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  • #141
  • Edited Mar 8, 2019 12:16am Mar 7, 2019 11:55pm | Edited Mar 8, 2019 12:16am
Quoting vinforex7
{quote} I know, when I made this comment... some were upset, saying dont' comment without proof. But I had tried this and failed.. with many combinations, that's why I had made the comment, but certainly didn't have the proof. But since I was confident that the trade logic would fail for sure, I made a twist. I simply reversed the logic. Instead of taking profits at certain levels (TP), I booked only losses at certain levels (SL). The result is shared infront of you... 10k demo account. (DEMO). 28 pairs...
You ignore my very first post. If read careful you will have notticed i talk that this system can only be trade very small. But with your account size and trade such high lot you will fail through the nature of market sometimes also going to have straight trends. This is your last post here.

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For all who want trade this way, please calculate FIRST what you need if the market have a straight trend and add some large space.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #142
  • Mar 8, 2019 7:31am Mar 8, 2019 7:31am
German version see below.

Hi, that's a comparison of my own Grid Trader with MakeGrid193.mq4, the properties were the same, I hope :-) See also the attached pictures. I built this EA some time ago. The base was code that I copied from the internet. So far I have not used the EA live because I was not really satisfied with the results.
Broker for the tests was ICMarkets. The test shows: It works with small accounts in the test with $ 1,000 and what must be the maximum SL.

Greetings


Hi, das ist ein Vergleich meines eigenen Grid-Traders mit MakeGrid193.mq4, die Eigenschaften waren die gleichen, hoffe ich :-), siehe auch die beigefügten Bilder. Ich habe diesen EA vor einiger Zeit programmiert. Die Basis war Code, den ich im Internet gefunden habe. Bisher habe ich den EA nicht live genutzt, weil ich mit den Ergebnissen nicht wirklich zufrieden war.
Broker für die Tests war ICMarkets. Der Test zeigt: Es funktioniert mit kleinen Konten, im Test mit 1.000$ und wie hoch der maximale SL sein muss.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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  • #143
  • Mar 8, 2019 12:29pm Mar 8, 2019 12:29pm
Quoting IAmRetep
German version see below. Hi, that's a comparison of my own Grid Trader with MakeGrid193.mq4, the properties were the same, I hope :-) See also the attached pictures. I built this EA some time ago. The base was code that I copied from the internet. So far I have not used the EA live because I was not really satisfied with the results. Broker for the tests was ICMarkets. The test shows: It works with small accounts in the test with $ 1,000 and what must be the maximum SL. Greetings Hi, das ist ein Vergleich meines eigenen Grid-Traders mit MakeGrid193.mq4,...
Without any information, only posting picture from your result, means for me to add you on ignore and have in these list profit too this week.
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  • #144
  • Mar 8, 2019 12:37pm Mar 8, 2019 12:37pm
This week was also green.

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  • #145
  • Mar 8, 2019 3:05pm Mar 8, 2019 3:05pm
Quoting MichaelSch
This week was also green. {image} {image}
How much are 20 pips in account gain %?
  • #146
  • Mar 9, 2019 2:13am Mar 9, 2019 2:13am
Quoting BermeoFX
{quote} How much are 20 pips in account gain %?
It is up to you. What are you comfortable with? I go and work in real live. So if have a working week from 35 hours and can make some more with trading, i am fine with it. It is my perspective to see how forex working for me. If you are want more, say trade fulltime, you must calculate your need daily, add large amount on top (better double daily profit), because for bad times having no profit, going to get ill and other things that life brings you out of road.

That is my point, please, please calculate FIRST if you able to reach what you want with this method and going to have the account ready for it. Do not think you can have 10% in few days, if so hurry up to go from this place here. It will never build such huge % in short time.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #147
  • Mar 9, 2019 2:29am Mar 9, 2019 2:29am
This thread is now one week old, and i see no result from last week, why? No one test this for one week seriously? I get many comment that this is mad and some positive vibes.
Can you show me your result? If you follow and get the rules correct you also must be in profit.
For those that are closing negative, something you do not get or you changed something in system that drops you outside.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #148
  • Edited 3:56am Mar 9, 2019 3:39am | Edited 3:56am
Quoting MichaelSch
This thread is now one week old, and i see no result from last week, why? No one test this for one week seriously? I get many comment that this is mad and some positive vibes. Can you show me your result? If you follow and get the rules correct you also must be in profit. For those that are closing negative, something you do not get or you changed something in system that drops you outside.
I asked your % cause i was trying to calculate your risk of ruin. I think risk % per trade isn't a think you can choose on your own, is the basis of this system.

