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  • #5,781
  • Jun 26, 2017 5:05am Jun 26, 2017 5:05am
Quoting verv
{quote} She didn't say that. Poblem with these sites is frequently you get a bunch of conspiracy theory lunatics posting their wet dreams. We should leave the lies, distortion and exaggeration to the socialists and liberals.
Is Reuters also peddling conspiracy theories?

Merkel says Islam 'belongs to Germany' ahead of Dresden rally

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-islam-merkel-idUSKBN0KL1S020150112
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  • #5,782
  • Jun 26, 2017 5:09am Jun 26, 2017 5:09am
Quoting Magog
Germany Will Become An Islamic State, Says Merkel Theyll Have To Come To Terms With It http://occupydeplorables.com/germany-will-become-an-islamic-state-says-merkel-theyll-have-to-come-to-terms-with-it/#.WU_p3TMZf-J.twitter

This is nuts! Merky winning another election will certainly seal the deal!
  • #5,783
  • Jun 26, 2017 5:38am Jun 26, 2017 5:38am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Is Reuters also peddling conspiracy theories? Merkel says Islam 'belongs to Germany' ahead of Dresden rally http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-islam-merkel-idUSKBN0KL1S020150112


Title of the article:
Germany Will Become An Islamic State, Says Merkel Theyll Have To Come To Terms With It

What she actually said, which is bad enough without the lies, distortion and exaggeration:
Our country is going to carry on changing, and integration is also a task for the society taking up the task of dealing with immigrants. For years weve been deceiving ourselves about this. Mosques, for example, are going to be a more prominent part of our cities than they were before.

Why the sexing up?
It's bad enough as is, she certainly didn't say it would become an Islamic state.

Do you read and listen to all the stuff you post?
  • #5,784
  • Jun 26, 2017 5:48am Jun 26, 2017 5:48am
Quoting verv
{quote} Title of the article: Germany Will Become An Islamic State, Says Merkel Theyll Have To Come To Terms With It What she actually said, which is bad enough without the lies, distortion and exaggeration: Our country is going to carry on changing, and integration is also a task for the society taking up the task of dealing with immigrants. For years weve been deceiving ourselves about this. Mosques, for example, are going to be a more prominent part of our cities than they were before. Why the sexing up? It's bad enough as is, she certainly didn't...
I read/watch everything I post here but I do not take it all literally.

I also read a lot that I don't post here and from what I have read, Merkel may not have said the actual words ''Germany will become Islamic'' but taking everything she has said into account it is probably a good summation of what she thinks and what will actually happen and..................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFb_aOn6rc
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  • #5,785
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:17am Jun 26, 2017 6:17am
Quoting DrManhatten
{quote} What? No love for Einstein? I love Einstein! He da man!
Me too, but he was wrong about one thing .... there is no such thing as time, there is only change. Time was invented by man to measure change.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,786
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:20am Jun 26, 2017 6:20am
Quoting jen101
{quote} I don't think Commodore Burns will be crashing any ships. The all new USS Lincoln can make hairpin turns at high speed to be able to avoid "unexpected navigational hazards." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4636300/US-Navy-ships-practices-INCREDIBLE-high-speed-turns.html Should be self driving.
....notice how all the planes fell off the deck, already.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,787
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:30am Jun 26, 2017 6:30am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I read/watch everything I post here but I do not take it all literally. I also read a lot that I don't post here and from what I have read, Merkel may not have said the actual words ''Germany will become Islamic'' but taking everything she has said into account it is probably a good summation of what she thinks and what will actually happen and.................. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFb_aOn6rc
I doubt that very much.

I think the prospect of Germany turning into an 'Islamic state' would horrify even Christian Democrat Merkel.

Most of these socialists / liberals have good intentions, it's not some sinister plot of them trying to import Islam and make Germany an Islamic state.

Its a mistake to assume their motives are evil, their intentions are good, it's the results that are bad. So goes the saying, 'The road to hell is paved by good intentions'.

