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  • #5,341
  • Jun 20, 2017 2:11pm Jun 20, 2017 2:11pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} I didn't know teabagging was your thing....
What is teabagging Jen?
  • #5,342
  • Jun 20, 2017 2:15pm Jun 20, 2017 2:15pm
Quoting Magog
{quote} Looks like McCain, Hitlery and O'Bomber got their wish - No fly zone over Syria. http://theduran.com/us-backs-down-russia-targets-us-aircraft-syria/
Cheers Mag I know we have a world to fix but can't read any more on Syria, Iran, Israel, Saudi etc etc and think I am more knowledgeable about the situation. My only conclusion, someone is always getting shafted and sometimes it's not that obvious.
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  • #5,343
  • Edited 2:45pm Jun 20, 2017 2:31pm | Edited 2:45pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Some doctor-type on R4 a few months back very precisely summed up a few concerns I have. He said that humans have defeated the natural selection process. Superficially I thought he was spot-on but it is occurring to me that, as with the global climate change fiasco, the time frame that needs to be considered is much greater than the cognitive scope of people. So let us see in another half-century (I'm unlikely to be here).
yes now people in the developed parts of the world have defeated natural selection but to deny the differences that are as clear as day from before we defeated natural selection is just not being realistic in my opinion why are their clear differences in populations why do Aborigine score better in visual ability test if it was of no benefit to them why was this characteristic pass on if it did not make the carry of these genetics more successful why do Africans have higher levels of hormones we know that testosterone is linked to gaining muscle mass it's linked to sex drive it's linked to strength and ambition why do Maori people have the densest bone structure is it not obviously related to the fact that before natural selection they used to travel island to island on boats and the people with a densest bone structure had the ability to travel the furthest and therefore spread their DNA which left future generations with more dense bones and better adapted to their environment asked yourself this if the UK was isolated today from a natural disaster with no contact to the outside world for thousands of years and the only way to survive and flourish involved long distance running when we got back into contact with the outside world do you not think we would have lots of good long distance runners? it' not that i think a IQ test is the be all and end all in intelligence but it's a gauge of certain types of thinking and if your good at these types of thinking it give someone a advantage in modern life and i do not think it's a coincidence that the groups that had most influence in creating the modern world are most adapted to living in it it would be very strange if a ethnic group living a hunter gatherer lifestyle for all of time just happen to be as adapted to modern life as someone who's ancestors help build it and therefore has DNA that was naturally selected for modern life
  • #5,344
  • Jun 20, 2017 2:46pm Jun 20, 2017 2:46pm
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} What is teabagging Jen?
I'll spare Jen the blushes. It involves the setting down of items on the chin.... I believe.
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  • #5,345
  • Jun 20, 2017 2:48pm Jun 20, 2017 2:48pm
Im thinking IQ is inherited but then it can come from either parent ,like many aspects
logically then IQ could be generally higher/lower in different areas

Einstein's descendants did inherit his IQ, to an extent. First let's step back a little bit and talk about IQ heritability. IQ is highly heritable, and that heritability is largely driven by genes (from 50% to more than 70% according to most estimates, some going as high as 90%). However, there are a few things to take into account when you are talking about exceptionally intelligent people. First, you have the fact that Einstein's children, obviously, also have a mother, and therefore inherited their IQs from her as well. Now, Mileva Marić (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mileva_Mari%C4%87), Einstein's wife, was also pretty smart. In fact, she contributed to some of Einstein's work. But assuming she was less smart than Einstein, that would have been a factor driving the children's IQs down. Secondly, there is the concept of regression towards the mean. What this tells us is that if both your parents are exceptional in a certain respect, you will probably be exceptional in that respect as well but not as much as your parents. So if both your parents are geniuses, you might be just as smart as them, you might be even smarter than them, but more likely you will be pretty smart, but not quite as smart as them.

Now on to Einstein's descendants. The thing you have to understand is that the Einstein family has been plagued with health problems. You see, Einstein had three children. There was Lieserl, who died in infancy (probably when she was one-year-old). Not much can be said about her intelligence, obviously. There was Eduard, who was a promising medical student, but then started developing schizophrenia. He was institutionalized for a large part of his life and the primitive treatment methods he was subjected to deeply affected his cognitive abilities.
Then you have Hans Albert Einstein. Hans Albert was a pretty brilliant scientist. He was a professor of hydraulic engineering at UC Berkeley and the world's foremost expert on sediment transport. That might not sound as impressive as his father's achievements, but that still makes him a pretty smart person.
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  • #5,346
  • Jun 20, 2017 2:53pm Jun 20, 2017 2:53pm
Brussels station evacuated after reports of explosion - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40349654
  • #5,347
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:08pm Jun 20, 2017 3:08pm
My problem is the way its measured as intelligence comes in many forms ,
the logic I say is because most people stay in the area their born ,which you could take further maybe like many countries are very good at certain things
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  • #5,348
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:10pm Jun 20, 2017 3:10pm
Nigel Farage, Katy Hopkins, Tommy Robinson being blamed for radicalising the guy that drove into the people near Finsbury Park mosque. What a croc of shit. Why can't they just say it was a reprisal probably due to being pissed off with not seeing politicians act with any conviction. They very people they are looking at being right wing extremist have been warning this will likely happen if there is no action politically to sort out the whole immigration/islam pile of crap
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  • #5,349
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:13pm Jun 20, 2017 3:13pm
Diane must be feeling better