We all know this systems make money but sooner or later you will be on a serius drawdown, maybe worse that you ever think. ¿have you beeen here in 2008?
The 5min candles average size was 50-100 pips. ¿could your grid survived that situation?. Sooner or later will be another 2008.

I know you trade small but you have to calculate the worst drawndon of the last 20 years and add 50% more. Then you calculate your grid and trade size.
You will figure out that you will need 10000- 20000 $ to trade at 0,01 lot per pair and your profit target per year will be à little bit more than a saving account
and maybe less than stock market.

Anyone that want to live of this would need 400-500 k $ and He'd never be sure. Another 2008? --> Dead, Another 11S? > dead, GBP flash crash> dead
CHF intervention? > dead.
  • #149
  • Edited 4:18am Mar 9, 2019 4:05am | Edited 4:18am
Quoting BermeoFX
{quote} I asked your % cause i was trying to calculate your risk of ruin. I think risk % per trade isn't a think you can choose on your own, is the basis of this system. We all know this systems make money but sooner or later you will be on a serius drawdown, maybe worse that you ever think. ¿have you beeen here in 2008? The 5min candles average size was 50-100 pips. ¿could your grid survived that situation?. Sooner or later will be another 2008. I know you trade small but you have to calculate the worst drawndon of the last 20 years and add 50%...
You will never be sure. If your SL will not be activate and you have a massive drop, your trade position is 1%, your account also burn. It is true dreamcastle to want trade small account and reach high percentage day in day out. How many of this "i can get 10% in short" systems are living long enough?
Also you are another one who want tell me this and i said i do not want tollerate this any longer. I know i must have enough money for trading this. My account is build to reach MY target.
It is not my fault if other can think to trade this with 500 Euro and have a position size from 0.1.
I am happy with 15-20% plus in the year. If i can achive 10% that is also good.

But you ignore also my guidline to keep not discussing this point anymore, i have countless wrote to calculate first and trade after you have it done. I put you also on ignore.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #150
  • Mar 9, 2019 7:07am Mar 9, 2019 7:07am
If someone can code or have clue how to find, can we have scripts/indicators that show us in fast what positions are closed and what positions are not set in grid, if we do all manually?
I do not want to let let run EA, because of not working if server is down. It is not problem to set order manual and replace order after TP or we take a trade out.
It will be nice to get some tools on the hand and i wish we can now move this thread away from the first hectic here.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #151
  • Mar 9, 2019 7:45am Mar 9, 2019 7:45am
Quoting MichaelSch
This thread is now one week old, and i see no result from last week, why? No one test this for one week seriously? I get many comment that this is mad and some positive vibes. Can you show me your result? If you follow and get the rules correct you also must be in profit. For those that are closing negative, something you do not get or you changed something in system that drops you outside.
I started wednesday and i am a little in drawdown but if EURUSD continues to go up i'll start to win monday
  • #152
  • Mar 9, 2019 7:56am Mar 9, 2019 7:56am
Quoting MichaelSch
If someone can code or have clue how to find, can we have scripts/indicators that show us in fast what positions are closed and what positions are not set in grid, if we do all manually? I do not want to let let run EA, because of not working if server is down. It is not problem to set order manual and replace order after TP or we take a trade out. It will be nice to get some tools on the hand and i wish we can now move this thread away from the first hectic here.
i use this expert to make my grid and then i withdraw manually , take profit 20 pips is made auto
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  • #153
  • Mar 9, 2019 2:24pm Mar 9, 2019 2:24pm
This is how a see mine. The trend is down now since the middle TMA has intersected the grid going downwards, showing a down trend. I wait for a bounce off on the higher TMA band and I sell on the first candle going downward. I exit on the lower band, and I wait again for another bounce.
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  • #154
  • Edited 3:21am Mar 10, 2019 3:06am | Edited 3:21am
Quoting maxwell-eqtn
This is how a see mine. The trend is down now since the middle TMA has intersected the grid going downwards, showing a down trend. I wait for a bounce off on the higher TMA band and I sell on the first candle going downward. I exit on the lower band, and I wait again for another bounce. {image} {image}
Last warning! We do not analyze market with any candle formation, s&r, bands and so on... Please give it up or you will be ignored aswell. Do you read first post?
You are a member since early 2008 and have no clue how to read first post?

Edit: I have you put also on ignore. You are so long here and do not get to read first posts and ignore them.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #155
  • Mar 10, 2019 3:11am Mar 10, 2019 3:11am
Some do think can post beside my guideline. In future i will for sure ignore you fast, without any warning anymore. The prevoius post was the LAST one i give a short answer. The thread is growing alone i give every mad post a answer. So we have every time two posts more, because people do not got basic things!

