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  • #5,901
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:34am Jun 27, 2017 10:34am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} At this rate, I can see an alternative trading bloc being established, with Switzerland, UK, Poland, Hungary Czechoslovakia etc, one where trade is the name of the game and not domination
I've heard the queen is accepting applications for membership of the British Empire again.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,902
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:35am Jun 27, 2017 10:35am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I seem to remember that Europe has been at war like forever - we still managed to feed ourselve.

Well...
I wonder if the jihad being waged over a 1400 year period has anything to do with it.
  • #5,903
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:38am Jun 27, 2017 10:38am
Now Trump comes out and says tougher stance with China? Hmm? I wonder if he is really sending another message here. Coincidence? Nope! NK is a hot issue behind closed doors at the present moment and tensions are being amped up in the South China seas. Pretty scary stuff!
  • #5,904
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:43am Jun 27, 2017 10:43am
Quoting Magog
{quote} You're missing the point Tony, Most Western civilizations have had running water and stuff since the bloody Romans - why oh why are Africans still collecting it in buckets after 100's of years evolution????
Maybe those pushy Italians couldn't be bothered with Africa? Mind you - come to think about it - Egypt is in Africa.

Or maybe the African tribes as they (the Romans) explored further south just saw them as another source of food. I'm sure many an explorer has gone that way?

Just throwing out some ideas here as to why perhaps?
  • #5,905
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:43am Jun 27, 2017 10:43am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I've heard the queen is accepting applications for membership of the British Empire again.
Now we're talking!
  • #5,906
  • Jun 27, 2017 10:45am Jun 27, 2017 10:45am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Thanks, but I prefer Stu's club.

Does that involve some basil, pepper, celery, and good angus beef blocks along with barley to be soften with a slow cook so the flavor is trapped in?
  • #5,908
  • Jun 27, 2017 11:12am Jun 27, 2017 11:12am
https://youtu.be/f_qGTsK1_SM

https://youtu.be/n9nk1u9xWlc
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
  • #5,909
  • Jun 27, 2017 11:44am Jun 27, 2017 11:44am
Around the world, millions of people especially women and girls make the long walk to collect water every day. So why dont communities move closer to the source?
As you might expect, there are lots of obstacles. Firstly, just like here in the UK, moving isnt always easy. with the worlds poorest communities, who cant afford the best land leaving them without access to water.
Even if they could afford to relocate, many people can't leave their livelihoods behind.
And then theres the problem of natural water sources themselves: theyre often filthy, and contaminated with all sorts of waste and parasites which can spread diseases like cholera.
Not only that, but theyre also unreliable. Rivers can dry up, and whole communities simply cant move every time that happens. Thats why we try to move water closer to people, by tapping into groundwater, drilling wells and harvesting rainwater.

Boiling water isnt the best idea. This is why.
Surely a simple solution is to boil the water? The trouble is, fuel is expensive in the countries where we work, and often in short supply.
Not only that, but burning fuel on a regular basis can give you respiratory problems and boiling doesnt remove all the nasty stuff from water, like arsenic and nitrates, which can cause deadly health problems over time.

3. Treating water can work (in the short term)
Too expensive
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  • #5,910
  • Edited 12:29pm Jun 27, 2017 11:55am | Edited 12:29pm
I gave the list ,geography plays it's part one thing for sure in my mind IQ isn't it

Just add recent times (last 300 year)Western oppression after developing faster to it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWR6mCInzjM

Quoting Magog
{quote} You're missing the point Tony, Most Western civilizations have had running water and stuff since the bloody Romans - why oh why are Africans still collecting it in buckets after 100's of years evolution????
Quoting Bones
Water isn't just the problem but if doesn't rain ...1) Civil Wars and Terrorism 2) The Unending Corruption 3) Education and the knowledge gap 4) Health and poverty 5) Geographically Disadvantaged 6) International Aid While $134 billion flows into the continent each year, predominantly in the form of loans, foreign investment and aid; $192 billion is taken out, mainly in profits made by foreign companies 7) Unfair Trade Policies {quote} {quote} {image}
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  • #5,911
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:00pm Jun 27, 2017 12:00pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} I've heard the queen is accepting applications for membership of the British Empire again.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,912
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:04pm Jun 27, 2017 12:04pm
Quoting nbfx
{quote} Maybe those pushy Italians couldn't be bothered with Africa? Mind you - come to think about it - Egypt is in Africa. Or maybe the African tribes as they (the Romans) explored further south just saw them as another source of food. I'm sure many an explorer has gone that way? Just throwing out some ideas here as to why perhaps?
I think that Caesar wasn't interested in going south from Tunisia with all its home comforts.

