2017 12:05am Aug 11, 2017 12:05am
Ok if NK strikes first this is what awaits them:

A10 Warhogs
Napalm
MOAB and Super MOAB
Cluster Bombs. Works great on dug in troops!
Hyperbaric Bombs good for bunkers and tunnels. Burns up all oxygen including the Oxygen in your lungs
Then there is the Air fuel Propane Bomb for massed human wave attacks. Worked great in Iraq
Time to dust off the Neutron Bombs. Perfect for NK and Europe
Then there is B61-D for digging out Bunkers. The US and England have shared tech on this one.
Air bursts. Less radioactive fallout.

That is just for starters.
  • #8,109
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:21am Aug 11, 2017 1:21am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} I balance everything out. When I exercise, I will eat Qinoa made pasta or the grain itself. Potatoes are good too. It has worked out fine for me so far.
That's good. I eat everything. No "don't likes." I don't allow my kids to have any "don't likes" either and that was right from the start, so they eat everything too. Never had any problems feeding them vegetables. Veg is just food and most of our diet is plant based. So when parents moan that their kids won't eat veg or whatever, it's their own fault. My kids know about nutrition.
  • #8,110
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:26am Aug 11, 2017 1:26am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Actually, some years ago I read an article about a couple of trekkers who were the first to cross Antarctica on foot. The article mentioned the key to their success to having such endurance was butter. Believe it or not!
Fat is the most calorie dense food, around 900 cal/100g. When you're in such adverse conditions and active, your main issue is getting enough calories. If that was Siberia, they could probably have had frozen mammoth blubber!
  • #8,111
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:31am Aug 11, 2017 1:31am
Quoting DrManhatten
Ok if NK strikes first this is what awaits them: A10 Warhogs Napalm MOAB and Super MOAB Cluster Bombs. Works great on dug in troops! Hyperbaric Bombs good for bunkers and tunnels. Burns up all oxygen including the Oxygen in your lungs Then there is the Air fuel Propane Bomb for massed human wave attacks. Worked great in Iraq Time to dust off the Neutron Bombs. Perfect for NK and Europe Then there is B61-D for digging out Bunkers. The US and England have shared tech on this one. Air bursts. Less radioactive fallout. That is just for starters.
Why can't you just drone strike fat boy pre-emptively?

Ahem, it's the UK, not just England. The tough nuts are all Scottish. No gender bending chemicals in the Scottish highlands.
  • #8,112
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:48am Aug 11, 2017 1:48am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Why can't you just drone strike fat boy pre-emptively? Ahem, it's the UK, not just England. The tough nuts are all Scottish. No gender bending chemicals in the Scottish highlands.

Forgot to include the famous Daisy cutter

Drone strikes are designed for singular targets and would not be effective in neutralizing a 1 million man army where bombing a larger radius is more bang for the buck sort of speak!
  • #8,113
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:48am Aug 11, 2017 1:48am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Fat and carbs go very well together, usually deep fried. So what do you have with your fat? Or do you just eat a block of butter? Most runners, the day before a race, do carbo loading. That is to fill up glycogen levels. I have never heard of anyone doing fat loading.
You mean go well together like this
https://youtu.be/_eFiAdxiCQM

You eat plenty of fresh veg and salad with the fat. So typically 5% or less of daily intake carb and 70-75% fat, balance is in protein and fibre. You will be very surprised at how much freedom you have when you don't rely on carbs as main source of fuel as you hardly ever feel hunger when you are using fat as primary fuel and it is very difficult to overeat. I mostly get by with one meal a day and have done for a good few years now. The fat source can come from avocado, eggs, cheese, fatty cut of meat, oily fish, butter various nuts, essentially from any whole food source and meat has to be organic not pumped with loading feeds and antibiotics.
It is a total myth about saturated fat raising LDL cholesterol levels and clogging arteries but it has kept pharma busy making STATINS !! You refer to "most" runners carb load, that's essentially because it's the way that has been pushed ever since the production of the infamous food pyramid. It's interesting that obesity has risen steadily inline with that doctrine. Athletes tend to get away with the high carb intake but look at them as they age and no longer compete, very often they pile on the pounds. Fat adapted athletes don't need to load at all they just maintain their usual diet, as once they are burning fat as the primary fuel they have sufficient stores to provide fuel without hitting the wall like carb athletes do. Carb athletes have to take on carbs regularly because the insulin response doesn't allow then to use fat reserves until they have started to produce keytone bodies.Read about it it is very interesting and there are lots of fat adapted athletes now who have made the change and thriving. There is science to break the old fat myths so none of this can be disputed anymore and what science understands clearly now that not all calories are equal. What is also interesting the fat adapted athletes, even the ultra runners (Beyond marathon and upto 100 miles) don't have that painfully emaciated skinny Mo Farah look. The constant need to replenish the carbs during intense exercise also requires the body to waste energy on the digestive process and therefore diverts more oxygenated blood to that process, which ultimately affects performance. If you can access fat that digestive energy can be diverted to the muscles.
This is defo worth listening to better understand.

https://youtu.be/HWhX8VElQLA
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #8,114
  • Aug 11, 2017 1:53am Aug 11, 2017 1:53am
Quoting jen101
{quote} That's good. I eat everything. No "don't likes." I don't allow my kids to have any "don't likes" either and that was right from the start, so they eat everything too. Never had any problems feeding them vegetables. Veg is just food and most of our diet is plant based. So when parents moan that their kids won't eat veg or whatever, it's their own fault. My kids know about nutrition.

But I don't eat everything, such as breads, pasta made from tradition ingredients and white rice! Very bad! Besides I have problems digesting breads, so don't eat it anymore. White rice I avoid at all costs, and pastas I only buy and eat the kind that is made from Quinoa! Eliminated Milk, coffee, unnatural refined sugars.
  • #8,115
  • Aug 11, 2017 2:20am Aug 11, 2017 2:20am
All this talk abt food has made me feel hungry - I feel a full English coming on.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #8,116
  • Aug 11, 2017 2:56am Aug 11, 2017 2:56am
Quoting Magog
All this talk abt food has made me feel hungry - I feel a full English coming on.
Ha ha enjoy mate, there are worse things you can eat !
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #8,117
  • Aug 11, 2017 5:16am Aug 11, 2017 5:16am
https://youtu.be/7y7kjv4Z3_0
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  • #8,118
  • Aug 11, 2017 5:52am Aug 11, 2017 5:52am
https://youtu.be/HEqumUGq5rs
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #8,119
  • Aug 11, 2017 6:08am Aug 11, 2017 6:08am
this makes me laugh the world is going crazy how would this women do in frontline combat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h-ZzHzTFM
  • #8,120
  • Aug 11, 2017 6:11am Aug 11, 2017 6:11am
Quoting Stu Effex
https://youtu.be/HEqumUGq5rs
a couple of weeks ago i was teasing someone on YouTube and they said their were going to the police
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