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  • #7,421
  • Aug 1, 2017 3:58am Aug 1, 2017 3:58am
Quoting Magog
{quote} So where did the 12ml no come from
apparently it was 11 million that died in concentration camps not 12 million i said 12 off the top of my head and was wrong the other 5 million were gypsies and communists and homosexuals and i'm sure many other groups were victimised that i'm not aware of

also you seem like the type of guy that loves a good old conspiracy theory a bit like myself did you know Eddie Bravo was on Joe Rogan Experience last night Eddie is my favourite conspiracy guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJziBQ6OLoQ

Quoting Magog
{quote} Ok Ross let me ask you another q - If we accept that 6 or 12 mil died in these death camps, can you tell me what happened to the bodies?
their were put into ovens
  • #7,422
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:13am Aug 1, 2017 4:13am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} apparently it was 11 million that died in concentration camps not 12 million i said 12 off the top of my head and was wrong the other 5 million were gypsies and communists and homosexuals and i'm sure many other groups were victimised that i'm not aware of also you seem like the type of guy that loves a good old conspiracy theory a bit like myself did you know Eddie Bravo was on Joe Rogan Experience last night Eddie is my favourite conspiracy guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJziBQ6OLoQ
Ok so 15-6=15 - glad we sorted that one out. Same q tho what happened to all the bodies
Do you know how many conspiracy theories turned out to be facts
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,423
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:20am Aug 1, 2017 4:20am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} apparently it was 11 million that died in concentration camps not 12 million i said 12 off the top of my head and was wrong the other 5 million were gypsies and communists and homosexuals and i'm sure many other groups were victimised that i'm not aware of also you seem like the type of guy that loves a good old conspiracy theory a bit like myself did you know Eddie Bravo was on Joe Rogan Experience last night Eddie is my favourite conspiracy guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJziBQ6OLoQ {quote} their were put into ovens...
Do you know how long it takes to cremate a body?
Do you know how long it would take to cremate 12ml
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,424
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:20am Aug 1, 2017 4:20am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Ok so 15-6=15 - glad we sorted that one out. Same q tho what happened to all the bodies Do you know how many conspiracy theories turned out to be facts

Q, Ok so 15-6=15 - glad we sorted that one out
?

Q,Do you know how many conspiracy theories turned out to be facts
lots

do you believe in UFO?
  • #7,425
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:25am Aug 1, 2017 4:25am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Where did I mention Jews??
Cute.

This post is from the world almanic about the numbers of jews : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10141029#post10141029

The reference to 6 million is supposed number killed in WWII : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10141111#post10141111

We all know that is what you are talking about.
  • #7,426
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:27am Aug 1, 2017 4:27am
Quoting jen101
{quote} It wasn't only Jews though was it? Lots of others died too, but it is the Jews making all the noise. Just a question, Jews have always been persecuted throughout history, why is that?
Yeh that's true, lots of dead people. Jews and others were targets for extermination though which is a bit different, however a dead person is a dead person.

My uncle ended up in German POW camp fighting in Italy, I think he was 6-7 stone when he came back, the yanks were the one to liberate his camp.
  • #7,427
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:42am Aug 1, 2017 4:42am
Quoting verv
{quote} Yeh that's true, lots of dead people. Jews and others were targets for extermination though which is a bit different, however a dead person is a dead person. My uncle ended up in German POW camp fighting in Italy, I think he was 6-7 stone when he came back, the yanks were the one to liberate his camp.
So they didn't gas all the inmates then?
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,428
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:44am Aug 1, 2017 4:44am
The Good News on Brexit They’re Not Telling You

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html
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  • #7,429
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:44am Aug 1, 2017 4:44am
Quoting verv
{quote} Cute. This post is from the world almanic about the numbers of jews : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10141029#post10141029 The reference to 6 million is supposed number killed in WWII : https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=10141111#post10141111 We all know that is what you are talking about.
I didn't realise - thanks for pointing out.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,430
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:45am Aug 1, 2017 4:45am
Quoting Magog
{quote} So they didn't gas all the inmates then?
the German did not gas POW but the brown shirts did start shooting enemies captured behind their lines after the SAS (desert rats) started sabotaging German hold territory

Very was this a Italy run POW camp or a German run one?
  • #7,431
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:46am Aug 1, 2017 4:46am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} Q, Ok so 15-6=15 - glad we sorted that one out ? Q,Do you know how many conspiracy theories turned out to be facts lots do you believe in UFO?
Y is that another ''conspiracy'' theory?
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  • #7,432
  • Aug 1, 2017 4:54am Aug 1, 2017 4:54am
Quoting Magog
{quote} So they didn't gas all the inmates then?
Who here made the claim they did? I didn't say that. It would be pretty stupid of me to say that given my uncle came home, barely alive, but alive none the less.

