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  • #21
  • Dec 30, 2013 9:01pm Dec 30, 2013 9:01pm
Quoting MidnightRun
{quote} Let me put it differently: if you see a TDI cross with high volume this tells you that the current trend is going to reverse? Thanks

Not really, as I mention earlier on that this is a TDI h1 Chaos system, I actually prefer to look at many things before entry like bollinger band, EMA, TDI and maybe some outlook on retail trader position and news etc.



Quoting blamshakk
there is already a realtime TDI indi out there. just my $0.02 {quote}
I think I saw before, but still used to see it on my own. Thanks !

Quoting dkrock
I would like to tell you something, but please do not consider it arguing. I am just expressing an alternate opinion based on my experience. I understand you use 89 because someone else used 89. But you do not know why exactly. Supposedly because it is a fibo number. So, in other words, big deal...it was simply made up by someone who doesn't really understand indicators applied to timed charts. The centerpiece of a TDI indicator is the 34 moving average. Therefore, any additional moving averages to determine "trend" (whatever that is) should be...

No Problem Thanks for the alternate options too !! and also thanks for highlight the needs to multiply by the TimeFrame I use, but I still will keep my 34,89 EMA on a H1 chart because of experience using it for the past and its works well. I tried before multiplying it to suit the TF I use but the result is not what I want


My Position Updates:


Closed E/U short,G/U short, and USD chf long and make a 2.5% return of investment , holding position EUR/CHF with 2% unrealized loss.
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  • #22
  • Dec 30, 2013 9:02pm Dec 30, 2013 9:02pm
Thanks for sharing the system, some interesting questions/comments by other members.

I suppose at the end of the day, if you are disciplined to follow your rules and it brings consistent profits...does anything else really matter?

Cheers
  • #23
  • Edited 9:57pm Dec 30, 2013 9:05pm | Edited 9:57pm
Quoting StevenNguyen
Re-entry on NZD/USD last night before i sleep and after the important USD news released: The reasons are: Bullish candle crossed the trend line on H4 chart TDI and Genesis were set up for long RSI filter indicated long And ofc, released news supported long set-up (in short term)Ok, so wake up this morning and see the long trend is still running that has brought me about 80+ pips in total. I thought about closing the orders but i decided to keep it run until EU open, due to: Break out into 15 minutes chart, i can see the increasing of long volumes...

It is a good entry but I think market suppose to be close today, you might want to take profit first to prevent unexpected movement. I agree NZD in long term is a good prospect, I close most of my positions except EUR/CHF as of now

Your chart is somehow more indicators than mine haha ! Anyway I try to view it, found you also added FFCAL which I think might not be necessary, but maybe if you open and close position quite often then its okay.

I saw you use stochastic also

By the way, what is RSI Filter used for and also the Synergy Pro TDI and the Volatility Indicator

Happy new year 2014


Quoting m4ni4c
Thanks for sharing the system, some interesting questions/comments by other members. I suppose at the end of the day, if you are disciplined to follow your rules and it brings consistent profits...does anything else really matter? Cheers



True, many times even me also have the tendency to bend the rules and got myself in deep troubles.



Trade for today slow moving market


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1. Did short again for EU due to

-Its still candle #2
-TDI is still bearish
-Genesis turning bearish

Trade with caution.


Another possible setup (NZD/USD short) but I am not involve in it

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-Candles before the Red Candle is showing seller appear at that price
-TDI Crosses

Risk is High as its Counter Trend.
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  • #24
  • Edited 12:58am Dec 31, 2013 12:42am | Edited 12:58am
IF you trade gold..

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1. Buyer at 1194 Price (XAU/USD) - GOLD
2. TDI Crosses.
3. Genesis Change Color
4. Entry at Candle #2 is good.

One fundamental reasons why GOLD is a good trade for the start of 2014.

1. Chinese New Year is coming (End of Jan), GOLD is highly sought at country like China.

Try not entry at Candle #4,#5,#6 of a Blue (Green candle to some) Bull Candle.

I went in for some small gold trade, target to make 16 (1216 potential resistance) - 40 (Price:1243 nearby) points , about 8-15% return of investment.



Trades to look out for at this hour could be

AUD/USD short (Monitoring) - A big red candle is forming.

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-Using H1 chart we can see AU is forming big red candle
-TDI is pointing down.

