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  • #561
  • Sep 16, 2006 1:40am Sep 16, 2006 1:40am
Ok. I did just what you said:

I put up a pane of RSI 8.

Then, I used 2 moving averages:

1. 8 EMA of the RSI
2. 20 SMA of the RSI.


Here is a picture of the EURJPY:

I see the most recent down move had a red silvertrend dot. That dot coincides with the exact crossing of the RSI and its 8 EMA.


Am I on the right track?


Love to hear more about it.





Quoting taxgeek
I found this in another forum. It was originally created by Accrete. It works really well with Tlatomi. Put RSI(8) on your chart. Then the 8 period exponential moving average of RSI(8) (just drag the moving average from the navigator into the RSI pane and choose apply to first indicator from the drop down box.). Then follow the same method to put in the 20 period simple moving average of RSI(8). Look for the times when the RSI(8) crosses the 8 period moving average of RSI(8) or just look for the SHI Silvertrends and then look at the RSI. You'll find that if the Silvertrend signal is accurate, that RSI will also cross it's moving average. This happens almost at the same time as the Silvertrend appears. I can see where this could be used as a replacement for the notoriously repainting SHI or as a replacement for the 5-9 cross or a supplement to both. It happens much sooner than the 5-9 and pretty much coincides with the FX Sniper cross. On one particular Tlatomi trade on the EUR 4 hr, it would have gotten in 50 pips sooner than the 5-9 ( the 5-9 trade turned out to be a loser). Best longs are taken from crosses below the 20 period avg and shorts from above. Thought you guys might like to take a look at this.
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  • #562
  • Sep 16, 2006 11:29am Sep 16, 2006 11:29am
Thank you, Taxgeek. I use it with Snipers LSMA on H1 chart, but I don't think the way I use it can be called Tlatomi Method anymore.

Quoting taxgeek
I found this in another forum. It was originally created by Accrete. It works really well with Tlatomi. Put RSI(8) on your chart. Then the 8 period exponential moving average of RSI(8) (just drag the moving average from the navigator into the RSI pane and choose apply to first indicator from the drop down box.). Then follow the same method to put in the 20 period simple moving average of RSI(8). Look for the times when the RSI(8) crosses the 8 period moving average of RSI(8) or just look for the SHI Silvertrends and then look at the RSI. You'll find that if the Silvertrend signal is accurate, that RSI will also cross it's moving average. This happens almost at the same time as the Silvertrend appears. I can see where this could be used as a replacement for the notoriously repainting SHI or as a replacement for the 5-9 cross or a supplement to both. It happens much sooner than the 5-9 and pretty much coincides with the FX Sniper cross. On one particular Tlatomi trade on the EUR 4 hr, it would have gotten in 50 pips sooner than the 5-9 ( the 5-9 trade turned out to be a loser). Best longs are taken from crosses below the 20 period avg and shorts from above. Thought you guys might like to take a look at this.
  • #563
  • Sep 16, 2006 12:10pm Sep 16, 2006 12:10pm
Quoting longtang
Ok. I did just what you said:

I put up a pane of RSI 8.

Then, I used 2 moving averages:

1. 8 EMA of the RSI
2. 20 SMA of the RSI.


Here is a picture of the EURJPY:

I see the most recent down move had a red silvertrend dot. That dot coincides with the exact crossing of the RSI and its 8 EMA.


Am I on the right track?


Love to hear more about it.
You got the idea. I picked up on this because I'm trying to trade the daily charts. I have used Tlatomi on them, but the 5-9 crossover is a bit slow. A lot of the move tends to go by before you get in. I was looking for something that would confirm the SHI and not repaint itself. So that I could basically just use that and the FX Sniper cross in conjunction with the Vegas daily. This looked like just the ticket. I think it would probably help on 4 hour charts too because of the MA lag. I really don't fool with anything less than the 4 hr chart, so I don't know how it would work on shorter time frames. The period might need to be adjusted. This, of course, may not be exactly Tlatomi but it helps it I think. What I'm doing is probably not Tlatomi, because I've added quite a bit to it with things to monitor trend, support and resistance, and volatility to make sure that I trade at the optimum time. My goal is to pick up enough pips on one trade to be happy for a whole month until the next trade comes along. So far it's been successful and should improve with this addition.
  • #564
  • Sep 16, 2006 12:41pm Sep 16, 2006 12:41pm
Quoting lietuve
Thank you, Taxgeek. I use it with Snipers LSMA on H1 chart, but I don't think the way I use it can be called Tlatomi Method anymore.
I replaced the NonLagMA pretty quickly with the LSMA with an Rperiod of 10. It signals on the daily pretty much in conjunction with the SHI. That was my first effort to eliminate the lag of the 5-9. I've moved beyond Tlatomi too, although it's still the core. I just called attention to the RSI cross, because so many folks seem to have a problem or hangup with the SHI repainting. They can just use the cross to confirm quickly that the SHI signal is valid. If it's not, the RSI won't cross, and the SHI will just disappear on refresh. If the RSI crosses, you can be pretty sure that the MA cross will follow.
  • #565
  • Edited 9:20am Sep 17, 2006 9:01am | Edited 9:20am
Quoting sirwolf
Hi Folks! I went through this whole thread last night - fascinating! I can't wait to test this out. I will trade manually but I am also going to test the EA. I got a bit confused as my brain overloaded from all the great posts. Just a quick question:
Hi,

Since the thread is starting to be a little complicated for the new readers ''and the old ones'', i'm going to post 2 files :

tlatomi.pdf --- a detailed pdf presentation
tlatomi.zip ---- all the right indicators for the method

In this presentation, you could find the most recents settings.

