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  • #152,821
  • Jul 6, 2017 8:14am Jul 6, 2017 8:14am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i explained it.. i just watched the closes.. if the closes are higher, i can't call that bearish. The closes being higher or lower take out any bias.. they are measurable..black and white. less grey area. when it hits R it may change. 1459 ish is R.. it will break or it will not.. earlier this week it retraced a candle..
Funny, just last week I though "ah, finally I started to understand Gator".... It appears I have way too much to learn. Do you mind elaborating on this last comment? if you have time of course

For example, which closes, D1,W1, ... in one of your comments you mentioned M30 closes and it was during the Asian session.
  • #152,822
  • Jul 6, 2017 8:59am Jul 6, 2017 8:59am
Quoting ws121
{quote} Funny, just last week I though "ah, finally I started to understand Gator".... It appears I have way too much to learn. Do you mind elaborating on this last comment? if you have time of course For example, which closes, D1,W1, ... in one of your comments you mentioned M30 closes and it was during the Asian session.
the week month ect, have been closed higher, all bullish. yesterday was a lower close. but it started closing above 1335 close.. after a small bear was reached at 1338.. it also hasn't reached 1459. then ny rolled above 1335. after that the 12h past L roll rolled above 1335. it is hard for me to be bearish with that momentum. once ny and the 12 closed above 1335, 1378 was almost a gimme,,. so i posted those as they happened. with pros and cons..

pros and cons in the 1459 area here too.. momentum up, all looks bullish... but R could stop it all or not.. it dont take much to bring back 1.0900, even if this current move was to continue after.
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  • #152,823
  • Jul 6, 2017 9:17am Jul 6, 2017 9:17am
the 11xx/17xx window had a target sub 1.0 .. so if that window we are currently in develops.. 0.93 handle is a target. if not, still a good chance whenever it tires, it would have decent retrace.
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  • #152,824
  • Jul 6, 2017 9:31am Jul 6, 2017 9:31am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} the week month ect, have been closed higher, all bullish. yesterday was a lower close. but it started closing above 1335 close.. after a small bear was reached at 1338.. it also hasn't reached 1459. then ny rolled above 1335. after that the 12h past L roll rolled above 1335. it is hard for me to be bearish with that momentum. once ny and the 12 closed above 1335, 1378 was almost a gimme,,. so i posted those as they happened. with pros and cons.. pros and cons in the 1459 area here too.. momentum up, all looks bullish... but R could stop...
thanks mate... started making more sense now. Appreciate it
  • #152,825
  • Edited 11:13am Jul 6, 2017 10:29am | Edited 11:13am
Quoting gatorinla
the 11xx/17xx window had a target sub 1.0 .. so if that window we are currently in develops.. 0.93 handle is a target. if not, still a good chance whenever it tires, it would have decent retrace. {image}
I have a question, will the weekly candle be ended with a doji(which means it will make a HH then drop back to below the weekly opening at 1416 that means the bearish weeks will be following?). In other way, if weekly candle close above 1416 and also above 1445 which means it is still bullish and heading up to 15xx, 16xx or higher.
Am I right?

