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  • #6,021
  • Jun 30, 2017 7:20am Jun 30, 2017 7:20am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlS-W4hppw
  • #6,022
  • Jun 30, 2017 7:22am Jun 30, 2017 7:22am
https://youtu.be/zudJQeP19Gg
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,023
  • Edited 7:47am Jun 30, 2017 7:24am | Edited 7:47am
[quote=Stu Effex;10039212]{quote} You too Doc[/quote

Welcome to the

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ArpRWcGe0
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #6,024
  • Jun 30, 2017 7:48am Jun 30, 2017 7:48am
Quoting NoStopsXXL
{quote} I think Italy is going to be a headline grabber soon, not just with this..... but its banks... maybe Italy will be the one to bring Europe to its knees..... but Germany has deep pockets :-)
Italy is too obvious and the Banking problems are ongoing but nothing new. It would take something from left-field and so totally unexpected as to prevent the fire hoses reaching. IF they (the EU Commissars) can see it or predict it they can exert influence to prevent the damage. IF they can't.....
  • #6,025
  • Jun 30, 2017 8:07am Jun 30, 2017 8:07am
Well Devauxt - I tried but the sphincter police wern't letting it through. Didn't think they would. Doesn't fit their version of Cliffspeak.....
  • #6,026
  • Jun 30, 2017 8:13am Jun 30, 2017 8:13am
Quoting nbfx
Well Devauxt - I tried but the sphincter police wern't letting it through. Didn't think they would. Doesn't fit their version of Cliffspeak.....
You just made me spit my drink out, thanks.
  • #6,027
  • Jun 30, 2017 8:20am Jun 30, 2017 8:20am
Quoting nbfx
Well Devauxt - I tried but the sphincter police wern't letting it through. Didn't think they would. Doesn't fit their version of Cliffspeak.....
Don't be disheartened. The "sphincter in chief" and his poodle are always happy to jump in and make some inane left, liberal or pro EU commitment. It is our job to ensure that the truth is told. They throw the ball and we whack it out of the park
  • #6,028
  • Jun 30, 2017 8:53am Jun 30, 2017 8:53am
I was undecided about this post as it probably always appears like I only think things should be dealt with physically. It's not the case but we all know how violent the streets are becoming and I think it is better to be prepared. The good thing about what I suggest is if nothing else and you never need to use the skills it is still a great adjunct to other fitness regimes you may have, I think Dev will agree.
I recall Ross saying about his worry for his girlfriends safety to and from work etc. This is valid for all of us and our kids/grandkids etc.
Some people think they can deal with situations but I can absolutely guarantee most and that includes fit strong men can become absolutely rooted to the spot when adrenaline dumps into the blood stream. The only way to prepare for such an event is to train for it and that includes getting used to being hit/attacked and being placed under physical stress. Obviously you can't account for every situation but even a few well learnt drills is better than being clueless and paralysed with fear.
For adults I would recommend Krav Maga or similar Street Self Defense course. For children a traditional martial art which also has emphasis on real application, so not a sport art.
If anyone would like any advise on this can advise further here or PM.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,029
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:08am Jun 30, 2017 9:08am
[quote=Stu Effex;10036402]
Quoting Exodus
{quote} I thought the 'authorities' were going to start taking them back to Libya[/qu I don't see how unless it's rounding up and can't see that happening any time soon. They are forcing the hands of reluctant revolutionaries.
The plan ... is to 'rescue' them at sea ... and then take them to Libya instead of Sicily. That plan probably get scuppered tho...
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #6,030
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:21am Jun 30, 2017 9:21am
[quote=Exodus;10039848]
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} The plan ... is to 'rescue' them at sea ... and then take them to Libya instead of Sicily. That plan probably get scuppered tho...
Sounds like a great plan. You would think a better plan would be to stop at source but it's much better from a media perspective to be plucking poor people from overladen junks and tell us about the plight of these poor refugees who happen to be largely male and under 18
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,031
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:25am Jun 30, 2017 9:25am
Quoting DrManhatten
https://youtu.be/RJtj0I3IvCA This is truly astounding!
Merkel has just stubbed her toe. The German government has just voted to legalise gay-marriage ... that will upset a few migrants.

