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  • Edited 1:57am Jul 18, 2008 1:33am | Edited 1:57am
  •  ghous
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Quoting cluelessbroadband
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I have used this frequently when trading the news. It will allow you to set a silent stop, take profit at a certain level and continue taking profit at different pip levels, and also move stops at certain steps....all at the same time. It allowed me to move my position during news announcements to move my stops to b/e after being in profit 6 pips. Then, it would take profit at say 20 pips and then another portion every say 30 pips further in profit. A fantastic tool to use!! Here is also an updated one with a third layer of stops. Hope it helps your trading...I know it made it easier for me to leave my computer and still manage my open positions! http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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thankyou clulessbroadband! i was looking for something like that! i feel mt4 should have had this kind of a feature built in (maybe we'll see it in mt5) but great to see somebody making an EA out of it thanks to this anybody and you for sharing it...cheers!

edit: i have a qs...as an EA if i set certain set of parameteres let's say abc for a certain trade will it be automatically applly on all other trades i take?? obviously i don't want that, i would like the freedom to adjust the parameters according to my likings for different trades i take...

ps ps is there a manual with this EA i remeber there was a pdf manual i got with an EZ like this a few months back, don't rem,eber if it was this EA or some other.

Ragards,
Ghous
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  • Jul 18, 2008 2:02am Jul 18, 2008 2:02am
  •  mbqb11
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i am ofcaorse still learjning to fully trust certain kinds and levels of PA indications and i need to find ways to take full advantag of a trade maximize my profits and reduce my losses if any. and that drives me to my question to mbqb11, since i trade off the daily was a 35 pips stop ok (specially for Gj and EJ)? and am i being too harsh to complain when i already did make 45 pips out of a trade (even though it was avaiablke to give 4 times of my current profit)?

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Ghous
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Hey Ghous,

I personally don't believe in a manual trailing stop. That is I dont really believe that selecting some number like 35, 40, 50, is the right approach. Now this doesn't mean it can't work. I just don't believe in it. I personally manually trail my stops. That is I use price action and support and resistance as my trailing stops.

It is hard to break down in one post, but in the PF I explain one of my methods of trailing. And I use X amount of previous bar highs/lows, to help keep me in the trade. Now there is a lot more to this. For example trailing your stops does not work good in choppy markets, so a big part of it has to do with entries. There are other factors, but hopefully this will give you a bit more to think about.

So should you be happy/unhappy, I nor no one hear could answer that. Because that one trade is irrelevant, it is your overall game plan, and the long run of trades.

I hope that makes some sense, or helps a bit

Mike
 
 
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  • Jul 18, 2008 2:56am Jul 18, 2008 2:56am
  •  ghous
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Hey Ghous,

I personally don't believe in a manual trailing stop. That is I dont really believe that selecting some number like 35, 40, 50, is the right approach. Now this doesn't mean it can't work. I just don't believe in it. I personally manually trail my stops. That is I use price action and support and resistance as my trailing stops.

It is hard to break down in one post, but in the PF I explain one of my methods of trailing. And I use X amount of previous bar highs/lows, to help keep me in the trade. Now there is a lot more to this. For example trailing your stops does not work good in choppy markets, so a big part of it has to do with entries. There are other factors, but hopefully this will give you a bit more to think about.

So should you be happy/unhappy, I nor no one hear could answer that. Because that one trade is irrelevant, it is your overall game plan, and the long run of trades.

I hope that makes some sense, or helps a bit

Mike
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it sure does, thanks a lot bro!
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  • Jul 18, 2008 5:28am Jul 18, 2008 5:28am
  •  jarroo
  • Joined Sep 2005 | Status: J16 Senior Member | 13,635 Posts
You might have read this one before:

You have two novice traders entering a trade at the same time, same pair.
One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Neither is profitable.

You have two professional traders in the same scenario. One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Both are profitable.

How can this be so? The answer: The Exits.

Many traders concentrate on where to enter and when to enter a trade, as well they should do and practise. But more time should be spent on where and when to exit a trade. Because that's where we make the money or lose it.

Mike(mbqb11) makes a strong point that shouldn't go by lightly. The PPZ(s) (S/R levels) are the key to the entries and the exits and/or trailing stops. The market will show you where to put these stops if you look a little closer.

Your first stop loss placement is below the Price Action that triggered your entry or if your PA setup is within a PZZ. Then it would lie below that level to reduce risk. Then just locate the PPZ(s) to trail your stops.

