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  • First Post: Mar 25, 2010 6:06am Mar 25, 2010 6:06am
  •  aeb
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Can anyone explain to me why the EURUSD downtrend stalled out today? I think it might be because at this point there is no precedent for it to go any lower. It hit 3300 because there are always orders waiting at even numbers, but in order for it to gain the proper momentum to continue lower, a retractment is necessary in order to give the current longs a place to set stop losses so that they can cascade and permit a new low. If so, it would seem that soon it is time to sell again. Does anyone know?
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  • Mar 25, 2010 6:16am Mar 25, 2010 6:16am
  •  smikester
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Can anyone explain to me why the EURUSD downtrend stalled out today? I think it might be because at this point there is no precedent for it to go any lower. It hit 3300 because there are always orders waiting at even numbers, but in order for it to gain the proper momentum to continue lower, a retractment is necessary in order to give the current longs a place to set stop losses so that they can cascade and permit a new low. If so, it would seem that soon it is time to sell again. Does anyone know?
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The market rarely falls evenly. The reason for the last day's fall was taking out stops of buyers in the 1.35 to 1.36 area. Their stops would have been around 1.34. I had sell orders waiting there just for that reason. To put it simply, when a buy closes, it's a sell. Now we are floating at 1.33 to 1.34. The market will probably retrace to test 1.34. Like me, there will be a lot of sellers there.
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  • Mar 25, 2010 6:32am Mar 25, 2010 6:32am
  •  aeb
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It seems like if you look at it there are reasonable places to put orders every 10ish points all the way up to 3400
 
 
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  • Mar 25, 2010 6:33am Mar 25, 2010 6:33am
  •  aeb
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So I suppose I would agree
 
 
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  • Mar 25, 2010 6:40am Mar 25, 2010 6:40am
  •  smikester
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Here is a chart:

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The flag formation in a down trend is quite common and it's a safe trade if it's played properly. We can see 2 flags, A & B. They are similar. The safe trade off the flag is the lowest price, shown by (i) and (ii)

Rather than watch their profits disappear most traders will close these shorts at the end of day 1 or 2. This results in a retracement shown as bar 1 and 2. Bar 3 tells us it might be time to short again. In any case, lots of traders will be trading this retracement (not my thing), and reversing it at or near the line (ii).
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  • Mar 25, 2010 8:08am Mar 25, 2010 8:08am
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yeah, I get the patterns and their self fulfilling nature. I was just musing on why and how it actually works that way. Thanks for the replies
 
 
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The market rarely falls evenly. The reason for the last day's fall was taking out stops of buyers in the 1.35 to 1.36 area. Their stops would have been around 1.34. I had sell orders waiting there just for that reason. To put it simply, when a buy closes, it's a sell. Now we are floating at 1.33 to 1.34. The market will probably retrace to test 1.34. Like me, there will be a lot of sellers there.
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It is a thing of simple beauty and elegance they way things generally work out. I too would love to see the market come back there to take my short. How far south it goes is none of my business, provided it gives me business that is all I will ever ask.
 
 
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