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  • First Post: Apr 10, 2019 6:11am Apr 10, 2019 6:11am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Hello FF community

I've developed my own method trying to get valid precise real time data on the relationship between price and volume.
By finding out the biggest differences and expose price manipulation and be able to get the complete overview to trade the market with high accuracy.
This week current market situation suggests = USD up, CHF up, GBP down, JPY down.
More to come - to be updated

Regards,
Zerv
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  • Apr 10, 2019 6:30am Apr 10, 2019 6:30am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
This makes you able to play the broker side and trade against the crowd and follow flows, manipulation and overall speculation. Data about retail clients volume/flow on the foreign exchange market is hard to come by and one must be resourceful to obtain enough to get a broad wide market overview. By knowing the money flow and compare it to price changes makes you able to spot odd price relationships and/or be able to play the broker side and trade against the crowd in real time. Experienced traders are aware of this theory, but due to insufficient data even after a lot of learning and researching it hasn't been able to deliver until now. Every experienced trader how valuable such information could be. Active manipulation is going on big time and due to the counter speculation and stop hunting by brokers and larger financial institutions irregularities between volume and price happens all the time

Some of the classic ways (which unfortunately aren't valuable/lagging) to approach this theory are the COT (Commitment of Traders) report published by the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) or with CME (Chicago Mercantile Exchange) that shows lagging weekly updated data on open interest on futures and options. The spot FX market is way bigger than the futures and options market and this report is barely profitable and doesn't give you a view of the 'amateurs' activity on the overall FX market. Another method is finding sentiment index on sites, which unfortunately also is data insufficient and won't give you the bigger picture of what's going on or able to give a visual image of the market situation.

Volume trading in general in forex is very complex and it's difficult to find useful data. In theory, it would be necessary to have inside information from the biggest brokers to get a clearer overview of the actual overall in-depth sentiment positions and orders from private clients. There are many layers of sharp volume analysis. Not only is it about where the sheep go. Example of common scenarios: When clients try to move a price but must capitulate and when prices move substantially more than client money flow, which means that price is being pumped or dumbed more than the volume would support to slaughter and stop out the normally high leveraged retail traders.
 
 
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  • Apr 13, 2019 5:43am Apr 13, 2019 5:43am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Picture attached shows price development since my example call on Wednesday at 12:11 (my first post)

USD up = 0,09% profit
CHF up = -0,10% loss
GBP down = 0,01% profit
JPY down = 0,75% profit

Total = 0,75% profit
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  • Apr 13, 2019 8:44am Apr 13, 2019 8:44am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
This time-random picture attached below shows an example of the visual overview between price and volume over a specific amount of time.
Price being red, volume green and yellow showing irregularity.
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  • Apr 15, 2019 7:51am Apr 15, 2019 7:51am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Todays market situation from 00:00 Copenhagen time

USD strong buy
NZD weak buy
EUR weak buy

GBP strong sell
CHF medium sell
CAD weak sell
JPY weak sell
 
 
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  • Apr 15, 2019 7:55am Apr 15, 2019 7:55am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Let's see how it goes.
First attached picture is current days price development
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  • Apr 15, 2019 7:59am Apr 15, 2019 7:59am
  •  CrocodileRex
  • Joined Sep 2016 | Status: Member | 622 Posts
looks interesting. would you be willing to share how you find that relation?
 
 
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  • Apr 15, 2019 2:36pm Apr 15, 2019 2:36pm
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Today's intraday call from 6 hours ago turned out great = total profit 0,61% unleveraged profit.
Picture below shows price development from the call.
More to come - feel free to join the thread or send me a message.
This will also show me if you fellow traders find this interesting which will affect my motivation to posts like this.
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  • Apr 15, 2019 2:50pm Apr 15, 2019 2:50pm
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Quoting CrocodileRex
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looks interesting. would you be willing to share how you find that relation?
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Thanks, sir.
It's a method I've been working on for many years. I already shared some basics and will continue to do so.
It's still under development and I am trying to automize the calculation progress as much as possible to minimize the time it takes to calculate it manually (It's kinda time-consuming and involves a lot of data from a lot of sources and software.
 
 
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  • Edited 3:35pm Apr 15, 2019 3:17pm | Edited 3:35pm
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
It's all floating. The market it constantly alive and changing, including the volume. That's why any type of lag with volume/positions/sentiment (I mentioned some of this in the second post) is barely profitable or useless.

These irregularities as I call them, happen when clients positions differ from the price development. Each calculation gives an overview of that period of time. It can be differences from the last 15 min, 1 hour, intraday, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, etc you get it. My two shared examples were only 1 calculation (current week and intraday) and even though that itself is profitable, it's even better to have ongoing constant updated calculations over many periods of time. I've been away from my desk today, but the intraday call is an exact picture of the moment. That means that it will change each minute. So I would also be able to comment on updates like if an irregularity gets closed or one widens etc. Same with I could make a calculation now on the call and visual show what it is now with the price development for 6 hours taking into consideration.
 
 
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  • Apr 15, 2019 5:44pm Apr 15, 2019 5:44pm
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Current week calculation / for tomorrow

CAD strong buy
EUR medium buy
USD weak buy

JPY strong sell
NZD medium sell
GBP medium sell
AUD weak sell
CHF weak sell
 
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  • Apr 16, 2019 8:10am Apr 16, 2019 8:10am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Pretty mixed, but non the less profitable by 0,31%. I will be updating current week in a moment
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  • Apr 16, 2019 8:18am Apr 16, 2019 8:18am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Current week (not much changed)

CAD strong buy
EUR medium buy

JPY strong sell
GBP weak sell
NZD weak sell
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 4:50am Apr 17, 2019 4:50am
  •  HudithePfupf
  • Joined Mar 2016 | Status: Member | 653 Posts
Where do you get real retail volume data from?
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 9:12am Apr 17, 2019 9:12am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Yet again great call and profitable by 1,36%
I'm gonna update current week later.
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  • Apr 17, 2019 9:57am Apr 17, 2019 9:57am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Current week update

NZD strong buy
EUR medium buy

JPY strong sell
GBP weak sell
CHF weak sell
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 10:21am Apr 17, 2019 10:21am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Quoting HudithePfupf
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Where do you get real retail volume data from?
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Even though I like to share a lot of aspects of this method, there are simply some parts I cannot reveal due to it being such a huge edge, at least for now.
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 10:35am Apr 17, 2019 10:35am
  •  CrocodileRex
  • Joined Sep 2016 | Status: Member | 622 Posts
Quoting Zerv
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{quote} Even though I like to share a lot of aspects of this method, there are simply some parts I cannot reveal due to it being such a huge edge, at least for now.
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then what is the point of this thread?
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 10:54am Apr 17, 2019 10:54am
  •  Zerv
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Member | 120 Posts
Quoting CrocodileRex
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{quote} then what is the point of this thread?
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I haven't really thought or planned about that. For now, I just share some thoughts and profitable live trades while developing on the side.
 
 
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  • Apr 17, 2019 11:33am Apr 17, 2019 11:33am
  •  HudithePfupf
  • Joined Mar 2016 | Status: Member | 653 Posts
Makes little sense....

you take Gordon Gecko as an avatar...... you start a thread and place some baits....and we be both know how it will end.

While it is close to impossible to predict price it is often easy to predict the behaviour of a single individual.
 
 
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