". . . look for PPZ(s) to place your stops." . . is Powerful statement.

Jim
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  • Jul 18, 2008 11:07am Jul 18, 2008 11:07am
  •  ghous
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Quoting jarroo
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You might have read this one before:

You have two novice traders entering a trade at the same time, same pair.
One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Neither is profitable.

You have two professional traders in the same scenario. One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Both are profitable.

How can this be so? The answer: The Exits.

Many traders concentrate on where to enter and when to enter a trade, as well they should do and practise. But more time should be spent on where and when to exit a trade. Because that's where we make the money or lose it.

Mike(mbqb11) makes a strong point that shouldn't go by lightly. The PPZ(s) (S/R levels) are the key to the entries and the exits and/or trailing stops. The market will show you where to put these stops if you look a little closer.

Your first stop loss placement is below the Price Action that triggered your entry or if your PA setup is within a PZZ. Then it would lie below that level to reduce risk. Then just locate the PPZ(s) to trail your stops.

". . . look for PPZ(s) to place your stops." . . is Powerful statement.

Jim
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yeah i get the point thanks...
I believe . . .
 
 
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  •  ghous
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Quoting jarroo
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You might have read this one before:

You have two novice traders entering a trade at the same time, same pair.
One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Neither is profitable.

You have two professional traders in the same scenario. One enters long and the other enters short. Which one is profitable?

Answer: Both are profitable.

How can this be so? The answer: The Exits.

Many traders concentrate on where to enter and when to enter a trade, as well they should do and practise. But more time should be spent on where and when to exit a trade. Because that's where we make the money or lose it.

Mike(mbqb11) makes a strong point that shouldn't go by lightly. The PPZ(s) (S/R levels) are the key to the entries and the exits and/or trailing stops. The market will show you where to put these stops if you look a little closer.

Your first stop loss placement is below the Price Action that triggered your entry or if your PA setup is within a PZZ. Then it would lie below that level to reduce risk. Then just locate the PPZ(s) to trail your stops.

". . . look for PPZ(s) to place your stops." . . is Powerful statement.

Jim
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yeah i get the point thanks...i'll try to work upon these guidlines and keep you guys posted...

EDIT: here is the last Ej long i took that fell a victim of my poort stops, i got stopped out for +45 when it's on it's way to more than 200 pips now, a great move i totally underrated!
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...vghwoign-1.gif


here is how i could have better managed the trade:

i added a few PPZ's and used them as stops as i note if i had used these in real time i might have been more successful,


stop 1 obviously is negitive just at the end of the nose of the pin bar on the close of which the trade was taken. stop 2 is just at abt at breakeven which was also a PPZ on which the pin bar occured. stop 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are other PPZ's along which i would have moved my stop...have i got it right?
I believe . . .
 
 
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  • Jul 18, 2008 12:06pm Jul 18, 2008 12:06pm
  •  cluelessbroadband
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: James 16 Group Newbie | 19 Posts
I was curious if anyone else sees a PB forming on the Aussie Dollar on the daily chart around a 236 and a 382 retracement? I am still new trying to identify some of these pb's on the daily charts!

If you do see it form, would it be best to avoid taking it on a Friday with the lower volume, and if it holds take in on say Sunday night or Monday morning at the opening of the trade week?

Just curious, great trading! http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
 
 
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:32pm Jul 18, 2008 1:32pm
  •  fxgrinder
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Quoting jarroo
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". . . look for PPZ(s) to place your stops." . . is Powerful statement.

Jim
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can you please tell me if i have located the PPZ on the usdjpy correctly? seems like i might be missing a level above it using prior resistance?? thanks.:nerd:
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:33pm Jul 18, 2008 1:33pm
  •  mbqb11
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can you please tell me if i have located the PPZ on the usdjpy correctly? seems like i might be missing a level above it using prior resistance?? thanks.:nerd:
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yep you got it
 
 
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Quoting cluelessbroadband
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I was curious if anyone else sees a PB forming on the Aussie Dollar on the daily chart around a 236 and a 382 retracement? I am still new trying to identify some of these pb's on the daily charts!