If you unsure, please do you can contact me before posting here. Do this with message.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #156
  • Mar 10, 2019 10:21am Mar 10, 2019 10:21am
I made this Sail Tge Grid EA.

Setting quite self explanatory except for StartCLoseProfit input.

This input is the profit of closed trades when exceeded, the EA will close the open trade with the largest loss.

Everyone can test and let me know the result...do forward test and don't do LIVE run...I put this in a hurry.
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  • #157
  • Mar 10, 2019 11:25am Mar 10, 2019 11:25am
Quoting flowerhorn
I made this Sail Tge Grid EA. Setting quite self explanatory except for StartCLoseProfit input. This input is the profit of closed trades when exceeded, the EA will close the open trade with the largest loss. Everyone can test and let me know the result...do forward test and don't do LIVE run...I put this in a hurry. {file}
Something is not working, please do look self, it makes only buy trades and takes no trade out.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough!
  • #158
  • Mar 10, 2019 12:48pm Mar 10, 2019 12:48pm
Quoting SunSaltwater
Not doubting you are making money, no reason to doubt you, just don’t understand the logic of your method but that is probably my problem not yours
There is no logic to hedgeing, it never works. Unless you are buying a commodity like oil as the price goes up. You just hold onto the commodity to keep yourself safe from sudden price hikes.
  • #159
  • Edited 8:07pm Mar 10, 2019 7:31pm | Edited 8:07pm
I made Display improvement and some logic algorithmetic corrections.

Here is SailTheGrid EA ver 2.

Settings still the same.


Initially, 1 BUY trade and 1 SELL trade will open at current price.Say price is 1.13000.
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13000 #1 #1

If price UP (goes to 1.13200), BUY trade #1 will close and new BUY trade #2 and new SELL trade #2 will open.
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13200 #2 #2


1.13000 #1

If price goes UP again (goes to 1.13400), BUY trade #2 will close. New BUY trade #3 and SELL trade #3 open.
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13400 #3 #3
1.13200 #2
1.13000 #1

Price continues UP direction (touches 1.13600), BUY trade #3 will close.New BUY trade #4 and SELL trade #4 open.
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13600 #4 #4
1.13400 #3
1.13200 #2
1.13000 #1

Let say now, price decides to go DOWN (goes to 1.13400), SELL trade #4 will close and new BUY trade #5 will open
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13600 #4
1.13400 #5 #3
1.13200 #2
1.13000 #1

Price continue DOWN (touches 1.13200), SELL trade #3 close and new BUY trade #6 open
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13600 #4
1.13400 #5
1.13200 #6 #2
1.13000 #1

Price DOWN again (1.13000), SELL trade #2 close and new BUY trade #7 open.
PRICE BUY SELL
1.13600 #4
1.13400 #5
1.13200 #6
1.13000 #7 #1

So, you see, at every pipstep size (20 pips),there will be a BUY and SELL trade.

In the meantime, as price moves (whether goes UP or goes DOWN at least 20 pips), we will cash in. So Close Trade Profit (This figure can be seen in chart if you run the EA) goes UP and UP. If this Close Trade Profit more than StartCloseProfit (input from the EA setting), the trade with the largest loss will be closed.

So here,when price goes UP and DOWN to 1.13000, our Close Trade Profit = 120 (assume 1 pip=$1..we have closed 6 trades with each trade pip profit=20).
This 120 is more than StartCloseProfit (we set 10 in the EA). Our EA will close trade #4.

Work only on EURUSD pair.
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  • #160
  • Mar 10, 2019 10:01pm Mar 10, 2019 10:01pm
Quoting flowerhorn
I made Display improvement and some logic algorithmetic corrections. Here is SailTheGrid EA ver 2. Settings still the same. Initially, 1 BUY trade and 1 SELL trade will open at current price.Say price is 1.13000. PRICE BUY SELL 1.13000 #1 #1 If price UP (goes to 1.13200), BUY trade #1 will close and new BUY trade #2 and new SELL trade #2 will open. PRICE BUY SELL 1.13200 #2 #2 1.13000 #1 If price goes UP again (goes to 1.13400), BUY trade #2 will close. New BUY trade #3 and SELL trade #3 open. PRICE BUY SELL 1.13400 #3 #3 1.13200 #2 1.13000 #1 Price...
Nice, i will test this in afternoon. Thanks for working this out.
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