Nobody ever claimed that they killed all of their victims in gas chambers. There is footage of German soldiers putting bullets into people beside a pit which isn't too hard to find.
  • #7,433
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:03am Aug 1, 2017 5:03am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Y is that another ''conspiracy'' theory?
it's my favourite conspiracy theory i do not believe in the vast majority of them (conspiracy theory) but i have always been a fun of sci-fi so this one is the best one to me

do you really think the holocaust is not real or are you one of them guys that think the number are exaggerated?
  • #7,434
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:25am Aug 1, 2017 5:25am
Quoting Magog
{quote} So where did the 12ml no come from
Concentration camps didn't just hold and exterminate Jews, but Communists Gypsies, Roma, Slavics, Homosexuals, Handicapped (particularly mentally but also Physically), Russians, Politicals, Catholics, anyone who did not fit! The SonderKommandos had the unenviable task of cremating the bodies and removing the ashes , a task they undertook (as prisoners themselves) in the hope they would be spared. Most SonderKommandos were eventually killed anyway by the SS in order to ''cover up the evidence''.

While we consider the 6m Jews and others who were exterminated, one should also spare a thought for the 1.5 million Armenians who were the subject of genocide at the hands of the ottomans during and immediately after WW1. It should be noted that the Ottomans and the Kaisers's Germany were closely allied.

As a side note. My father in law was 'lucky'. He was imprisoned in a Gulag...
  • #7,435
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:29am Aug 1, 2017 5:29am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} it's my favourite conspiracy theory i do not believe in the vast majority of them (conspiracy theory) but i have always been a fun of sci-fi so this one is the best one to me do you really think the holocaust is not real or are you one of them guys that think the number are exaggerated?
Just ask yourself a few simple q's and see if you still believe after you try to answer them.

Why did concentration camps have swimming pools and orchestras
How did they cremate so many bodies
Why did the Int Red cross give the camps their seal of approval
Why is it illegal to even ask q's about it

There are loads of others I could ask but thats a start
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,436
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:31am Aug 1, 2017 5:31am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Concentration camps didn't just hold and exterminate Jews, but Communists Gypsies, Roma, Slavics, Homosexuals, Handicapped (particularly mentally but also Physically), Russians, Politicals, Catholics, anyone who did not fit! The SonderKommandos had the unenviable task of cremating the bodies and removing the ashes , a task they undertook (as prisoners themselves) in the hope they would be spared. Most SonderKommandos were eventually killed anyway by the SS in order to ''cover up the evidence''. While we consider the 6m Jews and others who...
Even so, I have still never heard that no mentioned anywhere
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,437
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:34am Aug 1, 2017 5:34am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Just ask yourself a few simple q's and see if you still believe after you try to answer them. Why did concentration camps have swimming pools and orchestras How did they cremate so many bodies Why did the Int Red cross give the camps their seal of approval Why is it illegal to even ask q's about it There are loads of others I could ask but thats a start
Magog, I am deeply offended by the direction of your comments here. Not appropriate in the slightest
  • #7,438
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:35am Aug 1, 2017 5:35am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Even so, I have still never heard that no mentioned anywhere
Mostly because it is totally eclipsed by the sheer number of Jewish victims. One is so horrified by the plight of such a large number of people from one ethnic group that there is little thought or compassion left for all the myriad of other smaller groups of people who suffered the same fate.

'Tis thus throughout history.
  • #7,439
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:38am Aug 1, 2017 5:38am
Quoting verv
{quote} Who here made the claim they did? I didn't say that. It would be pretty stupid of me to say that given my uncle came home, barely alive, but alive none the less. Nobody ever claimed that they killed all of their victims in gas chambers. There is footage of German soldiers putting bullets into people beside a pit which isn't too hard to find.
No but they killed every one of the 12ml or was it 6?
Most of the pictures I've seen, have an alternative narrative, much closer to the truth.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #7,440
  • Aug 1, 2017 5:39am Aug 1, 2017 5:39am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Magog, I am deeply offended by the direction of your comments here. Not appropriate in the slightest
Don't be. It is really easy to be taken in by the window dressing the Nazi's wanted to show just as the Red Cross were. You can bet they didn't see inside the main camps or huts, or the crematoria etc...
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