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  • Oct 12, 2007 8:22am Oct 12, 2007 8:22am
  •  philmcgrew
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Why is that ironic? They may use fib levels, but the theory as you know contains a lot of "wave numbers" and other nonsense that is practically irrelevant to the market. Everybody can count "waves" in different ways - that's why despite the fame of the theory it never became self-fulfilling like fibs. Only the simplest you-cant-get-me-wrong things like support/resistance and fibs on clear price action can ever be self fulfilling for that reason.

I too love Dave's analysis here, especially as he uses charts to illustrate incentives and very few analysts do that convincingly. A lot better than compiling news scenarios don't you think
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Maybe it was just me. When I read Elliott waves don't work but fibs do, it's the equivelant of saying "I don't believe in Santa Claus but the Easter Bunny is definitely real." My only point is that EW rely upon fibs to some degree. I respect your opinion and enjoy your posts tremendously. It fascinates me that we can all have such diverse opinions and still manage to make pips.
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  • Oct 12, 2007 8:30am Oct 12, 2007 8:30am
  •  Plutonite
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Maybe it was just me. When I read Elliott waves don't work but fibs do, it's the equivelant of saying "I don't believe in Santa Claus but the Easter Bunny is definitely real." My only point is that EW rely upon fibs to some degree. I respect your opinion and enjoy your posts tremendously. It fascinates me that we can all have such diverse opinions and still manage to make pips.
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Thanks phil, it's mutual. I don't know either, but I sure am glad it's happening


PS: does this mean you're a naked-chart-only trader?
Virtue finds and chooses the mean. Aristotle, Ethica Nichomachea
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  • Oct 12, 2007 8:47am Oct 12, 2007 8:47am
  •  philmcgrew
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PS: does this mean you're a naked-chart-only trader?
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Pretty close. My system will make a dot or a line when a signal appears and then send me a text message. I keep MACD on my chart to look for divergence.
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  • Oct 24, 2007 11:11pm Oct 24, 2007 11:11pm
  •  bunton
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I see some compression in the eur/gbp.. I stand bull with it down to last swing low off daily..
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  • Oct 25, 2007 7:58am Oct 25, 2007 7:58am
  •  Dave Floyd
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While I realize you are probably tired of hearing about EUR/GBP, mainly because it has been pretty dead, let's not lose sight of where prices are likely heading. The wave count noted in the chart below remains bullish and offers clients decent upside potential, in a relatively 'tame' cross, at least in terms of price action. Granted this idea may take several days or a week or two to play out, but sometimes, the best trades just sit passively rather than micro-managing shorter-term trades.

I personally am comfortable holding a small long position and adding on dips.
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  • Oct 25, 2007 5:35pm Oct 25, 2007 5:35pm
  •  bunton
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Dave Floyd, nice web site you got.. yep this one is not for most as it does not move 78,000 pips per second.. lol
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  • Oct 25, 2007 5:46pm Oct 25, 2007 5:46pm
  •  Plutonite
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It sort of like, doesn't move at all
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  • Oct 25, 2007 6:12pm Oct 25, 2007 6:12pm
  •  bunton
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It sort of like, doesn't move at all
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Well it does move and yep not for most as it would not make a good day trading pair, but what is the pip value of it per lot?.. So you need twice as many pips in other pairs to compete..

10pip=205.17 on standard
10 pip=100 on gbp/usd
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  • Oct 25, 2007 7:21pm Oct 25, 2007 7:21pm
  •  Dave Floyd
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Dave Floyd, nice web site you got.. yep this one is not for most as it does not move 78,000 pips per second.. lol
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Thanks 'bunton' on the web site comments. Regarding EUR/GBP, sure, not a real barn burner, but at $20/pip is all balances out. Given that my trades in here last several days or a couple of weeks, I have no issues regarding pace of movement, I just want to make money.

I sent this comment out to clients earlier today:

Don't let idle fingers/minds suck you into trades that do not exist. Trading is for gains; not excitement. Wait, the excitement is from the gains. Just my 2 cents.
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  •  Plutonite
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Well it does move and yep not for most as it would not make a good day trading pair, but what is the pip value of it per lot?.. So you need twice as many pips in other pairs to compete..

10pip=205.17 on standard
10 pip=100 on gbp/usd
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True of course, I was only kidding, but compared to pip value on the GJ*daily average I think the gain is not quite the same. I would not love a GJ that moves 30 pips a day (even for double the $/pip).