Also, after a couple of days march, he probably thought "this is a bloody huge beach", and turned back.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,913
  • Jun 27, 2017 12:17pm Jun 27, 2017 12:17pm
Quoting Bones
I gave the list ,geography plays it part one thing for sure in my mind IQ isn't it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWR6mCInzjM {quote} {quote}
Do you have a problem with IQ - Don't think I EVER mentioned it.
I only asked the question - why can't Africa feed itself - I have NO answer - thought you might be able to enlighten us - do you really think it's an IQ thing?
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,914
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:06pm Jun 27, 2017 1:06pm
I thought both your questions were rhetorical
what is your own answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4V3HR696k

Quoting Magog
{quote} Do you have a problem with IQ - Don't think I EVER mentioned it. I only asked the question - why can't Africa feed itself - I have NO answer - thought you might be able to enlighten us - do you really think it's an IQ thing?
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  • #5,915
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:19pm Jun 27, 2017 1:19pm
Ok another q I don't have an answer for.
Does anyone know where the 500 residents from Grenfell are - Coz I haven't seen any pictures of them moving into their new luxury appts yet and I've only seen a couple of funerals. Can't believe they all went walkabouts or maybe they decided to go home and help collect water in Africa???
Just askin.
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,916
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:22pm Jun 27, 2017 1:22pm
Quoting Magog
Ok another q I don't have an answer for. Does anyone know where the 500 residents from Grenfell are - Coz I haven't seen any pictures of them moving into their new luxury appts yet and I've only seen a couple of funerals. Can't believe they all went walkabouts or maybe they decided to go home and help collect water in Africa??? Just askin.
They were all collecting benefits by proxy ... and now they've been found out! (probably)
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,917
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:25pm Jun 27, 2017 1:25pm
Quoting Bones
I thought both your questions were rhetorical what is your own answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4V3HR696k {quote}
Nope not rhetorical - I really don't have an answer thats why I asked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzpZov-VFLk
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,918
  • Jun 27, 2017 1:26pm Jun 27, 2017 1:26pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} Do you have a problem with IQ - Don't think I EVER mentioned it. I only asked the question - why can't Africa feed itself - I have NO answer - thought you might be able to enlighten us - do you really think it's an IQ thing?
Education is a double-edged sword. If you don't educate the people they don't read and they don't understand what is in the water they shouldn't be drinking.

If you do educate them not only can they sort their water and feed themselves, they also learn what a corrupt bunch of people are in charge, and rise-up against them.
Especially in Africa it seems.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,919
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:23pm Jun 27, 2017 2:23pm
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} Does that involve some basil, pepper, celery, and good angus beef blocks along with barley to be soften with a slow cook so the flavor is trapped in?
Served on a redcurrant jus, with sautéed purple sprouting broccoli and a creamy potato dauphinoise.

To use up the rest of the fresh basil, caramelise some ripe peaches, flambée and serve with a good splash of Cognac, ripped basil and Cornish vanilla ice cream.
  • #5,920
  • Jun 27, 2017 2:24pm Jun 27, 2017 2:24pm
Quoting Magog
Ok another q I don't have an answer for. Does anyone know where the 500 residents from Grenfell are - Coz I haven't seen any pictures of them moving into their new luxury appts yet and I've only seen a couple of funerals. Can't believe they all went walkabouts or maybe they decided to go home and help collect water in Africa??? Just askin.
We're still wondering that ourselves here. There has been a notable absence of anything relating to them. We still think death toll is more like 300-400 in the absence of anything to dissuade us from that line of thought.

ADD - Smoke, Cyanide gas, and slumber combined with heat intense enough to cause spontaneous combustion of everything that could possibly burn inside that tower and it doesn't suggest a set of circumstances easily survived sadly...

WE think cover-up to "protect the public from themselves..."
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