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  • #57,521
  • Jul 2, 2017 11:53am Jul 2, 2017 11:53am
Thanks very much to all! Your answers help me a lot! Exnav you a very generous!(about russian questions) Thanks Cookie for detailed answer!
  • #57,522
  • Edited 12:57am Jul 3, 2017 12:39am | Edited 12:57am
Quoting protuberanec
Exnav you a very generous!(about russian questions) Thanks Cookie for detailed answer!
Hello Protuberanec,

You are very welcome. Before this week Battlefield is going to open, just a few points:

In fact, all three answers presented by Phil13, CookieMonsta and Alexandria are of value. That of Cookie would be a sort of manual. As well could suggest re-reading last 3 - 4 weeks posts of all involved: Jupiter, Phil13, Alexandria, Pdym, Cookie and others. Actually, you may return to the re-reading several times so to get it better. Also, please don't forget about the Art of War. Then, all will be YOU.

The fact that you have been more than 3 years with Fx and 2 years around the TAF thread and still are in search may be interpreted differently, one may see there a good potential. Presumably, you should not hesitate, go ahead and pose your exact questions after re-reading and practising. If I may, be honest and persistent, disclose your failures (at least to yourself), or share your success way not forgetting about basic safety/ security.

Що важливо: FTI і його послідовники діляться своїми знаннями і досвідом абсолютно безкоштовно (ціною є ваш час і торговий капітал при навчанні). Здатність застосування, вміння залежать від вас самого. Це не інструкція стати багатим швидко, а довгий шлях досягнення фінансової незалежності. Успіхів!

Enjoy the Trading Process and Find Your Way!

Best regards, Exnav

P.S. Edited - manual is a guide. Then we assume full responsibility of our own ship.

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  • #57,523
  • Jul 3, 2017 2:19am Jul 3, 2017 2:19am
Very briefly:

Now is London session. What is economic calendar saying? There is news that might affect G/U behavour before/at/ after 09.30. Who might show hands and when? Real moves and fake ones? How to make your feeling (when to deploy scouts)? What could be contingencies? Has U/J already shown her hands, what about U/CAD?
Etc....

Flow direction in Now: plan (general trend) 50/50 probability, moves 50/50 news 50/50, contingencies... There are so many ingredients. For me, impossible to lead and make hand held. Your knowledge, understanding, skills. Mine, is just Response Reflex on Pulse Feeling in Now (Market flow, Fundamentals, News, pairs bahaviour/ volatility, Force Major are within MO/MM). I see no indicators apart from PA (as below so above). That's why, please accept my apologies... Battle is going to commence.

Best regards, Exnav
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  • #57,524
  • Jul 3, 2017 2:20am Jul 3, 2017 2:20am
Quoting Exnav
{quote} Hello Protuberanec, You are very welcome. Before this week Battlefield is going to open, just a few points: In fact, all three answers presented by Phil13, CookieMonsta and Alexandria are of value. That of Cookie would be a sort of manual. As well could suggest re-reading last 3 - 4 weeks posts of all involved: Jupiter, Phil13, Alexandria, Pdym, Cookie and others. Actually, you may return to the re-reading several times so to get it better. Also, please don't forget about the Art of War. Then, all will be YOU. The fact that you have been...
Дякую Exnav! Ваша українська дуже чудова!
I try trade on FX many year and done many attempts. Sometimes I was frustrated in FX and some methods and gave up! In 2014 I start to lern fti's thread. I hired translator to translate fti document which make priceaction1 of more than 200 first pages of this thread. But translation been inaccurate because translator does not know anything about FX. So I read thread with vocabulary))). Some moments I understand some not. I start trade and have some success! Thanks for you answer and advice!
  • #57,525
  • Jul 3, 2017 2:48am Jul 3, 2017 2:48am
Quoting protuberanec
{quote} I try trade on FX many year and done many attempts. Sometimes I was frustrated in FX and some methods and gave up! In 2014 I start to lern fti's thread. I hired translator to translate fti document which make priceaction1 of more than 200 first pages of this thread. But translation been inaccurate because translator does not know anything about FX. So I read thread with vocabulary))). Some moments I understand some not. I start trade and have some success! Thanks for you answer and advice!
Congratulations with your success!

"translation been inaccurate" - it may mislead you, information must be as accurate and reliable as possible;

"Some moments I understand some not." - why not asking? Hopefully, someone here would graciously come to assist.

