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  • #81
  • Jul 19, 2017 1:08pm Jul 19, 2017 1:08pm
Mission: Impossible

I'm a little bit blocked by the current open trades. I can have a few more open trades once but I am keeping the option open for the moment.

My main concern is the AUDUSD trade that looks to be going in the tonight's AUD news. There was a moment when the trade was profitable but too risky to close it as the profit was very small. Same thing on EURUSD.
My second concern is that Future Simulator has a trade on AUDUSD, opened today and still not closed. The current loss is small but my latest observations are saying
that after a certain loss the trade is completely wrong and the pair will go in the other direction. Currently is not losing enough to validate my thoughts.

I have a hope that second concern is wrong because this morning Future Simulator was updated with a new set of changes to initiate trades and this trade was initiated by one of them.

The current loss is small, 45 pips, I could hedge it to pass the news but doing so I will remove the chance of being in the right direction.
  • #82
  • Jul 24, 2017 1:03pm Jul 24, 2017 1:03pm
So far it looks like the only trend I am following is the wrong one, the profit being in the other direction...
  • #83
  • Jul 26, 2017 3:56pm Jul 26, 2017 3:56pm
Quoting Neptun
So far it looks like the only trend I am following is the wrong one, the profit being in the other direction...
The trades that are currently open are my manual trades, I let no space for the system to trade. It's quite simple to know where a pairs will be going once I open a trade on it ...
  • #84
  • Aug 3, 2017 3:54pm Aug 3, 2017 3:54pm
Mission: Impossible

Something about the closed trades:
- when a trade is closed with tiny profit it means that I wanted to be out of it no matter what, even if it started to be profitable. Why? Because there is another loosing trend to jump in ... or at least like that it was so far.
- when a trade is closed with bigger profit, I followed the trend, profit was enough and I was ready to let it go for other trade ... you can figure it out why king of trade ...

I am currently blocked with the loosing trades. I might open a few more trades at a time or trade the same pair the other way.
  • #85
  • Aug 11, 2017 12:37pm Aug 11, 2017 12:37pm
How far I'll go? thread is out, too many threads for few words. The story will continue here, a small old thread summary:

Reason of my trading?
It starts as a thing to keep me busy during the week and continues with an endless list of contradictory reasons.
  • #86
  • Aug 11, 2017 12:46pm Aug 11, 2017 12:46pm
The Future Simulator thread got binned too ... weird! I asked a revert as it is not my wish.
  • #87
  • Aug 13, 2017 10:18am Aug 13, 2017 10:18am
Quoting Neptun
The Future Simulator thread got binned too ... weird! I asked a revert as it is not my wish.
I wrote to FF to ignore my last request regarding the clean-up issue on Future Simulator thread ... is better like this.
  • #88
  • Aug 13, 2017 10:34am Aug 13, 2017 10:34am
The account has an impressive x%+ growth since restart (ie 4.4 eur deposit). Equity not sufficient to go to the cinema but is enough to have popcorn for all the family while watching the movie at home.

Maybe I should set a custom start, make the money private and give the dreamers hope to trade with me, to make those x..x% in a day or so, ... hey! it survived a day, should it be another day we'll all make a queue at the Ferrari shop!

A group of new money just came to the 'How far I'll go?' account (ie deposit 200 eur) for a small trading internship with hands-on sessions. It was intended to be limited for only 100 eur but due to the high requests the number of places got doubled.
  • #89
  • Aug 13, 2017 11:16am Aug 13, 2017 11:16am
Quoting Neptun
The account has an impressive x%+ growth since restart (ie 4.4 eur deposit). Equity not sufficient to go to the cinema but is enough to have popcorn for all the family while watching the movie at home. Maybe I should set a custom start, make the money private and give the dreamers hope to trade with me, to make those x..x% in a day or so, ... hey! it survived a day, should it be another day we'll all make a queue at the Ferrari shop! A group of new money just came to the 'How far I'll go?' account (ie deposit 200 eur) for a small trading internship...
LOL @ cinema.
i think it is about my previous comments...not that i will change them.
i still believe serious trading start when one dont want to take the risk oh high drawdown anymore, and same time have a balance that corresponds with it.
no need for ferrari, but if one can without much disturbance lose 2000$, then the account should be higher than that, until it feels both painful to lose, and hard to replace the lost account enough that helps to resist the blowing up all-in temptations.
(the rest though surely not referring me, as i dont have custom start.)

anyway, whatever you do good luck with it, as long as suits you and you feel you are getting the results you want to see.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #90
  • Aug 13, 2017 2:18pm Aug 13, 2017 2:18pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} LOL @ cinema. i think it is about my previous comments...not that i will change them. i still believe serious trading start when one dont want to take the risk oh high drawdown anymore, and same time have a balance that corresponds with it. no need for ferrari, but if one can without much disturbance lose 2000$, then the account should be higher than that, until it feels both painful to lose, and hard to replace the lost account enough that helps to resist the blowing up all-in temptations. (the rest though surely not referring me, as i...
The cinema thing is a follow-up of your comment, one that I enjoy it, and the story from the thread I decided to close.
As for the rest, I didn't look to touch someone specifically, it's a general observation on different aspects I see around here.
  • #91
  • Aug 17, 2017 2:47pm Aug 17, 2017 2:47pm
Mission: Impossible

Was the EURCAD pair waiting for me to go out of it? probably yes since it was so enthusiastic to make a drop immediately after I was out with barely zero profit.
I am glad to be out of it not only because a new loosing trend was waiting for me but I look to have less pairs exposure. In other words, believe it or not, I have a strategy!

