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  • #2,241
  • Jul 23, 2017 7:07am Jul 23, 2017 7:07am
Quoting analyst786
story is .. i said i have problem with skrill due to invalid password .. then after 2 days i said . yes problem has solved .. i am ready to deliver u strategy now . r u ready .. he replied no . we will do it tomorrow .. my question is if i was scammer then why i said i am ready to send u my strategy ..? plz be +ve and answer with honesty 2nd : plz say him to share the conversation ...and then decide what i said to him ? i gave him few signals too and he was happy with it say him to share conversation 3: i was connected with him...
Ok , those of Lisyah are just words, but also yours are just words , no proof... so , who is right ?
Lisyah said : " If I have time, I will screenshot all our conversation and post them here."
When he will do this , then we will know who the liar is.
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  • Edited 7:46am Jul 23, 2017 7:32am | Edited 7:46am
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  • #2,243
  • Jul 23, 2017 7:40am Jul 23, 2017 7:40am
Quoting redoktober
{quote} Ok , those of Lisyah are just words, but also yours are just words , no proof... so , who is right ? Lisyah said : " If I have time, I will screenshot all our conversation and post them here." When he will do this , then we will know who the liar is.
Here you go.
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  • Jul 23, 2017 7:42am Jul 23, 2017 7:42am
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  • Jul 23, 2017 7:43am Jul 23, 2017 7:43am
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  • Jul 23, 2017 7:44am Jul 23, 2017 7:44am
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  • Jul 23, 2017 7:45am Jul 23, 2017 7:45am
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  • Jul 23, 2017 7:46am Jul 23, 2017 7:46am
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  • #2,249
  • Jul 23, 2017 7:57am Jul 23, 2017 7:57am

  1. I waited for 6 hours for him to response not 3 hours as he said.
  2. I did mentioned earlier he did gave me the signals and I profited.
  3. He did say he will be waiting for me. Out of courtesy, he could have told me that he needs to postpone the session due to his 'circumstances'.
  4. I did say I will remove all my posts if he teach me the strategy. Unfortunately, he blocked me and along with my 250 USD. This very act of blocking me really affirms his status as a scammer.
  5. He unlocked his skrill account in 4 days not 2 days as he mentioned in his post.
  6. Before I pay him, he said I can share with my family, and suddenly cannot.
  7. He contradicts himself most of the time.
  8. My offer of reconciliation still stands, return my money or teach me the strategy and I will delete all my posts. Of course he won't do any of these options because that is what scammers do.
  9. The recent screenshot he shared in his thread is my account. See the koala bear. And this was done without my consent.
  10. Here are the links to the images he shared in my skype conversation:

  1. https://prnt.sc/fwbmgu
  2. https://prnt.sc/fwbsa1
  3. https://prnt.sc/fx33eq

  • #2,250
  • Jul 23, 2017 10:44am Jul 23, 2017 10:44am
A long read, those screenshots.
I am sure all who has the patience to read it can make up their mind.
Those who not, here is my summary:
(Sorry, I will use simple words, to reflect my opinion)

Lisyah is a noob. Nope, better with capitals: NOOB!
Only an idiot pays 250$ for signals/system when he has an account with 140$!!! To trade! Are you serious??
Sharing or not with family, is this really a matter? Like your father likely be interested in some scalping signals to follow...
Anyway
Some signals were sent, and during that time the seller/signal provider was clear about not to enter late on scalping signal, clear that it is related to high/low, on M1 tf, and generally put of the greedy and higher tf question, as truthfully there won't be every day a new high or low, and when there is not many news even M1 won't provide that many trades...
( I sometimes scalps too, all those make sense).

Seller has made 1 mistake, not to refund, although it is possible to relate to that somehow after someone just decide to fuck up reputation on 2 hours slip not being online, and start to post badly, swear words, name calling...yes, kind a pissing off. Guess even if some post removed, most reputation ( if there was any anyway) is over!

My conclusion, pay back the noob, -100$ for the trial, as trial was provided kinda.