https://youtu.be/ARFMk3Wb22Q
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  • #5,350
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:14pm Jun 20, 2017 3:14pm
Quoting Stu Effex
Nigel Farage, Katy Hopkins, Tommy Robinson being blamed for radicalising the guy that drove into the people near Finsbury Park mosque. What a croc of shit. Why can't they just say it was a reprisal probably due to being pissed off with not seeing politicians act with any conviction. They very people they are looking at being right wing extremist have been warning this will likely happen if there is no action politically to sort out the whole immigration/islam pile of crap
Yeh it was those three, and NOT the recent spat of terrorist attacks LOL!
  • #5,351
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:14pm Jun 20, 2017 3:14pm
Quoting Bones
My problem is the way its measured as intelligence comes in many forms , the logic I say is because most people stay in the area their born ,which you could take further maybe like many countries are very good at certain things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giVEorC-NOc
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  • #5,352
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:18pm Jun 20, 2017 3:18pm
Quoting Stu Effex
Diane must be feeling better https://youtu.be/ARFMk3Wb22Q
There is no place for either Islamic extremists or far right groups in civilised society, but for that idiot and terrorist apologist Abbott to suggest that the existence of the far right is hampering the fight against Islamic extremists, just shows how utterly out of touch this deluded politician really is.

The growth of far right groups is as a direct consequence the Politicians complete failure to listen to peoples concerns regarding Islamic extremism and their constant apologetic overtones towards these barbarians. Abbot should take responsibility for her considerable contribution towards the increase in the far right, especially since she and Corbyn have done everything in their power to stall and prevent anti terror legislation. The ordinary people in the street see the Politicians like Abbott, constantly fail to admit what the real issue is.

Since 9/11 there have been 31046 murders committed in the name if Islam by various despotic terrorist groups whose beliefs are founded in the teachings of Islam. In May 2017 alone, 1649 murders, 1726 injuries, 216 terrorist attacks (44 were suicide attacks), across 26 countries by groups doing so in the name of Islam. Now the switched on in here will notice the common denominator in these murderous acts has been the teachings of Islam.

The silent and peaceful majority of Muslims do not associate themselves with these barbaric acts but the fact remain that these terrorists fully believe that their interpretation of the Quran is the correct one and the silent and peaceful majority have largely remained silent in their public condemnation. The Islamic community has to do more to route out these extremists and failure to do so equates to tacit support for the extremists barbaric beliefs
  • #5,353
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:29pm Jun 20, 2017 3:29pm
https://youtu.be/4_7VzxRMraI
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  • #5,354
  • Jun 20, 2017 3:48pm Jun 20, 2017 3:48pm
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} What is teabagging Jen?
Have you seen Grimsby?
  • #5,355
  • Jun 20, 2017 4:04pm Jun 20, 2017 4:04pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Have you seen Grimsby?
Never visited it
  • #5,356
  • Jun 20, 2017 4:30pm Jun 20, 2017 4:30pm
Quoting Bones
Im thinking IQ is inherited but then it can come from either parent ,like many aspects logically then IQ could be generally higher/lower in different areas Einstein's descendants did inherit his IQ, to an extent. First let's step back a little bit and talk about IQ heritability. IQ is highly heritable, and that heritability is largely driven by genes (from 50% to more than 70% according to most estimates, some going as high as 90%). However, there are a few things to take into account when you are talking about exceptionally intelligent people....
IQ is a controversial issue and in my book highly overrated... and genes may be there but it is the environment that decodes them... take Einstein children and raise them in an unfavorable environment and there is no way they develop the so called high intelligence... evaluate a classroom resorting to the WISC scale select the low IQ ones and tell the teacher they are the smartest...evaluate the same classroom 5 years later and check the results...

Someone asked Binet what is intelligence and he said said "intelligence is what my test measures" and that is exactly the point: who has the moral authority to say someone is smarter than the other? A human being with his specific life experience and biases? I prefer to use the term skills but that is just me... so carry on

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  • #5,357
  • Jun 20, 2017 5:14pm Jun 20, 2017 5:14pm
Quoting Stu Effex
Nigel Farage, Katy Hopkins, Tommy Robinson being blamed for radicalising the guy that drove into the people near Finsbury Park mosque. What a croc of shit. Why can't they just say it was a reprisal probably due to being pissed off with not seeing politicians act with any conviction. They very people they are looking at being right wing extremist have been warning this will likely happen if there is no action politically to sort out the whole immigration/islam pile of crap
I agree - it is a total crock of shit with added bullshytery sprinked in, simmering on a rusty clapped out stove on the far left of the hob.
  • #5,358
  • Jun 20, 2017 5:41pm Jun 20, 2017 5:41pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} Have you seen Grimsby?
hahaha great film, had me in stitches !
  • #5,359
  • Jun 20, 2017 6:55pm Jun 20, 2017 6:55pm
I agree with the measurment point defiantly how do you measure some peoples specific abilities outside the standard test that could be considered smart.
I doubt many would argue some aspects of intelligence and peoples abilities are passed down to some respect depending on the final mix of DNA .
Having said that there must also be a learning aspect to it as how else can over time people get smarter.

Looks like you have to go back 4-5 generations to figure out the mix which would explain something that direct correlation is not seen necessarily in the next generation.

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Quoting Swnlobo
{quote} IQ is a controversial issue and in my book highly overrated... and genes may be there but it is the environment that decodes them... take Einstein children and raise them in an unfavorable environment and there is no way they develop the so called high intelligence... evaluate a classroom resorting to the WISC scale select the low IQ ones and tell the teacher they are the smartest...evaluate the same classroom 5 years later and check the results...
Someone asked Binet what is intelligence and he said said "intelligence is what my test measures"...
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  • #5,360
  • Edited 7:51pm Jun 20, 2017 7:31pm | Edited 7:51pm
not forgetting those % won't necassarly be like that, and allowance for evolution
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