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  • #6,761
  • Jul 15, 2017 2:09pm Jul 15, 2017 2:09pm
Quoting jarhead
{quote} And that is why delta is a useless bed-wetting piece of s**t. Unfortunately the only way you can deal with leftest scumbags is to give them a good dose of their own medicine -- but you make it much more bitter and vile. They love dishing it out but go nuts when ya give it back to them.
Have you noticed that he got off scot free for calling me racist, but Magog got suspended for sticking up for me?
  • #6,762
  • Jul 15, 2017 2:14pm Jul 15, 2017 2:14pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Only issue is David Davis has indicated a softening to his stance. As Nige says Brexit is Brexit, none of this hard and soft crap.
The aim of the GE from the Tories' goal was to lose seats. That manifesto was beyond dumb. So now they have the perfect excuse to go for a soft Brexit. Soft Brexit or remain, I find it hard to tell the bloody difference. We have been royally stitched up. I never trusted May. Seems that my instincts were correct.
  • #6,763
  • Jul 15, 2017 8:31pm Jul 15, 2017 8:31pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Sounds interesting!
have a go, seriously, you can more than double your account in a week.
  • #6,764
  • Jul 16, 2017 3:12am Jul 16, 2017 3:12am
What is wrong with these statements in their entirety? No further context.

"No blockage, it's called verbal diarrhoea."

"Those who throw vicious, unsubstantiated insults prove themselves to be truly nasty pieces of work."

Which rule did these break? I did not refer to any person. Like traffic wardens here. But at least when you get a ticket, you have the right to appeal and they have to justify themselves. This place is a fucking joke.
  • #6,765
  • Jul 16, 2017 4:07am Jul 16, 2017 4:07am
Quoting jen101
{quote} The aim of the GE from the Tories' goal was to lose seats. That manifesto was beyond dumb. So now they have the perfect excuse to go for a soft Brexit. Soft Brexit or remain, I find it hard to tell the bloody difference. We have been royally stitched up. I never trusted May. Seems that my instincts were correct.
https://youtu.be/V0a7Zhkr6dY
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,766
  • Jul 16, 2017 4:10am Jul 16, 2017 4:10am
Quoting GDR3k
{quote} have a go, seriously, you can more than double your account in a week.
I looked a while back but the brokers looked seriously flakey. If you don't want an advertising strike PM who ya use and will check it out. Cheers
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,767
  • Jul 16, 2017 4:13am Jul 16, 2017 4:13am
Quoting jen101
What is wrong with these statements in their entirety? No further context. "No blockage, it's called verbal diarrhoea." "Those who throw vicious, unsubstantiated insults prove themselves to be truly nasty pieces of work." Which rule did these break? I did not refer to any person. Like traffic wardens here. But at least when you get a ticket, you have the right to appeal and they have to justify themselves. This place is a fucking joke.
Responding in the news threads gives a feeling of banging your head against the wall.
It's like a loaded dice in there I'm afraid.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,768
  • Jul 16, 2017 9:48am Jul 16, 2017 9:48am
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} all of those things increase your odds, but you still need 21 feet to accurately draw and aim weapon and you still have to address the scenario training(which maybe you do) but also the adrenal stress training i.e. firing a weapon when your life is on the line...perhaps you do, just pointing this out, as many including law enforcement entirely miss this aspect which is why many will miss when they draw their weapon or empty their weapon without hitting anything.... But the 21 foot rule is big.....
The easiest way to avoid that is not put yourself into a situation that may result in a 21 ft rule fail. Also, the 21 ft rule never takes into account that instead of staying in a static position you can and should move if the threat is too close. I call too close as being less than 50 ft.

An issue I always had with martial arts is that most do not train against people with weapons. This is what I mean by learn enough to be dangerous to myself.

In either case, one needs to train to as high a degree as possible while maintaining a safe training environment.