No wonder FF. Now full of these 20$ to million BS! One to spend his/her most capital for holy grail, or just be an outright liar? Not sure which is better.
And about zero commercial members who stand as trustworthy. But that isn't something new, really.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #2,251
  • Jul 23, 2017 11:21am Jul 23, 2017 11:21am
Quoting profitfarmer
A long read, those screenshots. I am sure all who has the patience to read it can make up their mind. Those who not, here is my summary: (Sorry, I will use simple words, to reflect my opinion) Lisyah is a noob. Nope, better with capitals: NOOB! Only an idiot pays 250$ for signals/system when he has an account with 140$!!! To trade! Are you serious?? Sharing or not with family, is this really a matter? Like your father likely be interested in some scalping signals to follow... Anyway Some signals were sent, and during that time the seller/signal...
1. The correct word is I am greedy clouding my judgment. I want a quick way to get rich cause am a lazy bastard/noob.
2. Yes, my whole family is interested to find a way to earn extra cash. In my culture, it is important to seek consent from the one who taught you, meaning I have to seek permission to share whatever knowledge he shared with me.
3. Signal was sent 1 out of 5 day trading. Is it fair -100 from the trial?
4. You should actually read his thread. He said his method can be used in any timeframe. It was only mentioned during skype during the time he gave me the signal that it was meant for 1 min timeframe.
5. Did you not read I said I would remove all post. I would a public apology if I have to. If his strategy is actually working, he could use me as testimony. That would actually work in his favor, reputation can always be build again. But by deciding to actually blocked me, he actually burned the bridge to do just that.
6. I was pissed because he didnt show up during the time as promised. Apologies for my vulgarity. Time itself is money.

The whole point of the post is to save 5k from anyone else? Let this be my mistake not others.
  • #2,252
  • Jul 23, 2017 11:25am Jul 23, 2017 11:25am
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=685319
  • #2,253
  • Edited 1:59pm Jul 23, 2017 1:37pm | Edited 1:59pm
Quoting profitfarmer
A long read, those screenshots. I am sure all who has the patience to read it can make up their mind. Those who not, here is my summary: (Sorry, I will use simple words, to reflect my opinion) Lisyah is a noob. Nope, better with capitals: NOOB! Only an idiot pays 250$ for signals/system when he has an account with 140$!!! To trade! Are you serious?? Sharing or not with family, is this really a matter? Like your father likely be interested in some scalping signals to follow... Anyway Some signals were sent, and during that time the seller/signal...
thankx alot for neutral comments .. that was my point ...ur rock... atleast one who impress me with his point of view ..

i had 2 clients ready to buy my service . but after these conversation they are refused . i lost 500 $ ..i could get many clients .. i have lost my starting image which was enough for me .. so i am not gonna pay him back now at any cost .. by reading conversation u guyz can understand . i didnt cheated him.. didnt response him for few hours and he starting to blame me cheater and scammer with out any proof .and say many many bad things about me ...
  • #2,254
  • Jul 23, 2017 7:54pm Jul 23, 2017 7:54pm
Quoting analyst786
{quote} thankx alot for neutral comments .. that was my point ...ur rock... atleast one who impress me with his point of view .. i had 2 clients ready to buy my service . but after these conversation they are refused . i lost 500 $ ..i could get many clients .. i have lost my starting image which was enough for me .. so i am not gonna pay him back now at any cost .. by reading conversation u guyz can understand . i didnt cheated him.. didnt response him for few hours and he starting to blame me cheater and scammer with out any proof .and...

So.. you are actually selling it for $250 .. not $5k
  • #2,255
  • Jul 24, 2017 5:19am Jul 24, 2017 5:19am
Quoting analyst786
{quote} atleast one who impress me with his point of view .. i had 2 clients ready to buy my service . but after these conversation they are refused . i lost 500 $ ..i could get many clients .. i have lost my starting image which was enough for me .. so i am not gonna pay him back now at any cost .. by reading conversation u guyz can understand . i didnt cheated him.. didnt response him for few hours and he starting to blame me cheater and scammer with out any proof .and say many many bad things about me...
" and say many many bad things about me ..."
Analyst , please , don't make the victim ...
Rather, where are your proofs ? Lisyah posted 54 (!) screenshots and in there, everyone can read and judge your exact words.
Your objections about above screenshots seem very weak. Also , you said a serious lie : in your thread , you state that the system is valid on all TF.
But it's not true , because - after the customer has paid - you provide signals on M1 , that is a timeframe very challenging to trade , especially for a
newbie.
In the end remember : if you lost your image , Lisyah lost his money.