Using H4 chart we can see that AU retreat upon touching 0.8950 - Triple TOP

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I will only believe trend change for upside if AU manage to break 0.8970 and 0.9070

I went in this trade, with a SL at 0.8975



## All the trades I post here is trade with my real money at a Non-mt4 platform, the mt4 platform i do open similar trade using Demo Account.
## All trades place here is to test the System and to get a firm answer from the market, if thing work well over time, the system will be teach with a comprehensive PDF guide and help the rest of Forumer to make consistent forex earning.
## This post is just for educational purpose, does not bear any signal providing service or related.
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #25
  • Edited 2:06am Dec 31, 2013 1:50am | Edited 2:06am
Quoting dkrock
It looks like you are using this thread as if you want to be an economist and predict market directions and not actually make any money? Sorry to give you trading input. I thought you were a trader, but you are just another wannabe investor. Nevermind then.
Not sure what you meant by "wanna be investor" , my trades are all kept short normally within a day and not long term.

You seem offended in me trying to share my system and write down my own notes on my entry.

Purpose of sharing this system is not to gain any commercial values, it was to share my system as well as get educated by others who got better system or insights.

Sometime things I wrote down might seems pretty to me but experience traders knows the flaw and they can help guide me and others out of it by reading and participate in this thread.

As the system is mention as CHAOS, entry need not be just base on 1 system.

Do you have another system which you wanna share here other than your inputs on my trading, I am open to other system too
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  • #26
  • Edited 2:33am Dec 31, 2013 2:21am | Edited 2:33am
Latest update on Oanda Open Position

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- EUR/USD had the biggest open ratio, with 74% are shorting it. Chance of EURO/USD going down is pretty limited,

until maybe near the ECB meeting (next week) we can see some take profit on E/U long.

- GBP/USD is also having majority of retail traders shorting.

- AUD/USD is the top 3 most open position with generally retail 2/3 of them are longing AUD/USD , the chance of AUD/USD to soar higher is pretty low.

- XAU/USD(Gold) is having majority of the position as long, but the open ratio is pretty small so Its hard to judge base on this chart.

Simply go against this chart, such as
LONG E/U, G/U
Short A/U

Don't follow the retail market, but most important is still to see what the price action is telling us and not be blind by just chart like this solely.

This chart is only base on the broker Oanda, I used it for extra analysis for my Chaos system.
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #27
  • Dec 31, 2013 2:56am Dec 31, 2013 2:56am
Quoting chaosbun
{quote} Not sure what you meant by "wanna be investor" , my trades are all kept short normally within a day and not long term. You seem offended in me trying to share my system and write down my own notes on my entry. Do you have another system which you wanna share here, I am open to other system too
Ignore me like you did earlier. Sorry if you are offended for being called an investor. I removed my other posts and will let you explore at your own will.

Good Luck
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  • #28
  • Dec 31, 2013 3:13am Dec 31, 2013 3:13am
Closed for +120 pips in 2 days on NZD/USD pair.
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Early trend reversal on NZD/USD, AUD/USD and USD/JPY
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  • #29
  • Dec 31, 2013 8:30am Dec 31, 2013 8:30am
Hello and Happy New Year! I am also from SG! Interesting what you have presented, it seems very well thought out!
I want more brain power!
  • #30
  • Dec 31, 2013 8:55am Dec 31, 2013 8:55am
nice template stevenguyen

would you mind sharing the H4 stoch and RSI filter indi? i already have the synergy pro indicators

also would you mind giving a brief overview of your entry strategy?


thanks

Quoting StevenNguyen
Closed for +120 pips in 2 days on NZD/USD pair. {image} Early trend reversal on NZD/USD, AUD/USD and USD/JPY {image} {image}
  • #31
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:07am Dec 31, 2013 10:07am
chaosbun the TDI pro and volatility filter are part of the excellent synergy pro system, the arrows on the heiken ashi (APB) price bars are also part of the package. they dont repaint in real time, only if you switch timeframes back and forth or load the system on historical data


pm me your email address and i can email it to you its a really nice system

Quoting chaosbun
{quote} It is a good entry but I think market suppose to be close today, you might want to take profit first to prevent unexpected movement. I agree NZD in long term is a good prospect, I close most of my positions except EUR/CHF as of now Your chart is somehow more indicators than mine haha ! Anyway I try to view it, found you also added FFCAL which I think might not be necessary, but maybe if you open and close position quite often then its okay. I saw you use stochastic also By the way, what is RSI Filter used for and also the Synergy Pro...
  • #32
  • Edited 12:18pm Dec 31, 2013 11:49am | Edited 12:18pm
Quoting StevenNguyen
Closed for +120 pips in 2 days on NZD/USD pair. {image} Early trend reversal on NZD/USD, AUD/USD and USD/JPY {image} {image}
Our chart very similar, i saw you got volume on your TDI also haha !!

