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  • #5,481
  • Jun 21, 2017 10:52am Jun 21, 2017 10:52am
Quoting Magog
Is there a song for everything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIHyZjnpdPc
Yep somethings always tend to spring to mind for me. Although this one was a search.
https://youtu.be/b8FoVshU94c
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  • #5,482
  • Jun 21, 2017 11:11am Jun 21, 2017 11:11am
Quoting nbfx
{quote} I hope the developer got a clause in the contract restricting the council from evicting the tenants (in due course) and selling the flats on for 150m profit.! I don't mind someone with nouse coming along and making a tidy profit developing and building decent property, but I would really object if that useless bunch of local excuses for political leaders did! Also that explains where at least some of the people have gone - now what about the others?
Yep agree mate, council making out would be tragic. I think Mag is right something stinks. Was just giving thought to the way the vast amount of flood victims have been treated over the years and the rapid response to this issue.
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  • #5,483
  • Jun 21, 2017 2:31pm Jun 21, 2017 2:31pm
jen you made the case a couple of times intelligence is far ranging and even the IQ test is weighted to a certain kind by being better at tech science is handy for the test
The idea that being better at a rubik's cube means your more intelligent per se can not be right
Actually you make my point really intelligent people by exams are generally not that practical guess we can't have it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2EdujrM0vA

Quoting jen101
{quote} I have a brother in law who has a maths PhD from Cambridge. He is rather stuck up about it, so in the past I have done things to try to trip him up. It was very easy. For example, he struggled to solve just the top layer of the rubik's cube without instruction. FFS, a monkey could do it. Then I had challenged him to a few online IQ type quizzes and I easily whup him every time. What his bit of paper proves is he's a very good swot, which is something entirely different. So, no, education does not make you smarter.
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  • #5,484
  • Edited 3:50pm Jun 21, 2017 2:56pm | Edited 3:50pm
Going back to the originator of the discussion I doubt intelligence as a a high factor but evolution / survival over 100s of years which is why western world have low birth rates in a relatively safe space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348
Quoting jen101
{quote} Don't you see an inverse correlation with IQ? Look up IQ by country. If you don't have the means to feed your kids then don't have them! I guess it takes some intelligence to figure that out.
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  • #5,485
  • Jun 21, 2017 10:22pm Jun 21, 2017 10:22pm
Quoting Bones
jen you made the case a couple of times intelligence is far ranging and even the IQ test is weighted to a certain kind by being better at tech science is handy for the test The idea that being better at a rubik's cube means your more intelligent per se can not be right Actually you make my point really intelligent people by exams are generally not that practical guess we can't have it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2EdujrM0vA {quote}
It was more to do with my sister marrying a condescending little twerp who behaved like he was better than everyone else. He's the type to walk into a fist. I was really shocked actually that he was unable to solve simple puzzles, as I expected him to excel. It baffled me. His branch of maths was very pure with virtually zero application, so that may be some clue. For any real life application like fixing a bike, he's about the most useless person I have ever known.
  • #5,486
  • Jun 21, 2017 10:29pm Jun 21, 2017 10:29pm
Quoting Bones
Going back to the originator of the discussion I doubt intelligence as a a high factor but evolution / survival over 100s of years which is why western world have low birth rates in a relatively safe space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348 {quote}
The scattergun approach to breeding is more common in the animal kingdom. Have loads and hope 1 or 2 survive. It wasn't that long ago when that was the case in the west too, before modern medicine, drastically improving survival rates. Without modern medicine, for sure I wouldn't be here now and neither would my kids be.
  • #5,487
  • Jun 21, 2017 10:30pm Jun 21, 2017 10:30pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} It was more to do with my sister marrying a condescending little twerp who behaved like he was better than everyone else. He's the type to walk into a fist. I was really shocked actually that he was unable to solve simple puzzles, as I expected him to excel. It baffled me. His branch of maths was very pure with virtually zero application, so that may be some clue. For any real life application like fixing a bike, he's about the most useless person I have ever known.
That was my understanding of your original point
  • #5,488
  • Edited Jun 22, 2017 12:27am Jun 21, 2017 11:50pm | Edited Jun 22, 2017 12:27am
true the medicine improves life and thats the point made in the video
but then birth rates drop off its been seen time and again including in uk 100 years ago birth rates considerably higher as all the western world
Nature kicks in its mind boggling ,but now third world is getting medicine and help ,tech