I am not disagreeing with you, I am simply pointing out some things I have learned.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #6,769
  • Jul 16, 2017 9:52am Jul 16, 2017 9:52am
Quoting jen101
What is wrong with these statements in their entirety? No further context. "No blockage, it's called verbal diarrhoea." "Those who throw vicious, unsubstantiated insults prove themselves to be truly nasty pieces of work." Which rule did these break? I did not refer to any person. Like traffic wardens here. But at least when you get a ticket, you have the right to appeal and they have to justify themselves. This place is a fucking joke.
No rules broken other than the cry babies making a complaint. Seems FF takes the side of the morons.

I also think they have to play PC because this site is available in the EU and other jurisdictions that tend to frown on nearly everything said against the state. So, as fakebook and other social media does they will stifle your speech if it even sounds as if it may be PC while allowing the vitriol of the left/statists to continue freely.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #6,770
  • Jul 16, 2017 10:01am Jul 16, 2017 10:01am
Quoting spzd
{quote} The easiest way to avoid that is not put yourself into a situation that may result in a 21 ft rule fail. Also, the 21 ft rule never takes into account that instead of staying in a static position you can and should move if the threat is too close. I call too close as being less than 50 ft. An issue I always had with martial arts is that most do not train against people with weapons. This is what I mean by learn enough to be dangerous to myself. In either case, one needs to train to as high a degree as possible while maintaining a safe training...
Well, you trained in the wrong martial arts my friend. I train people for blunt weapons(clubs, etc), edge weapons(knife, etc) and projectile weapons(firearms, etc).

I agree you can move, but you have to train for it and under adrenal stress. Try running backwards and draw your weapon for example...Even simply moving and drawing a weapon introduces many variables....

For self defense purposes 21 feet is hard rule. I think it would be difficult if not impossible to eliminate all situations in which a threat will be within 21 feet. Believe I am vigilant and aware, I check out body language of everyone, do not let people stand or walk behind me, always sit with back to wall and eyes on the door, but there are many scenarios in which you can not control distance, etc. Sometimes, the person does not pose a threat until they are very close.

Also, to even draw your weapon you have to able to justify an imminent deadly threat in most states. Or at least credible threat of serious bodily injury.

So, cc is good step. Just pointing out you still may need hand to hand skills in most instances.
The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
  • #6,771
  • Jul 16, 2017 10:10am Jul 16, 2017 10:10am
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Well, you trained in the wrong martial arts my friend. I train people for blunt weapons(clubs, etc), edge weapons(knife, etc) and projectile weapons(firearms, etc). I agree you can move, but you have to train for it and under adrenal stress. Try running backwards and draw your weapon for example...Even simply moving and drawing a weapon introduces many variables.... For self defense purposes 21 feet is hard rule. I think it would be difficult if not impossible to eliminate all situations in which a threat will be within 21 feet. Believe...
I do not disagree with. As I stated, pointing out my experience. Have yet to find any self defense instructors in my area that go to that level. If you were near me Mr Scott I would gladly partake in your instruction. If you know of any in NE TN (Tri Cities area) please let me know.

I am ex combat arms Army so I do have some decent firearms training. Have also continued with it over the years.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #6,772
  • Jul 16, 2017 10:29am Jul 16, 2017 10:29am
Quoting spzd
{quote} I do not disagree with. As I stated, pointing out my experience. Have yet to find any self defense instructors in my area that go to that level. If you were near me Mr Scott I would gladly partake in your instruction. If you know of any in NE TN (Tri Cities area) please let me know. I am ex combat arms Army so I do have some decent firearms training. Have also continued with it over the years.
Sorry can not say that I do, had training partner of mine who moved to Tennessee and looked at every school within 15 miles, decided to simply just train on his own since he was so disappointed in what was available. Like anything, good ones are hard to find.

Not saying they do not exist, just excellence in any endeavor is rare. Good luck in your search. I would say check them out and ask specifically about what you are looking for, for example, weapons defenses. Observe their top level adult class to get a gauge as to the skills taught.