PS :
I agree with Profitfarmer :
1) Analist should refund at least 100 $ to Lisyah.
2) About zero commercial members who stand as trustworthy.
  • #2,256
  • Jul 24, 2017 6:21am Jul 24, 2017 6:21am
GHOSTBIKER ....Just deleted one of the TE when it reached -60% DD

GHOSTBIKER....WHERE DID YOUR TE GO.......EVERYONE SAW IT WITH 60% DD....WHAT EXCUSE DO YOU HAVE THIS TIME
Plan, Prepare, Execute, Repeat
  • #2,257
  • Jul 24, 2017 8:47am Jul 24, 2017 8:47am
Quoting swingtrade65
GHOSTBIKER ....Just deleted one of the TE when it reached -60% DD GHOSTBIKER....WHERE DID YOUR TE GO.......EVERYONE SAW IT WITH 60% DD....WHAT EXCUSE DO YOU HAVE THIS TIME
Right Swingtrade ,
Ghostbiker is definitively fucked up . BUT because he is a coward , he tries to hide the truth deleting his TE. Really pathetic.
He does not understand that his image here on FF is completely destroyed : I believe that all FF members understand that he is just a scammer , a liar
and a thief.
Anyway , here are the statement of July 21, 2017 of both Ghostbiker's EAs , before the deletion :

- first EA :
minus - 10.390 $ Unrealized
minus - 43.2 % of Return
minus - 4.073 PIPS
minus - 5.801 $ of Profit

- second EA :
minus - 27,443 $ Unrealized
minus - 29.7 % of Return
minus - 5.885 PIPS
minus - 16.297 $ ( !! ) of Profit
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  • #2,258
  • Jul 24, 2017 5:54pm Jul 24, 2017 5:54pm
there is alot of people claiming they have the holy grail.. the smartest guy in the room..
maybe they are smart.. but not necessarily they are good traders..
take a look at this guy.. FxTyrant..
he look down on others.. calling people names.. said those who long E/U above 1.13 has stupid written all over it..
but he doesnt look in the mirror.. he shorted at the low.. bought U/Cad at the top..
never ever look at a trader's past performance.. especially demo account..
he/she may have 100 demo accounts and only share the winning one..

i would rather lose money in trading than giving them money
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  • #2,259
  • Jul 24, 2017 6:13pm Jul 24, 2017 6:13pm
Quoting HelloOz
there is alot of people claiming they have the holy grail.. the smartest guy in the room.. maybe they are smart.. but not necessarily they are good traders.. take a look at this guy.. FxTyrant.. he look down on others.. calling people names.. said those who long E/U above 1.13 has stupid written all over it.. but he doesnt look in the mirror.. he shorted at the low.. bought U/Cad at the top.. never ever look at a trader's past performance.. especially demo account.. he/she may have 100 demo accounts and only share the winning one.. i would rather...
all people looking for money doing so, its pure scam, noone with good strategy would need any money. all with bad strategy (most martingale traders ) need others money, to avoid the account killer risk what will come maybe each day, and will come , its only question when.

that near all fake and open many many accounts and only show best account later is normal way, you cant trust people who want that you invest, then they are bad traders from structure, because they dont trust in themself and the strategy and that they can do it by their own. they simple fake story to not have to tell this fact.

"fxtyrant" looks like same scammer like ghostbiker, maybe even same person with other name. they will block in thread many same people, they use same methods, same martingales. looks same stupid or same people. both are loser, or one same loser, they lose even same time. at least both are same clown level and same thiefs/scammer/liar. but maybe they are 2 different persons, losing strategies are often used, so possible 2 losers find same losing way. skill level looks same low at least and scamming to kill peoples money is same style. .
  • #2,260
  • Jul 24, 2017 8:21pm Jul 24, 2017 8:21pm
Quoting dukas_trader
{quote} all people looking for money doing so, its pure scam, noone with good strategy would need any money. all with bad strategy (most martingale traders ) need others money, to avoid the account killer risk what will come maybe each day, and will come , its only question when. that near all fake and open many many accounts and only show best account later is normal way, you cant trust people who want that you invest, then they are bad traders from structure, because they dont trust in themself and the strategy and that they can do it by their...
we may not be smart traders.. but we can be smart people.. dont get fooled by people selling systems on forums..
especially that only show demo TE.. and claim that their real account is more profitable.. or different account has different risk..
and that trader is not trading full time / still working in normal jobs / live with parents..
all bullshit
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