Actually Uk birth rates spiked during both world wars

Quoting jen101
{quote} The scattergun approach to breeding is more common in the animal kingdom. Have loads and hope 1 or 2 survive. It wasn't that long ago when that was the case in the west too, before modern medicine, drastically improving survival rates. Without modern medicine, for sure I wouldn't be here now and neither would my kids be.
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  • #5,489
  • Jun 21, 2017 11:55pm Jun 21, 2017 11:55pm
theres no difference between us and animals imo nature/evolution is greater and works in the background just the same

essentially the birth of boy girls is the same worldwide hows that happen

Worldwide, there are 107 boy babies born for every 100 girl babies. This skewed ratio is partly due to sex-selective abortion and "gendercide," the killing of femaleinfants, in countries such as China and India where males are moredesired
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  • #5,490
  • Jun 21, 2017 11:58pm Jun 21, 2017 11:58pm
Quoting Bones
Going back to the originator of the discussion I doubt intelligence as a a high factor but evolution / survival over 100s of years which is why western world have low birth rates in a relatively safe space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348 {quote}
Trouble with that eutopian view of the world is that we(the west) can't afford to wait 100's years for Africa to evolve.
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  • #5,491
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:06am Jun 22, 2017 12:06am
Quoting Bones
true the medicine improves life and thats the point made in the video but then birth rates drop off its been seen time and again including in uk 100 years ago birth rates considerably higher as all the western world Nature kicks in its mind boggling ,but now third world is getting medicine and help ,tech Actually Uk birth rates spiked during both world wars {quote} {image}
Back in the 50's the uk pop was abt 50mill.

If birthrate has been declining since then why is pop abt 70 mill now? - thats a rhetorical q but feel free to answer.
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  • #5,492
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:15am Jun 22, 2017 12:15am
As far as modern medicine being the driver of lower birth rates, Antibiotic resistance might change all that and put us back 200 years.

Many invasive surgeries that are life savers now would be impossible, today's easily treated infections would instantly become killers again. even a simple cut on a finger which got infected would/could be fatal. Medicine as we know it would be set back to 19th century problems and we'd have to completely rethink....
  • #5,493
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:25am Jun 22, 2017 12:25am
For those in the intelligence debate, you may enjoy these

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUw40CpD-JYXJyVsDYsj7ITD

Edit: I can fix a bike but black hole mathematics I have to pass on coz i'm a dumb ass.
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  • #5,494
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:49am Jun 22, 2017 12:49am
This is an edit from 4 hours of questions

https://youtu.be/cdPWG7bpqJY
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  • #5,495
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:57am Jun 22, 2017 12:57am
Quoting Magog
{quote} Back in the 50's the uk pop was abt 50mill. If birthrate has been declining since then why is pop abt 70 mill now? - thats a rhetorical q but feel free to answer.
Following the relatively high growth in the UK population during the 1960s, a result of the 1960s’ baby boom, population growth slowed during the 1970s and even fell between 1975 and 1978. In the 1980s, the UK population grew again (with the exception of 1982 when it fell by 0.12%, its biggest fall since 1951). In the late 1980s, annual growth reached between 0.2% and 0.3%, when the 1960s’ baby boomers were having children. The 1990s had a stable level of growth, similar to that of the late 1980s.
The annual growth rate between the 1990s and the 2000s more than doubled, up from 0.28% to 0.64%. Uplifts in population growth have generally coincided with an increase in the number of countries holding EU membership. Growth in the UK population since 2010 has been similar to that of the late 2000s and, while it is projected to be the decade with the biggest period of growth in the last 50 years, UK population growth is then projected to slow steadily, with the long-term annual growth rate projected to stabilise at around 0.3% of the UK population.
  • #5,496
  • Jun 22, 2017 12:59am Jun 22, 2017 12:59am
birth v death

