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Quoting Akt
{quote} Hello Edensgarden Thank you for sharing your trade with us here. I have some thoughts for you and all of us to consider. I would like to suggest you consider your reaction to having an expense in your trading business. Of course no-one likes to lose but guaranteed, we all will. Just like no-one likes to die but guaranteed, we all will. As i commented on twitter today, Epictetus, the Greek philosopher said, "it is not what happens to you but how you react to it", that is what matters. Posting a loss here or a win here makes no difference...
Thx to all the people reacting to my post! Regarding this trade: it its like you mentioned Atk, I followed a process, made an assessment of the risk and decided to take the trade. A trader can never win all the time, actually in order to win overall you need to lose sometimes :-)
So i mainly wanted to know if you think I took the right steps by shorting.
I have been applying SAD to my trading for 8 months now, the first 4 months with tremendous success (>75% win rate on 1:1 RR) but the last 4 months BE or with slight losses.
My opinion is that the trend on a lot of pairs is changing...where before most of them were trending downwards and I was shoring them, now they are going upwards and I am still shorting them...
Maybe the lesson here is that even if we take each pair apart and analyse them on different timeframes , we should not forget the keep in mind the broader trend on weekly/monthly charts and the slow evolution they are going through.

Br
Edensgarden
Hello! I'm writing as I was trying to move to lower TF but I found myself with a doubt which I think has been previously asked around here. Did you realize on the H4 charts depending on the server TF not every broker offers the same 4H chart as they do it some of them 00-04 04-08 08-12 12-16-16-20 20-00 and some others 01-05 05-09 etc.

There fore the supply and demand zones drawn are not the same on the different brokers, which solution do you apply? do you base on 09-13 or 08-12?

Thank you!
Quoting alexelale
Hello! I'm writing as I was trying to move to lower TF but I found myself with a doubt which I think has been previously asked around here. Did you realize on the H4 charts depending on the server TF not every broker offers the same 4H chart as they do it some of them 00-04 04-08 08-12 12-16-16-20 20-00 and some others 01-05 05-09 etc. There fore the supply and demand zones drawn are not the same on the different brokers, which solution do you apply? do you base on 09-13 or 08-12? Thank you!
To reinforce my argument... check out the difference in charts!
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Quoting Nojak
{quote} Dear tseannn, Best way to test strategy would be doing forward test. You can do it on Forex Tester, but you have to buy it to receive history. Best wishes.
Hello Nojak,

Thank you very much for your advice.
Had a couple losses and just one win, and many negative floating. Feeling that I'm out of the zone already. Just wanna test out what I do is right or not. Perhaps I'll just post more for more opinions.

Best regards,
Sean
Opportunity doesn't knock on your door.
Quoting alexelale
{quote} To reinforce my argument... check out the difference in charts! {image} {image}
Indeed... That confuses alot. SaD zones could be quite different depending on broker's time. How to consider this? Anybody knows?
Quoting alexelale
Hello! I'm writing as I was trying to move to lower TF but I found myself with a doubt which I think has been previously asked around here. Did you realize on the H4 charts depending on the server TF not every broker offers the same 4H chart as they do it some of them 00-04 04-08 08-12 12-16-16-20 20-00 and some others 01-05 05-09 etc. There fore the supply and demand zones drawn are not the same on the different brokers, which solution do you apply? do you base on 09-13 or 08-12? Thank you!
Hello alexelale

If i may, i tend not to deviate from what information i get from my broker
Your broker is your trading provider in forex which as you know, has no centralized exchange.
So, since there is no centralized exchange, data feeds will defer even if slightly.
So for the forex market, i go with the information i have. I go with reputable and decent sized brokers and don't concern myself with the rest.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
Hello everyone

Last call for the webinar. invites will be sent out in an hour

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Last call for the webinar. invites will be sent out in an hour best wishes
Getting excited, looking forward to it.
Quoting Whenever
{quote} Hello Minosd, of course, after the fact we are all great traders , so I do not judge your entry at all, but instead use it for myself too for learning something for a potential next time. I didn't analyse other timeframes, but just looking at your single posted chart, this is what I think we both may wanto to consider for the future. And of course, also my below thought is very open to any further better one : {image}

@ Whenever
I have a doubt on your comment.. Please help me out with it
@ AKT
I'd appreciate if you could shed some light on this as well

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Quoting vickybha
{quote} @ Whenever I have a doubt on your comment.. Please help me out with it @ AKT I'd appreciate if you could shed some light on this as well {image}
Dear vickybha,

I tried to share my thoughts in my chart bellow.
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Hope this will help. Best wishes!
Ohh thank you Nojak.. that was immensely helpful
Quoting Nojak
{quote} Dear vickybha, I tried to share my thoughts in my chart bellow. {image} Hope this will help. Best wishes!
Thx Nojak. Good analysis
Quoting vickybha
{quote} @ Whenever I have a doubt on your comment.. Please help me out with it
I agree with Nojak, but that was actually not the reason of my post.
My point is :
I am not saying that was NOT a zone to short at.
It is.