If you do see it form, would it be best to avoid taking it on a Friday with the lower volume, and if it holds take in on say Sunday night or Monday morning at the opening of the trade week?
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it seems to be forming an I4B. i personally don't enter any trades on fridays. also, take a look at some of posts related to I4B's as they can be tricky little demons ...
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:39pm Jul 18, 2008 1:39pm
  •  ghous
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yep you got it
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umm guess you missed my post on the previous page...
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:41pm Jul 18, 2008 1:41pm
  •  jarroo
  • Joined Sep 2005 | Status: J16 Senior Member | 13,635 Posts
Quoting ghous
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yeah i get the point thanks...i'll try to work upon these guidlines and keep you guys posted...

EDIT: here is the last Ej long i took that fell a victim of my poort stops, i got stopped out for +45 when it's on it's way to more than 200 pips now, a great move i totally underrated!



here is how i could have better managed the trade:

i added a few PPZ's and used them as stops as i note if i had used these in real time i might have been more successful,


stop 1 obviously is negitive just at the end of the nose of the pin bar on the close of which the trade was taken. stop 2 is just at abt at breakeven which was also a PPZ on which the pin bar occured. stop 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are other PPZ's along which i would have moved my stop...have i got it right?
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I can't speak for Mike. But they look perfect ghous.
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:42pm Jul 18, 2008 1:42pm
  •  ghous
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Quoting cluelessbroadband
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I was curious if anyone else sees a PB forming on the Aussie Dollar on the daily chart around a 236 and a 382 retracement? I am still new trying to identify some of these pb's on the daily charts!

If you do see it form, would it be best to avoid taking it on a Friday with the lower volume, and if it holds take in on say Sunday night or Monday morning at the opening of the trade week?

Just curious, great trading! http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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yeah i am eyeing that Pb too, but i don't really trade on Friday big time just taking the very sure ones and mostly it's on the lower Tfs for fewer pips, more importantly there is not yet any sign of the pin bar getting activated i.e the upmove we all anticipate, but since it seems to be at the bottom of a retracment of a healthy long term uptrend it's very vaild, i'll have to wake up 2 hours before my usual routine on Monday to check this one out...
I believe . . .
 
 
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  • Jul 18, 2008 1:48pm Jul 18, 2008 1:48pm
  •  ghous
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Quoting jarroo
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I can't speak for Mike. But they look perfect ghous.
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Oh thankyou! i feel much better now!
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  • Jul 18, 2008 2:18pm Jul 18, 2008 2:18pm
  •  KissFan
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yeah i am eyeing that Pb too, but i don't really trade on Friday big time just taking the very sure ones and mostly it's on the lower Tfs for fewer pips, more importantly there is not yet any sign of the pin bar getting activated i.e the upmove we all anticipate, but since it seems to be at the bottom of a retracment of a healthy long term uptrend it's very vaild, i'll have to wake up 2 hours before my usual routine on Monday to check this one out...
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I would want to see the low at least down to the .9660 area before I would consider the trade. Even then, placement is important. This one is not necessarily in traffic, but the candlestick pattern befor the PB is kind of sloppy looking. I like to see one like we had on July 9.
 
 
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  • Jul 18, 2008 3:21pm Jul 18, 2008 3:21pm
  •  ghous
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I would want to see the low at least down to the .9660 area before I would consider the trade. Even then, placement is important. This one is not necessarily in traffic, but the candlestick pattern befor the PB is kind of sloppy looking. I like to see one like we had on July 9.
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on my charts 0.9660 will destroy the right eye, but you're right when you say that the previous candles do not really appear good and that's why i am out, we'll see on monday when the markets open, the fact can't be denied that the overall trend is still up and after more than 3 days of retracemtns Au could be returning to the older ways. keep that i mind that tail although not a typical nose of a pin bar still has some weight.
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  • Jul 18, 2008 3:56pm Jul 18, 2008 3:56pm
  •  ezz
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1-did i draw them right?

2-do i have to zoom out to draw them?

3-do i have to find the LOWEST point and the HIGHEST SWING point?
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  • Jul 18, 2008 4:14pm Jul 18, 2008 4:14pm
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Just like a wise man once said (James), the gift that keeps on giving . . .
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  • Jul 18, 2008 5:39pm Jul 18, 2008 5:39pm
  •  SimonK
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Funny thing is, on my Ikon Royal platform, the daily gbp looks completely different with no pinbar. Ikon daily bars close at 5pm New York time which is the standard.
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  • Jul 18, 2008 6:13pm Jul 18, 2008 6:13pm
  •  Liviu
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imho seems possible still to go up 200-400 pips more before starting to drop.

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1-did i draw them right?

2-do i have to zoom out to draw them?

3-do i have to find the LOWEST point and the HIGHEST SWING point?
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