Quoting Magog
{quote} Back in the 50's the uk pop was abt 50mill. If birthrate has been declining since then why is pop abt 70 mill now? - thats a rhetorical q but feel free to answer.
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  • #5,497
  • Jun 22, 2017 1:08am Jun 22, 2017 1:08am
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  • #5,498
  • Jun 22, 2017 1:34am Jun 22, 2017 1:34am
Quoting Bones
birth v death {quote} {image} {image}
This rate is unsustainable. What will happen? NWO plan?
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  • #5,499
  • Jun 22, 2017 1:53am Jun 22, 2017 1:53am
Quoting jen101
{quote} This rate is unsustainable. What will happen? NWO plan? {image}
Look at the forecast for 2025 ?

http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx

https://youtu.be/6X_xB1JJ_Es
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  • #5,500
  • Edited 10:42pm Jun 22, 2017 2:10am | Edited 10:42pm
Quoting HudithePfupf
{quote} Ouch... you really give it to me, don't you. "Humanity is bullcrap" - Really? What are you suggesting instead? Mercilessness? Torture? Deportation? "The world is such a sh**t hole".... Interesting, my world isn't. Wanne change something in your life? Maybe stop losing money by gambling forex? "Truth is, you are not worthy to carry Jarhead's jockstrap, let alone sniff it!" - That's my favorit.... always happy to improve my English skills... jockstrap, cool! Don't worry, I won't further elaborate about why you seem to have knowledge about...

Constructive? When you make statements with labels such as "extremists" to describe people who differ from your views then I take exception to that mis-characterization, especially veterans of the armed forces who faithfully put it on the line so people like you and me can enjoy our freedoms. Truth is 100 of you couldn't make up one jarhead, thus you are expendable in the statistic column. If you want to have constructive conversations with people who differ in their views from you, then leave the negative innuendos and vitriolic nonsense at home. You accomplish very little in the attempt to be persuasive to others of your points of view, but more or less put them on the defensive. Which BTW is evident from your rhetoric! You want the same respect shown to you, then practice the same. Constructive conversations is built on mutual respect,with substantiated facts not put downs,and ambiguous statements to further your yogurt sandals, beta males ideology and silly dumb name calling. I am giving back to you what you gave. Now do you want to continue with the name calling? Try to practice what you preach before virtue signalling on humanity or saving the planet! Or is that not a comprehensible concept for you to grasp? Are you evolved enough to have the moral decency to look at yourself truthfully? Then again I would be digressing to expect something different from such group thinkers with hive mentalities like you!

Also you are pretty presumptuous to assume that I am trader who is losing money, quite the contrary, but nice try on the obvious reach there! The world is a shit hole because it is full of people like you who can't have normal rational discussions, lack original ideas to arrive at real original solutions but instead choose to eviscerate any opposing views to your own, by countering arguments with false equivalencies, and unsubstantiated claims not rooted in facts! And yes the adults have to step in to fix the mess you created, owning it, means to take responsibility for it's failures. Advocating on repeating the same garbage is like the saying of trying the same thing over and over again in hopes for a different result which is insanity. As your words demonstrates your lack of understanding of this concept, is further proof that my point is vindicated. Thanks for demonstrating that for every one here to see. So no we don't need the liberals help and in case you haven't noticed, because of your ineptness and failures for the past 20 years gave birth to the new counter culture that is rising which is a referendum of rejecting your political ideologies and those same failures! Crying like a little Beotch is not going to change it either, but accepting responsibility for your past causes is a start to practicing intellectual honesty, and thinking outside the box for real solutions, to work with others rather then subjugating those with peer conformist pressure who disagree with your causes, which leftists such as yourself and it's identity politics SJW's is something you can't grasp! Yeah, enjoy your imaginary vegan utopia, and fantasies of propagating fetishes of pedophilia, indoctrination, and false pretenses of environmental issues, but watching your demise is going to be fun as your group think of political correctness is relegated to irrelevance, while we put a stop to your imposed suicide mission to destroy humanity. Put a little realism in your life and you might discover with your soft pasty pianos hands that its going to take hard work to balance once again and restore, a normal semblance of humanity where common sense can prevail. Now there is a novel idea for you lefties to ponder, instead of crying for handouts, about the planet, about Humanities plight try working for it and actually thinking for yourselves, instead of repeating 30 year old talking points! Lets face it, you need a new message because the one you are using current is used up, stale and boring! Try again!
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