Edited: Can you help me to get a FIB draw down with its prices on it like yours instead of only the percentages)? Newbie question me think !!
Ty !
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  • #152,826
  • Jul 6, 2017 10:35am Jul 6, 2017 10:35am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} from yesterday, anything above 1335 on the bull side in today's L roll. tomorrow is Friday with a NFP release. above 1409 or 1417 on London and Ny close should be bullish.. but the question is.. is it bullish into 145x resistance, with enough strength to hold.. or will it be rejected? momentum wise this along with day, week, month, 1/4, 1/2 would be bullish... that's strong signals.. but it dont mean R will break.. but it is likely to be tested.
no L roll above 1409 or 1417... for thursday.. still bullish, still above 1335. above 1409 would have been better. tomorrow counts. some R expected 1409/17 and 145x
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  • #152,827
  • Jul 6, 2017 11:03am Jul 6, 2017 11:03am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} no L roll above 1409 or 1417... for thursday.. still bullish, still above 1335. above 1409 would have been better. tomorrow counts. some R expected 1409/17 and 145x
above 1405 closes on day still with bulls.. it's so close to 1409 and 1417.. they may be a better indicator.. 1409 is being teased atm,, it is a R strength if any unknown,, it's a big deal for tomorrow's closing.. being above may be bullish, but into 145x may be R
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  • #152,828
  • Jul 6, 2017 1:58pm Jul 6, 2017 1:58pm
Quoting Angelina
{quote} I have a question, will the weekly candle be ended with a doji(which means it will make a HH then drop back to below the weekly opening at 1416 that means the bearish weeks will be following?). In other way, if weekly candle close above 1416 and also above 1445 which means it is still bullish and heading up to 15xx, 16xx or higher. Am I right? Edited: Can you help me to get a FIB draw down with its prices on it like yours instead of only the percentages)? Newbie question me think !! Ty ! {image}
your chart... has a LL the current bounce is getting toward R in the 17xx right top.. of a DT.. the LL broke a DB
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  • #152,829
  • Edited 7:09pm Jul 6, 2017 5:10pm | Edited 7:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} your chart... has a LL the current bounce is getting toward R in the 17xx right top.. of a DT.. the LL broke a DB {image}
I got it ! ty!
Hope that we can catch the top and hold our short for 2-3 months until sub 1.
Could be just below 17xx but dont know where and when
Are you planing to short and hold for months also Gator?
scalping is quick in and out but I would love holding the short trade with roll over rate for months hihi
Since I trade only 1 EURUSD so just patience and wait until I see a good chance than!
Are you still pending order @ 1459(15)?
  • #152,830
  • Jul 6, 2017 7:24pm Jul 6, 2017 7:24pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} above 1405 closes on day still with bulls.. it's so close to 1409 and 1417.. they may be a better indicator.. 1409 is being teased atm,, it is a R strength if any unknown,, it's a big deal for tomorrow's closing.. being above may be bullish, but into 145x may be R
NY closed above. week ends tomorrow.
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  • #152,831
  • Jul 6, 2017 7:45pm Jul 6, 2017 7:45pm
Quoting Angelina
{quote} I got it ! ty! Hope that we can catch the top and hold our short for 2-3 months until sub 1. Could be just below 17xx but dont know where and when Are you planing to short and hold for months also Gator? scalping is quick in and out but I would love holding the short trade with roll over rate for months hihi Since I trade only 1 EURUSD so just patience and wait until I see a good chance than! Are you still pending order @ 1459(15)?
you got it? does it hurt? what did doc say? jk
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  • #152,832
  • Jul 6, 2017 7:45pm Jul 6, 2017 7:45pm
Quoting Angelina
{quote} I got it ! ty! Hope that we can catch the top and hold our short for 2-3 months until sub 1. Could be just below 17xx but dont know where and when Are you planing to short and hold for months also Gator? scalping is quick in and out but I would love holding the short trade with roll over rate for months hihi Since I trade only 1 EURUSD so just patience and wait until I see a good chance than! Are you still pending order @ 1459(15)?
yeah, i think some R is here atm or 1459 ish... now it's at 1414.. it may bounce or not 1409... some s/r 1409/1417 to me... the est day managed to close above at 1422.. nfp regardless of good or bad for usd, it may have the 1.089x attraction.. its midpoint from 1.1459 and 1.0575 ish low. a stumble of bulls here should bring a normal retrace.. further out it's in the 11xx/17xx window that targets 0.93xx.. that's why i am looking for clues.. 145x or even now is not a bad place to look,, i suspect after nfp it may clear up some.. i believe oil is going to 40$ or less after the current dead cat bounce. workers here where i live are seeing some signs already.

with a oil correction. unemployment may tic up some. its hard to have much inflation if oils drops. both of these keep me from being "all in" on a eu drop atm. makes it harder for fed to raise again.. so i am cautiously looking on the chart for a good spot in this 11xx/17xx window. that R at 145x and even where we are atm is suspect.. i will take that shot for 15 pips
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  • #152,833
  • Jul 6, 2017 9:15pm Jul 6, 2017 9:15pm
testing 1409 atm.. in a little more than an h, being above 1405 with a close is not bearish to me. even better is above 1409 or 1417 or 1422.. then 12 h beyond even better.
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  • #152,834
  • Jul 6, 2017 9:29pm Jul 6, 2017 9:29pm
Quoting gatorinla
testing 1409 atm.. in a little more than an h, being above 1405 with a close is not bearish to me. even better is above 1409 or 1417 or 1422.. then 12 h beyond even better.
Gator Ej is here at 129.8x, are you watching for shorts yet?
  • #152,835
  • Jul 6, 2017 10:34pm Jul 6, 2017 10:34pm
Quoting gatorinla
testing 1409 atm.. in a little more than an h, being above 1405 with a close is not bearish to me. even better is above 1409 or 1417 or 1422.. then 12 h beyond even better.
12 h above 1405 and 1409...at 1413.. NFP coming, but this 1413 close was not bearish.. but 145x may be R
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  • #152,836
  • Jul 6, 2017 10:42pm Jul 6, 2017 10:42pm
Quoting edyraper
{quote} Gator Ej is here at 129.8x, are you watching for shorts yet?
yeah.. i got a little one 129.75... .. but i do see a possible 130.48 ... 129.64 i know u were looking for..
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  • #152,837
  • Jul 6, 2017 10:54pm Jul 6, 2017 10:54pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} yeah.. i got a little one 129.75... .. but i do see a possible 130.48 ... 129.64 i know u were looking for..
I got s/o on first try... Looking for entry closely. I like your 130.48 also. And congrats on your 129.75 entry.
  • #152,838
  • Jul 7, 2017 7:38am Jul 7, 2017 7:38am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} 12 h above 1405 and 1409...at 1413.. NFP coming, but this 1413 close was not bearish.. but 145x may be R
Do you think with this market behavior and response to data, it's time to choose short positioning?
  • #152,839
  • Jul 7, 2017 7:38am Jul 7, 2017 7:38am
i sold a few 1433,, i dont know about 145x.. being reached. i have it a R so my stops r above 147x
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  • #152,840
  • Jul 7, 2017 7:40am Jul 7, 2017 7:40am
Quoting ws121
{quote} Do you think with this market behavior and response to data, it's time to choose short positioning?
i started.. to your question. i dont know. i am playing as is 1459 ish is R, and 1.09 is an attraction for now..

ps.. i may be full of shit. i went out on a limb.. first i need next hour to close below 1305
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