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  • #92
  • Edited 1:42pm Aug 22, 2017 12:33pm | Edited 1:42pm
Many things to write about but my trades don't support my words ...

Quoting Neptun
I have a strategy!
The strategy is simple. I will close the trades when all the trades from a pair is in profit. It will happen before the deadline. I will not open trades few days before the deadline. If one pair get free faster, I will add the volume to the other pair. If no more open trades and the time is with me, I will look for new trades - all available volume in one shot.

Money internship is going well, the new money are learning fast the good and bad things to do while trading. I even had an ice-cream on Friday midnight paid from the profit - I haven't made the withdraw for it yet but I have a note in my mind.

I do some manual trades too and I am surprised to see that my trades are similar with the ones of some trades from here ... no insinuation of something, my trades are private, I might be the one blamed for copy but it does not affect me as I know the reality. For me is surprising as some of the trade are coming to my mind from nothing ... it just happens that I get an idea in my mind, I explore it, act on it, later on I see same trade on other one ... it's sort of a brain connectivity ... don't forget that trading is not my main activity.

I don't like the limitations I have due to the Commercial status as I would like to write in others threads too ... I should have RTFM before going commercial ... OK, the solution might be to have a different user account ...
  • #93
  • Aug 23, 2017 1:09pm Aug 23, 2017 1:09pm
On Future Simulator account I paid so far 744eur commission due to ECN account and got back from rebates 200usd and from swap 170eur.

My latest challenge idea that came to my mind say to cover the commission from swap.

Wednesday is a good day to profit from the swap. So far the most profitable swap pairs I am holding over night with bigger volume are: EURUSD, EURSGD and EURNZD.
eg: EURSGD pays ~30e / week / 1 lot, EURNZD 1/3 more.

I know, this type of challenges are typical for the times when profit is not delivered but it's a different trading perspective to look at for diversity.
  • #94
  • Aug 23, 2017 1:39pm Aug 23, 2017 1:39pm
I don't do trade predictions for simple reasons, in fact none of my posts (last year) are having a single trade prediction, but it's time for a change:
-in less than 1h eurusd current @ 1.1813 will touch 1.1805 and will fall hard and as a max it might touch 1.1820/+10.
  • #95
  • Aug 23, 2017 2:09pm Aug 23, 2017 2:09pm
Quoting Neptun
I don't do trade predictions for simple reasons, in fact none of my posts (last year) are having a single trade prediction, but it's time for a change: -in less than 1h eurusd current @ 1.1813 will touch 1.1805 and will fall hard and as a max it might touch 1.1820/+10.
in @1.1818, should it print 1.1840 in due time, I might add one more trade (+20 was initial post after I edit to +10)
  • #96
  • Aug 23, 2017 2:24pm Aug 23, 2017 2:24pm
Quoting Neptun
I don't do trade predictions for simple reasons, in fact none of my posts (last year) are having a single trade prediction, but it's time for a change: -in less than 1h eurusd current @ 1.1813 will touch 1.1805 and will fall hard and as a max it might touch 1.1820/+10.
'fall hard' is no so intelligible? first step drop to 1.1753/-10.
  • #97
  • Aug 23, 2017 3:53pm Aug 23, 2017 3:53pm
Quoting Neptun
I don't do trade predictions for simple reasons, in fact none of my posts (last year) are having a single trade prediction, but it's time for a change: -in less than 1h eurusd current @ 1.1813 will touch 1.1805 and will fall hard and as a max it might touch 1.1820/+10.
1h delay and it's @ 1.1806, ... honestly, this pair is really shy!
  • #98
  • Aug 23, 2017 4:52pm Aug 23, 2017 4:52pm
Quoting Neptun
{quote} 1h delay and it's @ 1.1806
it might be that I am messing with the summer/winter time ... typical excuses on failure, it's still glued @ 1.1808, be it supper glue it will be removed soon

Now?: bird in hand vs wait to take the trend

More than 1.1815 -> back to the cage.
Less than 1.1802 -> drop, yeee!

seriously, now it's a pattern change, (me say algorithmic trading failure/removal, but is me), or your other fancy reason ... in 7.5h (+/- Xh time calculation issues ... @ London open - 1h?) will station @ 1.1799
  • #99
  • Aug 23, 2017 5:09pm Aug 23, 2017 5:09pm
Quoting Neptun
{quote}More than 1.1815 -> back to the cage.
Last door open to the cage stays open for 1h and is @ 1.1819
Being back to the cage it might have serious issues to do it's trip to the already mentioned station ... (1.19 might be in the cards ... just because I made too many times the typo of 9 instead of 8).
  • #100
  • Aug 23, 2017 6:37pm Aug 23, 2017 6:37pm
Quoting Neptun
{quote} Last door open to the cage stays open for 1h and is @ 1.1819
Ding dong, ding dong
Please let me in
Ding dong, ding dong
Open the door, it's me, eurusd

... harder and harder to go in.

Quoting Neptun
{quote} Now?: bird in hand vs wait to take the trend
I go for the trend, fed up to eat the same meet.
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