Here FTI's reminder:

"Stuff you reading and learning here may be pages long.
In reality, is summarised into split second decision capabilities. If you train internalise it.
is not so difficult really.
But of course if you want , you can make it difficult for your mind.
and you will never experience the power of it.
But every journey begins with 1 step. and going 1 setp at a time.

Does your mind control your body, or does you body control the mind.
For some peeps is controled by external."

Sorry, I am in the battle already...

Best regards, Exnav
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  • #57,526
  • Jul 3, 2017 2:54am Jul 3, 2017 2:54am
Quoting Exnav
Very briefly: Now is London session. What is economic calendar saying? There is news that might affect G/U behavour before/at/ after 09.30. Who might show hands and when? Real moves and fake ones? How to make your feeling (when to deploy scouts)? What could be contingencies? Has U/J already shown her hands, what about U/CAD? Etc.... Flow direction in Now: plan (general trend) 50/50 probability, moves 50/50 news 50/50, contingencies... There are so many ingredients. For me, impossible to lead and make hand held. Your knowledge, understanding, skills....

Hi Exnav

on G/U it looks and feels to me like someone is trying to set up a stop/order run into the 50's (the last daily high), maybe they will use the news for this purpose??

all we (ant's) can do is follow the trail of crumbs that fall from their table.

regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #57,527
  • Jul 3, 2017 3:05am Jul 3, 2017 3:05am
Quoting phil13
{quote} Hi Exnav on G/U it looks and feels to me like someone is trying to set up a stop/order run into the 50's (the last daily high), maybe they will use the news for this purpose?? all we (ant's) can do is follow the trail of crumbs that fall from their table. regards Phil.
Hello Phil,

You are perfectly right. It's always 50/50. But London guys are pretty good in things to outsmart other "big boys". Sometimes there have been fake moves right before releases, sometimes big fakes right after or half hour an hour, etc. later. Why not 90 - 100 pips move?

Normally, we see a fact and respond to it after news releases - following the Now flow. Advanced ones are making all moves. I'm far from there yet.

Enjoy your Monday trading!

Best regards, Exnav
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  • #57,528
  • Jul 3, 2017 3:30am Jul 3, 2017 3:30am
Quoting Exnav
{quote} Congratulations with your success! "translation been inaccurate" - it may mislead you, information must be as accurate and reliable as possible; "Some moments I understand some not." - why not asking? Hopefully, someone here would graciously come to assist. Here FTI's reminder: "Stuff you reading and learning here may be pages long. In reality, is summarised into split second decision capabilities. If you train internalise it. is not so difficult really. But of course if you want , you can make it difficult for your mind. and you will never...
I'll read The art of war and read 4 weeks of posts you mentioned. Practice as tell Cookie and then I ask some question. I don't want to bother you before I do it! Thanks!
  • #57,529
  • Jul 4, 2017 1:57am Jul 4, 2017 1:57am
Quoting protuberanec
{quote} I'll read The art of war and read 4 weeks of posts you mentioned. Practice as tell Cookie and then I ask some question. I don't want to bother you before I do it! Thanks!
When you read FTI - think about what everything could mean - your language worries may actually help you by making you study everything in more depth - it is much deeper than at first it appears. It took me ages of rereading before I actually got the right vibe and was open to it. You MUST also learn from market.


Alex
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  • #57,530
  • Jul 4, 2017 12:38pm Jul 4, 2017 12:38pm
Quoting alexandria
{quote} When you read FTI - think about what everything could mean - your language worries may actually help you by making you study everything in more depth - it is much deeper than at first it appears. It took me ages of rereading before I actually got the right vibe and was open to it. You MUST also learn from market. Alex
Thanks Alex! You are right!
  • #57,531
  • Jul 5, 2017 2:49am Jul 5, 2017 2:49am
Quoting protuberanec
{quote} Thanks Alex! You are right!
Just a thought as English language is an issue - post chart pictures of your understanding and peeps(people) can comment.

Alex
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #57,532
  • Jul 5, 2017 4:19am Jul 5, 2017 4:19am
Quoting player1pl
{quote} There hasn't been presented any method of entries and exits throughout this whole thread, it's 2800 pages of memes, music videos, repeating "you need to learn to dance the market bro, just learn to dance" and hanging on every word of bullshit fti has spouted. The only concrete information provided by him is that indicators don't work, but everyone knows that.
maybe because There is no FTI method of trading what he was trying to do when he opened this thread was simply to share his knowledge and experience about the market and also help some peeps improve with their trading. He tirelessly explained here what and importance of the Market and its Structure, Money Maker, Mindset etc.

