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  • #6,241
  • Edited 11:13am Jul 5, 2017 8:39am | Edited 11:13am
Quoting jarhead
{quote} I think it will happen at sometime in the not too distant future. The world's liberals love to tell us bout the gun murders in the US. Fact is if you take the gang killings out of the mix the number is drastically decreased. Also the great majority of murders are in democratically run states and cities that have the toughest gun laws in the country. Miss-information about weapons is rampant. Our president is quickly changing that dimension. Tweet your heart out, Mr. President!!
sorry for the late reply i have been busy

Q,I think it will happen at sometime in the not too distant future
i honestly do not see that happening in my life time to many people here with good intentions do not want to see gun laws loosened's over here you can still own gun's but you have to have a licence and it's very hard to get a licence for a gun it's mostly shotguns that people get licences for i have a mate from the countryside and i saw a gun shop there and was shocked i did not even know we had things like that in the UK i have also seen the West London gun range but thing's like that are rare in the UK i think the West London gun range has changed it's name but it's the bottom link.the websites will give you a idea as to how different our gun's are to yours no real hand gun industry and as far as i know you will not get a licence for anything like a automatic assault riflet also i think guns here cost a lot more than abroad because of taxes

https://www.whittleseygunshop.co.uk/

https://shopforshooting.co.uk/
  • #6,242
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:05am Jul 5, 2017 9:05am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} sorry for the late reply i have be busy Q,I think it will happen at sometime in the not too distant future i honestly do not see that happening in my life time to many people here with good intentions do not want to see gun laws loosened's over here you can still own gun's but you have to have a licence and it's very hard to get a licence for a gun it's mostly shotguns that people get licences for i have a mate from the countryside and i saw a gun shop there and was shocked i did not even know we had things like that in the UK i have also...
Our gun laws are just right, for us. Police may need to be more armed though.
  • #6,243
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:25am Jul 5, 2017 9:25am
Quoting Magog
This is worth a read if you have the time - explains the how but not the why - Soros seems to be heavily involved https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/26395-eu-refugee-tsunami-3-0-globalist-summit-calls-for-more-migration
Do you think it is his method of getting retribution for the Nazi treatment of Jews in WW2
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  • #6,244
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:31am Jul 5, 2017 9:31am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Wow, is the N word still used in America?!
Of course! Rumsfeld was always threatening to Nuke somebody.....
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  • #6,245
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:46am Jul 5, 2017 9:46am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Our gun laws are just right, for us. Police may need to be more armed though.
I used to think that too but my mind is changing. It's clear in the US that recent administrations have had an agenda over their 2nd amendment and I honestly don't think it was with the intention of wanting more protection for decent law abiding citizens.
TPTB in US have the dillema that a lot of law abiding citizens do have that right to bear arms and that makes them difficult to control. In what situations do law abiding citizens need controlling ? Only perhaps when they rebel against corruption and injustice,
then perhaps their arms are seen as a great leveller. With or without gun laws the bad guys will still get them.

I think I am leaning on the side of wanting to be a legal have than an easy target (have not). Fact is in our country if you make the correct enquiries you can easily obtain an illegal firearm, law abiding citizens don't bother which leaves, the military, the militarised police force (advancing ) and the crims holding all the cards and the decent law abiding citizens don't have a leveller of our own.
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  • #6,246
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:55am Jul 5, 2017 9:55am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Of course! Rumsfeld was always threatening to Nuke somebody.....
Good comeback!!
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  • #6,247
  • Jul 5, 2017 10:27am Jul 5, 2017 10:27am
https://youtu.be/UzIkCTKxPWI
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  • #6,248
  • Jul 5, 2017 10:33am Jul 5, 2017 10:33am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Do you think it is his method of getting retribution for the Nazi treatment of Jews in WW2
Nah, it's the NWO greater Israel project - divide and conquer
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  • #6,249
  • Jul 5, 2017 10:35am Jul 5, 2017 10:35am
Let me attempt to give the lowdown on guns in the US. As we and Australia were probably the last large areas to be colonized and "civilized" we have conditions unique to the two nations. For the first 200 or so years of our existence, a gun was needed simply for existence. The frontiersmen were famous for their marksmanship -- it provided protection and food on the table. It is a tradition passed from generation to generation. My moms dad -- my grandfather who was a veteran of trench warfare and gas attacks in WWI taught me to hunt squirrels with a .22 rifle. No dogs -- just sit and wait for a shot. My grandmother made a excellent squirrel stew with homage biscuits. To my knowledge, no one in my family hunts for sport. My dad, a WWII vet and excellent marksman taught me shoot'in by shooting the ashes off his cigarette at 30 yds or so. This started when I was about 7. Both men lectured me each time we went shooting that a .22 round would kill a man at 1 mile and never point a gun at anything except a target or something you intended to kill. I spent four years in the Marines. Old Corps! No happy horse s##t or political correctness. Marines were created to kill our enemies and break things. When I got out, I had no desire to hold another weapon. I own several pistols I inherited from family members. I bought the redhead (wife) one she could easily handle, a .38 S&W hammer-less. As I saw our culture deteriorate starting in earnest during the Clinton years, I bought 2 weapons -- a AR 15 couple years ago and a short barrel 12ga pump action shotgun bout 20 years ago. Though I practice and have taught my family to handle guns -- I don't enjoy shooting and hope to God I never have to use one in defense again. Though I have a conceal license, I never carry one on my person. One always close though. I prefer a small fighting knife that's almost always on my leg or in waistband.

We do have our share of crazies and criminals. They are the result of socialism and mostly democrat policies. They promote hate for the police, our military and most of the American traditions we hold dear. Most of the crime and senseless killings are in democrat controlled areas. There are exceptions, of course -- such as the Charleston church killings. What didn't get much coverage was how the black and whites came together in mutual comfort.

