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  • #481
  • Mar 14, 2017 5:48am Mar 14, 2017 5:48am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Hi another nice trade, well done yet again, here are some of Murrey's quotes from his manuel There are 2 reasons why the markets want to reverse of a multiple of 4days 1 The earth is set to 3days of magnetism and 1 day of neutrality set off the 1st Frost each fall 2 The S.E.C. requires all trading brokerage houses to return monies after 3 days when a Long or Short Position is executed We've seen that the SEC is setting its own Harmonic Rhythm inside our Trading Frame, which at extreme highs or lows will run out of liquidity for a few days,...
On the US Treasury the dates don't line up with what he has said according to my Auction Query.

The following are Excel screenshots of the exact data obtained from the Source website for Bonds, Notes and Bills.

Columns C and D are the ones of most interest to MML.

1994
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Source: https://www.treasurydirect.gov/insti...sult_query.htm

Which date is the correct date for October 2016?

Date format clearly US: MM/DD/YYYY

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  • #482
  • Mar 14, 2017 6:03am Mar 14, 2017 6:03am
Looking for opportunities in the following pairs:

GBPAUD
GBPCAD and
GBPUSD

Masterrmind...........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #483
  • Mar 14, 2017 7:03am Mar 14, 2017 7:03am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Surely someone has an indicator that can draw at least a Trading Frame border (2 vertical lines + 2 horizontal lines) based on: 1. Correct sequencing date from 1st week in October that aligns with the US Treasury Bond Auction date and projected forward; 2. Forward projection of the Trading Frame to suit the TF, P and MMPeriod Note 1: Point 1 above is to ensure that the 0/8 vertical MML (time axis) aligns with the correct start date. Then based on the user choice of 16,32,64 etc trading days for the Trading Frame this will dictate where the...
I personally took the Gann approach for pure objectively.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #484
  • Mar 14, 2017 8:00am Mar 14, 2017 8:00am
Quoting ximba
GBPCAD struggling to break -1/8 {image}
Update
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  • #485
  • Mar 14, 2017 8:27am Mar 14, 2017 8:27am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} I personally took the Gann approach for pure objectively.
I'm finding the MML levels quite good but really these are very similar to Gann levels with the 1/8 divisions.

I am pushing fairly hard to get some of the MML students here to identify the yearly reset date in Oct that is used.

I'm not convinced that its the 6th or 7th Oct 2016.

The MML reversal days occur on the even vertical MML lines according to the literature.

I've constructed a GN D1 Chart (64 Day) with the Trading Frame anchor line set on Oct 7 2016 (last trading day of the week as it turns out) and after cycling it forward 1 by 64 day cycle I've put in the time axis MMLs that range from 0/8 to 0/8.

I tell you that the reversals of trend on the Daily time frame that occur at the even MMLs are very interesting indeed.

The next step for me is to apply this concept over multiple pairs, indices and later stocks and analyze the statistics.

Obviously if the stats show a high occurrence then naturally we would seek to trade in the reveral direction of the D1 candle even if trading lower TFs on such a day.

Trading via Gann strategy requires quite alot more work and the continual updating of the Square in Time so that its accurate is a character building exercise forsure.

At the end of the day its all about gaining some sort of an edge or allowing an interest in a topic to be satisfied.

Onward and upward!

Masterrmind............
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #486
  • Mar 14, 2017 10:25am Mar 14, 2017 10:25am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} I'm finding the MML levels quite good but really these are very similar to Gann levels with the 1/8 divisions. I am pushing fairly hard to get some of the MML students here to identify the yearly reset date in Oct that is used. I'm not convinced that its the 6th or 7th Oct 2016. The MML reversal days occur on the even vertical MML lines according to the literature. I've constructed a GN D1 Chart (64 Day) with the Trading Frame anchor line set on Oct 7 2016 (last trading day of the week as it turns out) and after cycling it forward 1 by 64...
My EOD software lapsed when I stop subscribing a few years ago and as jmn5611 as mentioned his site looks very quite, but it may be worth a shot at trying to make contact by telephone or e-mail to see if he as handed it over to anyone else ? The guy that created is EOD Software goes by the name of Kristof Werling but I have no contact information for him. The publishers of his manuals and work books are
Green Hills Publishers Inc
340 Ardsley Place
Nashville
Tennessee 37215-3220
maybe they could shed some light on a contact
I purchased my material in June 2013 so the enclosed info is from then
  • #487
  • Mar 14, 2017 12:28pm Mar 14, 2017 12:28pm
Quoting ximba
{quote} Update {image}
good observation !
my M1440 tp maybe 8/8 resistance
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  • #488
  • Edited 1:22pm Mar 14, 2017 1:01pm | Edited 1:22pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} I'm finding the MML levels quite good but really these are very similar to Gann levels with the 1/8 divisions. I am pushing fairly hard to get some of the MML students here to identify the yearly reset date in Oct that is used. I'm not convinced that its the 6th or 7th Oct 2016. The MML reversal days occur on the even vertical MML lines according to the literature. I've constructed a GN D1 Chart (64 Day) with the Trading Frame anchor line set on Oct 7 2016 (last trading day of the week as it turns out) and after cycling it forward 1 by 64...
I definitely agree with you that if you trade every pair that is a character building exercise for sure. Murrey set his square the harvest moon, so that is 9/16/2016.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #489
  • Mar 14, 2017 3:36pm Mar 14, 2017 3:36pm
I post today result , I hope this can help someone .