Remember the scorpion and frog story, Market Makers are scorpions, hitting stops is just one of their habitual norm where they cannot help themselves because it's their Nature - the reason why stop loss isn't a good idea after all Market Makers are also price movers, so if we can understand them, their function, their purpose then this will create trade opportunities. They left footprints behind. When we dance, we need to feel and when it's right then all we gotta do is flow with her.

Entries did you say? Candlestick and Chart patterns anyone?
Let her show her hand and lead the way... all we got to do is follow her then flow.
watch out for a long legged woman who always flirting during heavy traffic - bitter and sweet.

Mindset is a challenge. it will be an unending struggle honing and shaping oneself - self discipline is key.

Understanding Market and understanding self is key to freedom.

A sufficient capital and a very sound Money Management is vital to success. Skewing is essential.

and one more thing...

Why I believe indicators are just retail traders trap because all of indicators are driven with formulas and all of them are just derivative of price, which therefore indicators are all dependent variables of price. Because of this indicators by Nature have to Lag.
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiam
  • #57,533
  • Jul 5, 2017 4:24am Jul 5, 2017 4:24am
Quoting dongsky
{quote} ...... Market Makers are scorpions, hitting stops is just one of their habitual norm where they cannot help themselves because it's their Nature - the reason why stop loss isn't a good idea after all Market Makers are also price movers, so if we can understand them, their function, their purpose then this will create trade opportunities. They left footprints behind. When we dance, we need to feel and when it's right then all we gotta do is flow with her. .....
Jupiter posted nice reminders for us of FTI thoughts and trading (as I trade I hear FTI telling me these things...) - if studied one posting explains the price action today around eur gbp and news. Jupiter has been very kind to post these reminders they are fab. These golden tit bits are throughout this thread.

Alex
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #57,534
  • Jul 5, 2017 4:26am Jul 5, 2017 4:26am
Hi Dongsky

good to see you around again my friend.

regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #57,535
  • Jul 5, 2017 4:27am Jul 5, 2017 4:27am
Quoting alexandria
{quote} Jupiter posted nice reminders for us of FTI thoughts and trading (as I trade I hear FTI telling me these things...) - if studied one posting explains the price action today around eur gbp and news. Jupiter has been very kind to post these reminders they are fab. These golden tit bits are throughout this thread. Alex
It's nice to know that Franco or Jupiter we know has evolved way to go sir!
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiam
  • #57,536
  • Jul 5, 2017 4:29am Jul 5, 2017 4:29am
Quoting phil13
Hi Dongsky good to see you around again my friend. regards Phil.
Hi Phil, just dropping by and snooping a bit since market is bit quiet.
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiam
  • #57,537
  • Jul 5, 2017 5:48am Jul 5, 2017 5:48am
Quoting dongsky
{quote} Remember the scorpion and frog story, Market Makers are scorpions, hitting stops is just one of their habitual norm where they cannot help themselves because it's their Nature - Mindset is a challenge. it will be an unending struggle honing and shaping oneself - self discipline is key. Understanding Market and understanding self is key to freedom. A sufficient capital and a very sound Money Management is vital to success. Skewing is essential. and one more thing.... Because of this indicators by Nature have to Lag.
Hello Dongsky,

Thank you for your constructive intervening. I would like to emphasize the necessity of keeping the TAF alive for everyone in need. Veterans' attendance and thoughts' sharing is highly appreciated and more than welcome. As FTI wrote: "i would be very happy see those able , carry the baton forward for me here to help others in their quest."

Best regards, Exnav

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  • #57,538
  • Jul 5, 2017 8:59am Jul 5, 2017 8:59am
Hi ALL

Anyone heard from Fredde?

For Fredde when he decides to login..
https://www.liveatc.net/ in case he wants to listen to on flight conversation lol.
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some atc conversation.. these are hilarious
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if in an oldies mode..

Rgds

For anyone interested in fx risk management
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not an endorsement to the channel, there is tons of material around, I just happen to found and watch that a few times.

Take care and like FTI always says,
GOOD FORTUNE !!
Fall in love with the process, and the outcome takes care of itself.
  • #57,539
  • Jul 5, 2017 9:10am Jul 5, 2017 9:10am
By the way, anyone done research on lithium mines and the market ? mining.. production.. etc And kind enough to share with me, please PM! Thanks!

Rgds
Fall in love with the process, and the outcome takes care of itself.
  • #57,540
  • Jul 6, 2017 2:31am Jul 6, 2017 2:31am
Quoting RelaxRay
Hi ALL Anyone heard from Fredde?
No worried for him - hope he is having fun wherever he is

Alex
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