Sounds like you have the firearms training under control, glad to hear it. We need more well trained good guys.
The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
  • #6,773
  • Jul 16, 2017 12:11pm Jul 16, 2017 12:11pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Sorry can not say that I do, had training partner of mine who moved to Tennessee and looked at every school within 15 miles, decided to simply just train on his own since he was so disappointed in what was available. Like anything, good ones are hard to find. Not saying they do not exist, just excellence in any endeavor is rare. Good luck in your search. I would say check them out and ask specifically about what you are looking for, for example, weapons defenses. Observe their top level adult class to get a gauge as to the skills taught....
Trained in martial in service and couple years after. Nowhere near the skill lever of you and Stu. Bounced couple years to make ends meet while in school. Total confidence and constant training served me well as no scuffle ever went to plan. When someone pulls out a weapon, be it a pistol or knife -- ya better have a immediate plan of action. Seems while back you mentioned the importance of confidence.
Defending Truth, Capitalism and the US Constitution
  • #6,774
  • Jul 16, 2017 2:17pm Jul 16, 2017 2:17pm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/11/salzburg-bans-pork-kindergartens-accommodate-muslim-children/

https://youtu.be/_5oSYlUoI2M
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  • #6,775
  • Jul 16, 2017 3:58pm Jul 16, 2017 3:58pm
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This past week, our congress voted to allocate 3.7 billion for gender re-assignment. 24 republicans were included in the yes vote. Meanwhile equipment is falling apart and veterans can't get decent care at VA hospitals. Just makes you wonder if we've already gone over the cliff and waiting for the thud.
Defending Truth, Capitalism and the US Constitution
  • #6,776
  • Jul 16, 2017 4:15pm Jul 16, 2017 4:15pm
Quoting jarhead
{image} This past week, our congress voted to allocate 3.7 billion for gender re-assignment. 24 republicans were included in the yes vote. Meanwhile equipment is falling apart and veterans can't get decent care at VA hospitals. Just makes you wonder if we've already gone over the cliff and waiting for the thud.

Same crap here mate.

https://youtu.be/njj84ZWfNjA
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,777
  • Jul 16, 2017 5:48pm Jul 16, 2017 5:48pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Well, you trained in the wrong martial arts my friend. I train people for blunt weapons(clubs, etc), edge weapons(knife, etc) and projectile weapons(firearms, etc). I agree you can move, but you have to train for it and under adrenal stress. Try running backwards and draw your weapon for example...Even simply moving and drawing a weapon introduces many variables.... For self defense purposes 21 feet is hard rule. I think it would be difficult if not impossible to eliminate all situations in which a threat will be within 21 feet. Believe...
Everyone is aware of adrenal stress, fight or flight. Unfortunately, most people will simply break down or freeze under extreme stress. That is why it is imperative to engage in adrenal stress training and conditioning. Also, you lose all of your fine motor skills and most of you gross motor skills which is why muscle memory is so important.

You will experience tunnel vision, the inability to focus, auditory exclusion, memory loss or blurred or fake memories, loss of depth perception(failure to hit target) and loss of peripheral vision.

Irony is highly and properly trained person can use it to their advantage and increase speed and power of response.
Also, you will have a significant increase in the amount of damage you can sustain and it is likely you will not feel any pain until after the encounter. However, your opponent is also under adrenal stress so you will need attitude interrupters to negate their attack.

http://www.leavenworthtimes.com/article/20150423/OPINION/150429696
The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
  • #6,778
  • Jul 16, 2017 10:53pm Jul 16, 2017 10:53pm
Quoting jarhead
{quote} And that is why delta is a useless bed-wetting piece of s**t. Unfortunately the only way you can deal with leftest scumbags is to give them a good dose of their own medicine -- but you make it much more bitter and vile. They love dishing it out but go nuts when ya give it back to them.
I disagree

The way to deal with this idiot (https://www.forexfactory.com/deltaone) is to put him or her on ignore, and if you feel a need to read any outpourings which result in feelings of pique simply submit a CoC request.
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  • #6,779
  • Jul 16, 2017 11:03pm Jul 16, 2017 11:03pm
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} Think ..... he should have checked out couple of photo's I posted and realised I don't need to scam anyone but you can't fix stupid.
The truth of this statement should never be understated.
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  • #6,780
  • Jul 16, 2017 11:06pm Jul 16, 2017 11:06pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Have you noticed that he got off scot free for calling me racist....
Did you complain to Twee or anybody?
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