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  • #490
  • Mar 14, 2017 8:41pm Mar 14, 2017 8:41pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} ,Agreed, I to think its wrong would like to see the square set to the nearest auction date to the 7th, Every year Murrey would move the start day by 1day this was so you had to re-new your subs and get a new activation code for his software, I know its a bit silly but would a weatherman know what is classed as the 1st frost in the fall
This is the type of action that smells of a snake oil saleman rather than a professional trader.

To be honest when reading through his literature some of the wording is laced with egotism and a sales-like pitch.

For example, he often mentions how other so-called "gurus" think this or do that.

Indirectly in his wording he is clearly saying how great his method is and how bad the other "gurus" method is!

Really?!

At the end of the day who really cares what others are saying and who cares about reading this highly redundant (unecessary) text.

A trader simply wants to focus on the exact trading content (not hear say) and make up their own mind over a given period whether or not it works for them or not.

Here is another short passage taken from his manual "Trading Frame is automatically set off US each year off the 1st frost of each month".

Go figure that out!

ps. Note the above quote is taken from his 1993 version so an up-to-date version might read completely different ... who knows!

Masterrmind...........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #491
  • Mar 14, 2017 8:55pm Mar 14, 2017 8:55pm
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} I'm finding the MML levels quite good but really these are very similar to Gann levels with the 1/8 divisions. I am pushing fairly hard to get some of the MML students here to identify the yearly reset date in Oct that is used. I'm not convinced that its the 6th or 7th Oct 2016. The MML reversal days occur on the even vertical MML lines according to the literature. I've constructed a GN D1 Chart (64 Day) with the Trading Frame anchor line set on Oct 7 2016 (last trading day of the week as it turns out) and after cycling it forward 1 by 64...
Hi Masterrmind, it is a very interesting concept to work on the dates. I am not that familiar with his time date methodology (IE first frost etc). My thought process would be to consider the triple witching dates which are simply the third Friday of March June September and December. As this is when some serious action occurs it may be worthwhile to consider.

Regards
maahome
  • #492
  • Mar 15, 2017 12:16am Mar 15, 2017 12:16am
Quoting kisqbi
EURUSD 1.0620 - is looking a great point to reverse. 4/8 ( Pivotal ) in peridod 240 and 6/8 ( Strong, Pivot Reverse ) if we hit it.... also there is a daily support at 1.0623 i think. Placing Buy Limit to that point..... P : 64, MMPeriod : 240 {image} P : 64, MMPeriod : 1440 {image}
Hi kisbi,

Could you please share the Murrey Math Indicator you used here?

Thanks in advance.

Roy
  • #493
  • Mar 15, 2017 12:32am Mar 15, 2017 12:32am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} My EOD software lapsed when I stop subscribing a few years ago and as jmn5611 as mentioned his site looks very quite, but it may be worth a shot at trying to make contact by telephone or e-mail to see if he as handed it over to anyone else ? The guy that created is EOD Software goes by the name of Kristof Werling but I have no contact information for him. The publishers of his manuals and work books are Green Hills Publishers Inc 340 Ardsley Place Nashville Tennessee 37215-3220 maybe they could shed some light on a contact I purchased my...
Thank you for the information.

Masterrmind.........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #494
  • Mar 15, 2017 12:32am Mar 15, 2017 12:32am
GA

Long in progress.

Masterrmind............
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #495
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:09am Mar 15, 2017 1:09am
Quoting maahome
{quote} Hi Masterrmind, it is a very interesting concept to work on the dates. I am not that familiar with his time date methodology (IE first frost etc). My thought process would be to consider the triple witching dates which are simply the third Friday of March June September and December. As this is when some serious action occurs it may be worthwhile to consider. Regards maahome
Thanks maahome.

But I'm starting to re-think the date ideology.

Instead I'm going to consider the significant highs and lows created in the past and generate Trading Frames from them using 15 horizontal lines comprising 14 equal sectors and 9 vertical lines equally spaced providing 8 sectors.

This new system will be called the "Dynamic PA Frame" or DF for short and I may discuss it and Gann methodology in a new thread.

Until then I'll keep trading along from the MML lines and seek to take profitable trades from the market.

Masterrmind..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #496
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:11am Mar 15, 2017 1:11am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} GN +7.7 pips {image} Masterrmind............

Hi Master, may I ask what is the indicator for instrument changer.
  • #497
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:15am Mar 15, 2017 1:15am
Quoting Masterrmind
GA Long in progress. Masterrmind............
GA

+64.7 pips

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  • #498
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:16am Mar 15, 2017 1:16am
Quoting Goldensniper
{quote} Hi Master, may I ask what is the indicator for instrument changer.
Same one on this thread called Symbol_Changer, I've just used the comment input to assign a different name that's all.

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  • #499
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:24am Mar 15, 2017 1:24am
EJ yesterday MQ 1440/725
I tested new entry indicator
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  • #500
  • Mar 15, 2017 1:29am Mar 15, 2017 1:29am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} GA +64.7 pips {image} Masterrmind.............
-1/8 Hurrah!
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