Bye
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  • #566
  • Sep 17, 2006 12:30pm Sep 17, 2006 12:30pm
to judex001 or anyone else who can help,

thanks you judex001 very much for the extremely informative and comprehensive revised compilation of Tlatomi Strategy. It is very much appreciated.

one question on the Alligator indicator:
on the Alligator, can someone explain what type of "smoothed moving average, close" judex001 intends for us to use for each of the 3 MA lines-
I am aware of the shift or displacement also ( no problem there)
any explanation on the smoothed part of it would be very helpful.

since I use TradeStation instead of Metatrader I have to modify the existing indicators to fit TS.

thanks again for all the help
traderdp
  • #567
  • Sep 17, 2006 7:38pm Sep 17, 2006 7:38pm
Quoting judex001
Hi,

Since the thread is starting to be a little complicated for the new readers ''and the old ones'', i'm going to post 2 files :

tlatomi.pdf --- a detailed pdf presentation
tlatomi.zip ---- all the right indicators for the method

In this presentation, you could find the most recents settings.

Bye
Thanks for the update judex001.

About the alligator, it´s conformed by 3 SMMA. You can plot the respective MA with your values and voila, you have an alligator.
  • #568
  • Sep 17, 2006 8:10pm Sep 17, 2006 8:10pm
Quoting judex001
Hi,

Since the thread is starting to be a little complicated for the new readers ''and the old ones'', i'm going to post 2 files :

tlatomi.pdf --- a detailed pdf presentation
tlatomi.zip ---- all the right indicators for the method

In this presentation, you could find the most recents settings.

Bye
thank you very much for sharing your system! The new documention is very clear and well written and gives me some more ideas how to stay out of bad trades with this strategy.
  • #569
  • Sep 17, 2006 8:28pm Sep 17, 2006 8:28pm
Thank you for the files - it is much clearer now and I know I have all the recent indicators.

Thanks also to Orange for the improvements!

SirWolf
Believe and Achieve!
  • #570
  • Sep 17, 2006 11:21pm Sep 17, 2006 11:21pm
Wackena,
Can u insert an audio alert with feature to turn it on & off for the 'Silver' whenever a dot appears?
http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...&page=35&pp=15
Its on post #524.

Thank you.
sogt
CCI decipherer
  • #571
  • Sep 17, 2006 11:50pm Sep 17, 2006 11:50pm
Nice Avatar sogt725 . Wonder where you got it?

Jim
Indicators show the past. Price Action "Indicates" the future.
  • #572
  • Sep 18, 2006 4:57am Sep 18, 2006 4:57am
judex001,

Are we missing NonLagMa_v4 in the zip file?

MJ
  • #573
  • Sep 18, 2006 5:24am Sep 18, 2006 5:24am
hi all
i am new here so excuse my question if sounds silly, but regarding my nonlagama, its always yellow and doesnt change, am i supposed to change some imputs?

thnx in advance
shaker
  • #574
  • Sep 18, 2006 5:30am Sep 18, 2006 5:30am
Quoting shaker22a
hi all
i am new here so excuse my question if sounds silly, but regarding my nonlagama, its always yellow and doesnt change, am i supposed to change some imputs?

thnx in advance
shaker
Make all the settings match those given in the PDF.
  • #575
  • Sep 18, 2006 7:50am Sep 18, 2006 7:50am
Judexx thank you for summary in pdf file. It's very clearly defined. But there isnt description for exit signal . Can you add this section into this pdf please.


Thank you very much!
DarkMan
  • #576
  • Sep 18, 2006 9:53am Sep 18, 2006 9:53am
Hi,

Where should I put the Take Profit, in assumption that I cannot follow up the deal all the time ?

When should I move the position to break even ?

10x,

Tamir.
  • #577
  • Edited 2:11pm Sep 18, 2006 12:27pm | Edited 2:11pm
tamirbl:
In last judexx post (number #565) you can find how determine takeprofit.
  • #578
  • Sep 19, 2006 2:55am Sep 19, 2006 2:55am
a question here, where is the orange bar in Alligator indicator?
there is only 3 line blue red green
can somebody help me here?
  • #579
  • Sep 19, 2006 7:00am Sep 19, 2006 7:00am
I dont believe there is an orange bar in the indicator. That was added for you to visually see where a proper entrance would take black based on the confluence of variables (ie alligator, 5/9, CCI, Silver).

My thoughts.
  • #580
  • Sep 20, 2006 3:36am Sep 20, 2006 3:36am
Here are some results from my first day of using this system and so far I'm very satisfied made 282 pips in one day . Thank you very much for the guys who have been working hard to create this great method my humbel bows to you.
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