Nice trade and congrat on your NZD/USD

Quoting blamshakk
chaosbun the TDI pro and volatility filter are part of the excellent synergy pro system, the arrows on the heiken ashi (APB) price bars are also part of the package. they dont repaint in real time, only if you switch timeframes back and forth or load the system on historical data pm me your email address and i can email it to you its a really nice system {quote}
Thanks bro, I will pm you my email And research on it so can make the system more chaotic !! Hehe

Quoting cfdtaleong
Hello and Happy New Year! I am also from SG! Interesting what you have presented, it seems very well thought out!



Hi hi , fellow singaporean Thanks for your feed back !!


Regarding my just closed trade:

I was outside at beach for the 2014 countdown, open a long for XAUUSD(Gold) at 1188 and close at 1210 (its take like less than 20-30 mins) it was a good reward. !
Also Closed my EUR/CHF for a small profit.

For today my earning is roughly about 8% of my investment . Withdrawn all my profit, keep my equity at the same level to reduce exposure.


Currently I only got AUD/USD short running.

Happy 2014 !
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #33
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:03pm Dec 31, 2013 12:03pm
New Chart Updates (Fresh from Oven !!):

Continuously AUD/USD short again - Price seems wanting to go down.

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Comments:
- TDI Crosses
- 2 BIG red Volume at High
- TDI @ 68 at AUD/USD is a good sell zone .

To me, its seems AUD/USD is being added short for the next push down. Lets ride it !

But TRADE WITH CAUTION, don't over trade

A new chart to play, USD / CAD Long

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Comments:
- Volume HIGH at low.
- TDI Crosses
- Buyer appear at 1.0615 area
- TDI @ 32 at USD/CAD is a good buy zone .

## All the trades I post here is trade with my real money at a Non-mt4 platform, the mt4 platform i do open similar trade using Demo Account.
## All trades place here is to test the System and to get a firm answer from the market, if thing work well over time, the system will be teach with a comprehensive PDF guide and help the rest of Forumer to make consistent forex earning.
## This post is just for educational purpose, does not bear any signal providing service or related.
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #34
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:24pm Dec 31, 2013 12:24pm
ok man check your email

Quoting chaosbun
{quote} Our chart very similar, i saw you got volume on your TDI also haha !! Nice trade and congrat on your NZD/USD {quote} Thanks bro, I will pm you my email And research on it so can make the system more chaotic !! Hehe {quote} Hi hi , fellow singaporean Thanks for your feed back !! Regarding my just closed trade: I was outside at beach for the 2014 countdown, open a long for XAUUSD(Gold) at 1188 and close at 1210 (its take like less than 20-30 mins) it was a good reward. ! Also Closed my EUR/CHF for a small profit. For today my earning...
  • #35
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:33pm Dec 31, 2013 12:33pm
Quoting blamshakk
ok man check your email {quote}
Received your email, I will try google for information on this indicator and how to use it

My thread is indeed made up of the ideology of Trading made simple, the difference is that I use H1 Time Frame and I also use more indicators to support my entry.


Looking @ Open Position Oanda, Bollinger Band, EMA, Price Candle, Volume etc.

Thanks again for the indicator (^^) will try test it soon.
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #36
  • Edited 1:35pm Dec 31, 2013 1:19pm | Edited 1:35pm
Quoting blamshakk
chaosbun the TDI pro and volatility filter are part of the excellent synergy pro system, the arrows on the heiken ashi (APB) price bars are also part of the package. they dont repaint in real time, only if you switch timeframes back and forth or load the system on historical data pm me your email address and i can email it to you its a really nice system {quote}
TDI and the Synergy Trading Method were developed by Dean Malone in 2007, and he is still selling the system as Synergy Pro or Advanced Synergy. Google search "Synergy Pro Dean Malone" to trace back history.

But several forums such as Forex-TSD and ForexFactory have adopted the system and developed it separately from Dean Malone's original approach. I believe if you go back to study Synergy Pro it may confuse the "system" as presented by several popular threads here. Dean Malone is still listed as author of TDI although many in ForexFactory have forgotten about it: http://codebase.mql4.com/3357
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From the Trading Made Simple thread author,
Quoting eelfranz
Wow... a lot of hate in this thread... in fact it's smokin' to say the least. Boys... when you become a professional trader you can trade the way you please. Dean averages 50+ pips profit per day for a few hours trading and so do a lot of his members. His room is not designed to call out enter now or exit now calls. You'll never learn to trade that way. He trades mini lots because most traders trade mini lots.