She gave the members a free vote, although she stated that she votes against it.
(apologies in advance if that turns out to be fake news)
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #6,033
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:29am Jun 30, 2017 9:29am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Don't be disheartened. The "sphincter in chief" and his poodle are always happy to jump in and make some inane left, liberal or pro EU commitment. It is our job to ensure that the truth is told. They throw the ball and we whack it out of the park
Looks like Cliff's Dog just managed to get a scrap of bacon off the breakfast table - If that tail wags any harder it'll break off.... Friend of mine had a terrier like that - used to chase round and round in circles. He never did understand why his tail just wouldn't stand still for long enough for him to catch it - He used to Bark a lot too. - shame really..
  • #6,034
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:40am Jun 30, 2017 9:40am
Quoting jen101
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for women in terms of self defence you are better off looking into something that incorporates some form of grappling women's hips are not designed as well as men's for kicking and your upper body is most probably going to be weaker than a men's if his picking you as a target but with grappling people that are weaker than their opponent can use leverage/experience to their advantage if i entry a boxing match with someone with more experience than me i may win with a lucky punch but i will not be able to get lucky in a jiu jitsu match also in striking modern day clothes will be a hindrance in terms of kicking someone in the head but if you practice Jiu Jitsu with a GI you will have experience in how to used someone clothes against them i would just like to say i have never practiced Jiu jitsu
  • #6,035
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:41am Jun 30, 2017 9:41am
Quoting jen101
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That's great Jen. You should notice the discipline helps in their school life too. Just be careful it's not a grabbing organisation who are constantly wanting the kids to grade for the sake of it and of course CASH. Grading is good encouragement for kids but it can be negative if not used/policed wisely. I'll take a look at the content of the vids and give ya my opinion. I should have said in last post you have to be careful and choose this kind of education carefully, some of it might look like the dogs doo dahs but about effective as a glass eye and very often you find instructors who have never had any real confrontation in their lives and just offer regurgitated crap from some self appointed grand master.
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #6,036
  • Jun 30, 2017 9:49am Jun 30, 2017 9:49am
Quoting Stu Effex
I was undecided about this post as it probably always appears like I only think things should be dealt with physically. It's not the case but we all know how violent the streets are becoming and I think it is better to be prepared. The good thing about what I suggest is if nothing else and you never need to use the skills it is still a great adjunct to other fitness regimes you may have, I think Dev will agree. I recall Ross saying about his worry for his girlfriends safety to and from work etc. This is valid for all of us and our kids/grandkids...
My wife is looking for a Krav Maga class to join near where we live. Looks very interesting
  • #6,037
  • Jun 30, 2017 10:11am Jun 30, 2017 10:11am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Looks like Cliff's Dog just managed to get a scrap of bacon off the breakfast table - If that tail wags any harder it'll break off.... Friend of mine had a terrier like that - used to chase round and round in circles. He never did understand why his tail just wouldn't stand still for long enough for him to catch it - He used to Bark a lot too. - shame really..
What a very apt description of Cliff's bitch, barkie
  • #6,038
  • Jun 30, 2017 10:18am Jun 30, 2017 10:18am
stable population is 2.1 per woman
I agree immigration is a problem and not the answer
And the immigration is weighted to young this can be compounded very quickly ,but not necessarily weighted Muslim givern the split.

Actually Germany is way worse situ currently in a people Ponzi system

The type of immigrant is important ,take Brit going to Spain will bring wealth or skills a lot of UK incomers don't have .
Also the age going from UK will be much higher ,large proportion non child bearing ages.
Thats why our offer to take EU migrants is way more costly and generous than the EU's and they still want more to do the deal



Quoting Magog
Required fertility rate for population to stay the same: 2.1 Brits: 1.78 UK Somalians: 4.19 UK Afghans: 4.25 UK Pakistanis: 3.82 Importing high birth rate Muslims to replace low birth rate Europeans guarantees our total extinction thiscentury. This ain't rocket science
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  • #6,039
  • Jun 30, 2017 10:26am Jun 30, 2017 10:26am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} for women in terms of self defence you are better off looking into something that incorporates some form of grappling women's hips are not designed as well as men's for kicking and your upper body is most probably going to be weaker than a men's if his picking you as a target but with grappling people that are weaker than their opponent can use leverage/experience to their advantage if i entry a boxing match with someone with more experience than me i may win with a lucky punch but i will not be able to get lucky in a jiu jitsu match also...
Important thing is awareness of your situation and being able to assess fast. In most situations you rarely get that luxury. A lot of stuff on the net is always showing frontal attacks, which is the best scenario, as having someone in front is a luxury. However most times it just doesn't happen that way. My daughter at 8.5 stone can deal with a guy of 16 stone no issue and with a kick so doesn't matter about hips etc you have to be prepared to use it all and deal with going to ground if need be. It's the choice of kick that matters for example she would never perform any kick higher than plumb level, just too much risk of being uprooted. Any woman has the capability of delivering a low turning kick to a mans knee joint and fully dislocating, no matter how big or strong that man is, it takes less force than you think to do that kind of damage but the average persons mind isn't thinking that way. As I said it's just training and that should cover everything, striking and groundwork but realistically a woman doesn't want to go to ground with a man and untrained should never punch. That goes for men too who aren't used to punching, you will have more success with open hand techniques and stand less chance of breaking your fist or wrist. Seen loads of guys break fist with misguided punch hitting forehead or elbow for example. Anyway won't go any further just thought I would offer some advice and if you are thinking of doing some self defense type stuff will be happy happy to advise on whether or not it is crap or worthwhile sticking with.
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  • #6,040
  • Jun 30, 2017 10:30am Jun 30, 2017 10:30am
Quoting Ross88
{quote} for women in terms of self defence you are better off looking into something that incorporates some form of grappling women's hips are not designed as well as men's for kicking and your upper body is most probably going to be weaker than a men's if his picking you as a target but with grappling people that are weaker than their opponent can use leverage/experience to their advantage if i entry a boxing match with someone with more experience than me i may win with a lucky punch but i will not be able to get lucky in a jiu jitsu match also...
Heel in the kneecaps is the best and doesn't require much hip movement. Look to break the kneecaps then run.
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