I only would not sell with Set and Forget (but Confirmation) and I would also ask myself "where to put a really protective stop".

Having been trapped so many times in that kind of things I would now rather tend to consider my stop at a main structure point, not just above the level.

But that's just my own conservative opinion.
Quoting Whenever
{quote} I agree with Nojak, but that was actually not the reason of my post. My point is : I am not saying that was NOT a zone to short at. It is. I only would not sell with Set and Forget (but Confirmation) and I would also ask myself "where to put a really protective stop". Having been trapped so many times in that kind of things I would now rather tend to consider my stop at a main structure point, not just above the level. But that's just my own conservative opinion.
Dear Whenever,

I am still learning SL locations and strategies how to place it. At the moment I will not be able to help you with that.

Best wishes.
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Last call for the webinar. invites will be sent out in an hour best wishes
I missed this webinar Akt Was it recorded and will be posted in your YT channel ?

Hopefully I would be able to join next.
Hi Michael,

Just a thank you for your time doing the webinar yesterday. Was very insightful, much appreciated.

Regards
Sean
Can I put my two cents in on the Cable?

First off, I'm a newbie who blew up my account every month for the past four months. Lol

Secondly, I only discovered s/d trading four weeks ago. Since learning about s/d trading from Sam Seiden's free videos, I was in my first three weeks of profit, after three months of no more than a single day of profit.

Thirdly, after three weeks of profit, I blew up my account, chasing price and trying to short the cable, the fiber, and other related pairs. Lol

So, basically, I'm saying, I have no credentials ha ha

But, after losing my shirt this week, I discovered this thread two days ago, I read the first four pages, and then watched about 8 or 9 hours of Michael's videos on YouTube.

Here is my take on the pound/dollar and also the eurusd. And kiwi for that matter.

i clicked on a random video in Michael's video list and the first thing he said that stuck out to me in that video was that the first thing he checks is the Dollar index. So, I paused the video and looked it up. I didn't even know the Dollar had its own index. Again, I'm a newbie. Four months ago, I was trying to Google "4X" to figure out what the heck somebody was talking about. I thought it was the latest Facebook marketing program (that was the original topic-I'm into marketing because I'm a self-employed artist).

This is what the Dollar index looked like at the end of last week:

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That's a strong rally on the greenback and I think the first rule of supply and demand is "never buy after a rally"?

So, that was a lesson to me as the Dollar continued to retrace the past five days, which, of course, is inversely related to the sharp rally in the Dollar pairs, which I was aggressively trying to short (going long on the Dollar).

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Am i correct on this at all?
Quoting Denden2012
I have a useful tool I would like to share with everyone which gives an easy way of determining your targets based on the risk you take. It uses a modified fibonacci extension tool and I will lay it out for you here. I use MT4 as my platform but it should not be too different on other platforms. Go to the fibonacci expansion tool properties and click on the fibo levels tab. Erase all the default settings and replace the defaults with the following. Level: Description: 0 ----- %$ Stop Loss 1 ----- %$ Entry 2 ----- %$ 1:1 RR 3 ----- %$ 2:1 RR 4 -----...
Thank you for this, really helps. I've just started to read this thread as I'm very interested in SnD. I guess I missed the webinar, how can I join the next one?
Thanks
Thank you
Quoting vickybha
{quote} @ Whenever I have a doubt on your comment.. Please help me out with it @ AKT I'd appreciate if you could shed some light on this as well {image}
Hi, everybody. I agree with Nojak and isaacpeh. It is necessary to consider that the price reacted at the weekly demand zone. The day area supply is not suitable to enter against the weekly demand. There is no fresh weekly area supply.
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I am sorry, i speak English a little bit
Hello guys
I am new to the thread , any advice about where to begin ?

thanks
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