Merkel never said 'Germany will become an Islamic State', some quack made that up, but that doesn't mean her misguided policies won't lead to an Islamic state.
  • #5,788
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:33am Jun 26, 2017 6:33am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFmK3X5LCHE&index=1&list=PL-dmjPMCiEEC6NeiHPKEcarXDCsNorRCl&t=454s
  • #5,789
  • Edited 6:58am Jun 26, 2017 6:45am | Edited 6:58am
Quoting verv
{quote} I doubt that very much. I think the prospect of Germany turning into an 'Islamic state' would horrify even Christian Democrat Merkel. Most of these socialists / liberals have good intentions, it's not some sinister plot of them trying to import Islam and make Germany an Islamic state. Its a mistake to assume their motives are evil, their intentions are good, it's the results that are bad. So goes the saying, 'The road to hell is paved by good intentions'. Merkel never said 'Germany will become an Islamic State', some quack made that up,...
I just think there is more to the mass immigration/ISIS/ME/Oil/Syria/Libya thing than we know.

ISIS are now in Phillipines FFS.

Do you ever wonder where they come from - did they just get on a plane and fly there? Who is managing them organising them. Whos behind the transport of 1000's migrants of dirt poor Nafri's to Europe and whos paying for it.

Whos providing the bombs and guns - Are there really 1000's Muslims all over the world who wanna blow themselves up????

CUI BONO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVl5A5WukZY
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  • #5,790
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:46am Jun 26, 2017 6:46am
This video is nearly 40 years old by Milton Friedman and it is as relevant today, if not more so, than ever.

He puts words to feelings that we all have, feelings that all us might have difficulty expressing.

He explains why the actions of government can produce disastrous results DESPITE the good intentions of the do gooders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYeYPcougmA
  • #5,791
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:52am Jun 26, 2017 6:52am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I just think there is more to the mass immigration/ISIS/ME/Oil/Syria/Libya thing than we know. ISIS are now in Phillipines FFS. Do you ever wonder where they come from - did they just get on a plane and fly there? Who is managing them organising them. Whos behind the transport of 1000's migrants of dirt poor Nafri's to Europe and whos paying for it. Whos providing the bombs and guns - Are there really 1000's Muslims all over the world who wanna blow themselves up???? CUI BONO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3888E0nUT6s

All very good questions, none which have easy or obvious answers.

I'm not against looking for those answers, I am against assumptions that answers are obvious. Very often some of these 'answers' requires a total suspensions of disbelief.

Sometimes, like your video about the US warship getting hit, I went in thinking this is going to be BS, but came out thinking there was a genuine question there that needs proper explanation. Others times it really is bs.

Whenever I read or listen to a video from an unknown source, I try to turn by bs detector up extra high.
  • #5,792
  • Jun 26, 2017 6:57am Jun 26, 2017 6:57am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} ....notice how all the planes fell off the deck, already.
Well, we have our own now, the all new HMS Queen Elizabeth and they have to get it under the bridge. Don't think we'd be asking the yanks to drive it though. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638224/Britain-s-biggest-warship-set-sail-Forth-Bridge.html
  • #5,793
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:00am Jun 26, 2017 7:00am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Me too, but he was wrong about one thing .... there is no such thing as time, there is only change. Time was invented by man to measure change.
That's an interesting way of looking at it.
  • #5,794
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:00am Jun 26, 2017 7:00am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Well, we have our own now, the all new HMS Queen Elizabeth and they have to get it under the bridge. Don't think we'd be asking the yanks to drive it though. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4638224/Britain-s-biggest-warship-set-sail-Forth-Bridge.html
About time. We are getting two aren't we?

Double it, heck make it 5.