Guns are interwoven in our history. It represents freedom. I was born free and I will die free -- hopefully without a gun in my hand. The socialist in our country would love to disarm us. We are aware of that. They know how many of us are out here -- and frankly, it scares the hell out of them.

Trust me on this -- the great majority of Americans feel the same way I do -- they rarely think bout guns -- just when some jackass threatens to take them away.
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  • #6,250
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:12am Jul 5, 2017 11:12am
Quoting jarhead
Let me attempt to give the lowdown on guns in the US. As we and Australia were probably the last large areas to be colonized and "civilized" we have conditions unique to the two nations. For the first 200 or so years of our existence, a gun was needed simply for existence. The frontiersmen were famous for their marksmanship -- it provided protection and food on the table. It is a tradition passed from generation to generation. My moms dad -- my grandfather who was a veteran of trench warfare and gas attacks in WWI taught me to hunt squirrels with...
i think gun's should be legal and licensed but i think citizens should not be allowed semi automatics like a AR 15 you can kill a lot of people with that if your a crazy person. and your history as a country is unique so i think you guys as a consequence should have more losses gun controls your problem is now if you made guns or more powerful gun's illegal all the dicks heads would have them stashed up and the normal people would be sitting ducks for gun crime in the UK guns have not be readily available like in the US so i don't think even our small to medium sized criminals have access to AR 15 and a big criminals wound have no need to own one up until a terrorist attack in France i was on the fence on this one i know 9mm hand guns and shotguns are readily available to UK criminals but the punishment is so harsh am not worry about being the victim of a gun crime why would someone risk so much to rob me and these guns are not that deadly but if just 100 bad guys have access to thing's like AR-15 or any type of assault rifles than i think we should be allowed to have conceal and carry license for small hand guns if just two of three people had them when France got shoot up it could have save lives or when we had some nutter running around the Lake District shooting people because of a dispute with his brother over a will some guns would have save lives on a side note remember Lee Rigby killers there gun did not even work LOL but if they had a AR-15 than we may have had a incident like that crazy one in LA where the criminals had body armour and the police couldn't kill them
  • #6,251
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:18am Jul 5, 2017 11:18am
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  • #6,252
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:22am Jul 5, 2017 11:22am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Wow, is the N word still used in America?!
The one's who get all butthurt over it's use use it more than anyone else.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #6,253
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:29am Jul 5, 2017 11:29am
https://youtu.be/G1h8JYP1qaQ
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  • #6,254
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:31am Jul 5, 2017 11:31am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} i think gun's should be legal and licensed but i think citizens should not be allowed semi automatics like a AR 15 you can kill a lot of people with that if your a crazy person. and your history as a country is unique so i think you guys as a consequence should have more losses gun controls
I would love it if we had a fraction of the guns in the world. I fully appreciate Jen's sentiment. Being a student of history, I know that is impossible. Again. I'm a realist. The less guns the good guys have, the more the bad guys will have. It has appalled me for years to see your cops running around without a pistol strapped to their side. In today's craziness, what good is a cop without a large caliber handgun and the skills to use it? History has taught us somewhere in every generation that an unarmed citizenry will become enslaved by a dictator and some "ism".

On a much larger scale, there are many snowflakes that take this conversation to another level -- if we have nukes, everyone should be allowed to have them. They are clueless that Iran and NK leaders are truly insane. I don't have the answer how to resolve the world's mess. And it is a mess.
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  • #6,255
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:56am Jul 5, 2017 11:56am
I would accept in US would be difficult to disarm ,but no guns is surely best if you start that way ,min 5 years for possession works
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  • #6,256
  • Jul 5, 2017 11:58am Jul 5, 2017 11:58am
Another example of our freedom

https://youtu.be/eMgRB64JX7Q
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  • #6,257
  • Jul 5, 2017 12:38pm Jul 5, 2017 12:38pm
So Sweden know how to deal with Muslim rape gangs they hold a "Man Free" rock concert until men learn how to behave. The BBC and Sweden don't say it is because of Muslim rapes but that is the reality and they don't have the balls to just deal with these neanderthals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40504452
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  • #6,258
  • Jul 5, 2017 1:48pm Jul 5, 2017 1:48pm
It just gets better by the day! The democrats are putting together a bill demanding the "mental fitness" of the president be tested to see if he is fit to govern. Now try to envision this -- ya got people like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and others who have trouble putting together a string of cohesive words to form a complete sentence wanting to test anyone for mental competence. We got a whole pile of "Corbyns". It's called the democrat party.
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  • #6,259
  • Jul 5, 2017 1:57pm Jul 5, 2017 1:57pm
Quoting Bones
I would accept in US would be difficult to disarm ,but no guns is surely best if you start that way ,min 5 years for possession works {image}
I can't seem to find facts on the net quick as in the past. This is from memory. If you took either 3 or 4 states -- or a half dozen cities out of the mix (can't remember which), all democrat controlled -- we would have one of the lowest homicide rates among the industrialized nations.
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  • #6,260
  • Jul 5, 2017 1:58pm Jul 5, 2017 1:58pm
In fact you could scale that argument down ,some people simply should not have a weapon
Im pro having a deterrent but if no one else had nukes i'd be anti
defiantly I don't agree people not having a gun allows more chance of some kind of takeover in the modern world ,thats what the armies for

If I lived in the US i'd have a gun for protection because thats what I'm up against


Quoting jarhead
{quote} if we have nukes, everyone should be allowed to have them. They are clueless that Iran and NK leaders are truly insane. I don't have the answer how to resolve the world's mess. And it is a mess.
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