The attractive thing is, as you said the neat ranging action.
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  • Oct 29, 2007 6:46am Oct 29, 2007 6:46am
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Short since yesterday and targeting 0.6980. Anyone agree/disagree? Reasoning is price action+comparison of EURUSD and GBPUSD H4 charts - clearly the euro has more room to fall, particulalry after the GBP news. My 2 pips.
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  • Oct 29, 2007 8:04am Oct 29, 2007 8:04am
  •  bunton
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i got the boot but not a short yet imo..
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  • Oct 30, 2007 5:38am Oct 30, 2007 5:38am
  •  Plutonite
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Short since yesterday and targeting 0.6980. Anyone agree/disagree? Reasoning is price action+comparison of EURUSD and GBPUSD H4 charts - clearly the euro has more room to fall, particulalry after the GBP news. My 2 pips.
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*sigh*
One answer, and now target has been hit and I will close a few minutes from now, because 40 pips on EURGBP is a darn treasure. I wish this trading room had more input from people, feels like everyone is too fearful of contradicting opinions or defending their own positions that they don't want to chime in. It doesn't have to be a war, guys. I know there are people trading this pair. Oh well.

Thanks bunton and I hope you made some pips on that trade.
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  • Oct 30, 2007 6:00am Oct 30, 2007 6:00am
  •  soultrader
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well, nice time to buy if you ask me pluto.

underlying trend is up, price currently on support.

If i traded this i'd be going down a timeframe looking for the entry on an upmove.

might be right, might be wrong but probability is to the upside sometime in the next few bars.

time will tell i guess.
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Stop searching for entry and exit systems. Real traders dont do that.
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  • Oct 30, 2007 6:07am Oct 30, 2007 6:07am
  •  Plutonite
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There we go, finally some input

Nice indicator chart you have there for divergence..I know a few people who use MACD but I never really trusted it - is this one working better for you? And where is it hosted so I can look at the code?

As for going long right now, I'd say wait until you get at least some bottom formation on that H4. Too risky at the moment. I'm out for 8 hours.

Cheers,
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well, nice time to buy if you ask me pluto.

underlying trend is up, price currently on support.

If i traded this i'd be going down a timeframe looking for the entry on an upmove.

might be right, might be wrong but probability is to the upside sometime in the next few bars.

time will tell i guess.
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  • Oct 30, 2007 7:39am Oct 30, 2007 7:39am
  •  bunton
  • | Joined Aug 2007 | Status: Member | 1,196 Posts
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There we go, finally some input

Nice indicator chart you have there for divergence..I know a few people who use MACD but I never really trusted it - is this one working better for you? And where is it hosted so I can look at the code?

As for going long right now, I'd say wait until you get at least some bottom formation on that H4. Too risky at the moment. I'm out for 8 hours.

Cheers,
-A
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Nice job on da short..
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  • Oct 30, 2007 7:55am Oct 30, 2007 7:55am
  •  soultrader
  • Joined Apr 2006 | Status: UK Veteran Trader | 602 Posts
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There we go, finally some input

Nice indicator chart you have there for divergence..I know a few people who use MACD but I never really trusted it - is this one working better for you? And where is it hosted so I can look at the code?

As for going long right now, I'd say wait until you get at least some bottom formation on that H4. Too risky at the moment. I'm out for 8 hours.

Cheers,
-A
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like i said, lower tf for entry - I dont trade eurgbp because i like to stay awake

The indicator is something i threw together myself but i dont use it, nor divergence - just that it's still on my default template lol
Stop searching for entry and exit systems. Real traders dont do that.
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  • Oct 30, 2007 7:56am Oct 30, 2007 7:56am
  •  philmcgrew
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I know a few people who use MACD but I never really trusted it
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What were you trusting it to do for you?
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  • Oct 30, 2007 7:58am Oct 30, 2007 7:58am
  •  bunton
  • | Joined Aug 2007 | Status: Member | 1,196 Posts
As for input and stuff I'm trying to figure out a blog thing and will be spending my time trying to learn how it works. I figure then I can keep things in order instead of all over the place.. I agree on lack of input but I wish not to persuade anyone into sumfin..
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  • Oct 30, 2007 11:23am Oct 30, 2007 11:23am
  •  Plutonite
  • Joined Mar 2007 | Status: we are stardust, we are golden | 1,364 Posts
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What were you trusting it to do for you?
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To give me more information via all those EMAs than I would ordinarily have by glancing at the chart.
Virtue finds and chooses the mean. Aristotle, Ethica Nichomachea
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