He gives you heads up on pairs ready to move... but it's up to you to pay attention and make the trade.

He offers 100's of free archived videos to learn to trade the Synergy System. Dean is a very successful trader traveling and teaching over the world.

Compassfx is the most honest company I've met in the forex industry and the owners and staff are heads and shoulders above any other company I've encountered in this industry.

The free Traders Dynamic Index indicator is fabulous. Just today using it I entered a E/U trade, 4H chart, 2 Lots. Opened Short at 6:46 AM at 1.2933 and exited a 5:15 PM at 1.2770 (pacific Time). This indicator alone has made me thousands of dollars over the last several years when I found their site.... and it's free.

Not real sure why your making these comments but my exposure to Compassfx and Dean Malone have been 110%. Just my observations and my 2 pips....
  • #37
  • Dec 31, 2013 1:28pm Dec 31, 2013 1:28pm
no worries man

the zip file i sent you includes the whole system manual as a pdf

you can see video explanations of the indicators here:

http://www.synergyprotrader.com/index_1022012.html


finally, i really like your approach as it confirms with other technical indicators for a more reliable entry. tell me, do you think your system can be used with 4H charts? as i cannot monitor the 1H timeframe due to work commitments

thanks


Quoting chaosbun
{quote} Received your email, I will try google for information on this indicator and how to use it My thread is indeed made up of the ideology of Trading made simple, the difference is that I use H1 Time Frame and I also use more indicators to support my entry. Looking @ Open Position Oanda, Bollinger Band, EMA, Price Candle, Volume etc. Thanks again for the indicator (^^) will try test it soon.
  • #38
  • Dec 31, 2013 1:32pm Dec 31, 2013 1:32pm
Quoting anyone
{quote} TDI and the Synergy Trading Method were developed by Dean Malone in 2007, and he is still selling the system as Synergy Pro or Advanced Synergy. Google search "Synergy Pro Dean Malone" to trace back history. But several forums such as Forex-TSD and ForexFactory have adopted the system and developed it separately from Dean Malone's original approach. I believe if you go back to study Synergy Pro it may confuse the "system" as presented by several popular threads here. Dean...
It is very useful read, I read all your word by words and I learn TDI from snarlyjack, active member in TMS, although I know the great creator of Trading Made Simple had past away . My condolences. He create such a good system and I will always remember him.

Dean Malone is the creator of TDI and I visited before compassFX but did not navigate much in the site as the site layout make me confused

This system is really very useful. especially the indicator TDI

Quoting blamshakk
no worries man the zip file i sent you includes the whole system manual as a pdf you can see video explanations of the indicators here: http://www.synergyprotrader.com/index_1022012.html finally, i really like your approach as it confirms with other technical indicators for a more reliable entry. tell me, do you think your system can be used with 4H charts? as i cannot monitor the 1H timeframe due to work commitments thanks {quote}

I saw the zip file but its quite late here about 330am so I will take a look tommorow, I will also visit the link you post here.


Thanks for liking this thread


I will try to post more useful charts and live trade ideas, also thanks the rest who post their chaos system to share and help other to make money


We all trade forex to make money and hope for a better life, let make consistent pips
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #39
  • Dec 31, 2013 4:29pm Dec 31, 2013 4:29pm
Hey Chaos,

Thank you for sharing your system with us and also for your efforts.

I would like to suggest that, it will be good if you would attach Trade Explorer because it shows that the system is working really profitable or loser.

Its quite late from my end, 3:28 AM here, so, i need to go now. I will check your system tomorrow.

Best of Luck.

Wish you profitable trades
  • #40
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:06pm Dec 31, 2013 11:06pm
Quoting anyone
{quote} Can you put up a TradeExplorer? Even if this is Demo account.
Quoting wahaj
Hey Chaos, Thank you for sharing your system with us and also for your efforts. I would like to suggest that, it will be good if you would attach Trade Explorer because it shows that the system is working really profitable or loser. Its quite late from my end, 3:28 AM here, so, i need to go now. I will check your system tomorrow. Best of Luck. Wish you profitable trades

To both who request for Trade Explorer, I think I would not really do it, reason is because this is not a Commercial Thread.

Like I say whatever I open here, I will post a live chart to support my entry. I don't see Genesis, Sonic or Trading made simple post Trade Explorer too.


Sorry for the request. This thread is not to sell a system but to educate and share each other indicators and chaos setup.
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