Not fair to allow the yanks to be doing all the fighting.
  • #5,795
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:02am Jun 26, 2017 7:02am
Quoting verv
{quote} About time. We are getting two aren't we? Double it, heck make it 5. Not fair to allow the yanks to be doing all the fighting.
I don't think we can trust them not to crash the damn things.... joke!
  • #5,796
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:13am Jun 26, 2017 7:13am
Quoting verv
{quote} All very good questions, none which have easy or obvious answers. I'm not against looking for those answers, I am against assumptions that answers are obvious. Very often some of these 'answers' requires a total suspensions of disbelief. Sometimes, like your video about the US warship getting hit, I went in thinking this is going to be BS, but came out thinking there was a genuine question there that needs proper explanation. Others times it really is bs. Whenever I read or listen...
I try to never make assumptions, even if it is bs there is normally some justification behind it. No smoke without fire sorta thing
Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence
  • #5,797
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:17am Jun 26, 2017 7:17am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I just think there is more to the mass immigration/ISIS/ME/Oil/Syria/Libya thing than we know. ISIS are now in Phillipines FFS. Do you ever wonder where they come from - did they just get on a plane and fly there? Who is managing them organising them. Whos behind the transport of 1000's migrants of dirt poor Nafri's to Europe and whos paying for it. Whos providing the bombs and guns - Are there really 1000's Muslims all over the world who wanna blow themselves up???? CUI BONO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVl5A5WukZY
Whilst looking for that vid I found this which is blocked - why is it blocked??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTWaPwDWHvw

So I dug a bit deeper and found this - Is there a subliminal message in here I wonder, or have I finally lost the plot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fwCtWvAls8
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  • #5,798
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:43am Jun 26, 2017 7:43am
Quoting Magog
{quote} I try to never make assumptions, even if it is bs there is normally some justification behind it. No smoke without fire sorta thing
Many of the obscure links posted here are actually bs, I'm sorry Mag, but they really are. The question being asked might be valid, the answers very often are ridiculous.

The Grenfell Tower Fire is a good example. In the absence of complete information to reasonable questions many have assumed there was some sort of conspiracy or cover up. I don't get that.

Like I said, I'm against 'assumptions that answers are obvious' so anything that proclaims to have those answers has to overcome a strong anti-bs meter. That's my bias, I need to be convinced, I don't assume the other person actually knows what they are talking about.
  • #5,799
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:53am Jun 26, 2017 7:53am
Quoting jen101
{quote}.... The speed of light is a constant, which means that time has to be a variable.
That is an unproven supposition

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The Milky Way is one of 2 to 4 trillion galaxies in our universe, which is expanding at the speed of light.
If it were expanding at that rate two fundamental strictures of relativity would be flawed. a) matter cannot travel at the speed of light and b) we would not be able to 'see' the receding bits of the universe. I grant they might be moving pretty quickly, and that gives them a red-shift.

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There could be infinite universes, called multiverses.
hokum

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The lecture in this video is really my sort of thing.
Thanks, I will watch it later because I like this stuff too.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #5,800
  • Jun 26, 2017 7:58am Jun 26, 2017 7:58am
Quoting verv
{quote} Many of the obscure links posted here are actually bs, I'm sorry Mag, but they really is. The question being asked might be valid, the answers very often are ridiculous. The Grenfell Tower Fire is a good example. In the absence of complete information to reasonable questions many have assumed there was some sort of conspiracy or cover up. I don't get that. Like I said, I'm against 'assumptions that answers are obvious' so anything that proclaims to have those answers has to overcome a strong anti-bs meter. That's my bias, I need to be convinced,...
Re Grenfell - I think all we have done is ask q's and point out the inconsistencies.

For instance - atm there have only been 79 confirmed deaths. There were at least 500 ppl asleep in the flats at the time of the fire - did they all go walkabouts?
Where are the survivors?

I don't remember you calling BS on anything before - would appreciate if you could be more specific. You can't say many of the links posted here are bs unless you can back it up. Sounds to me like you dismiss everything as BS before even questioning it - try applying some critical thinking first V. I don't mind being q but blanket statements like its all BS helps no-one.
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