Hello All,

The solutions to the most challenging of situations faced by humanity have repeatedly emerged from the least likely of sources.

I have been looking at the possibility of getting EA's (Expert Advisors for Metatrader 4.0 and later) to perform naturally rather than trying get them to perform as I wish or forcing them against their nature.

To this end, I wish to share the results of how I have been able to have an EA do as bad as it can possibly do, then reverse the actions of said trades. I hope that it will be of interest to as many people as possible and in so doing we may just be able to find the solution in a most unconventionalway.

I am not a programmer. I just use EA's and trade manually.

If I may, recall that the best F1 drivers (for example) don't know much if anything about the design of the vehicle in it's entirety, BUT they do know how to get the best out of it on the track (or to do what they will with said machines). This is my approach, as I view programming and EA's (the machines) as a means to an end, little else.

Optimization Results/Settings (Alpari –UK); optimization parameter - Balance:

PASS-> 128; PROFIT-> 300.98; TOTAL TRADES->25; PROFIT FACTOR-> 1.06; EXPECTED PAYOFF->12.04; DrawDown $-> 4247.25; DrawDown % -> 83.06%; tp=490; sl=500; MaximumRisk=0.57; x1=32; x2=187; x3=53; x4=299; mn=878

1. Bars in test 8124

2. Ticks modelled 15243

3. Modelling quality n/a

4. Mismatched charts errors 0

5. Initial deposit 3000.00

6. Total net profit -2528.09

7. Profit Factor : 0.47

Win/Loss = 0.5714

Expectancy: - 0.47

Expected Loss: - 2,217

Performance : - 84.27 %

Gross profit 2229.25

8. Gross loss -4757.34

10. Expected payoff -114.91

11. Absolute drawdown 2718.61

12. Maximal drawdown 4238.78 (93.77%)

13. Relative drawdown 93.77% (4238.78)

14. Total trades 22

15. Short positions (won %) 9 (44.44%)

16. Long positions (won %) 13 (30.77%)

17. Profit trades (% of total) 8 (36.36%)

18. Loss trades (% of total) 14 (63.64%)

a. Largest

19. profit trade 845.14

20. loss trade -1255.88

a. Average

21. profit trade 278.66

22. loss trade -339.81

a. Maximum

23. consecutive wins (profit in money) 2 (375.69)

24. consecutive losses (loss in money) 2 (-2099.97)

a. Maximal

25. consecutive profit (count of wins) 845.14 (1)

26. consecutive loss (count of losses) -2099.97 (2)

a. Average

27. consecutive wins 1

28. consecutive losses 2

Remember! Forum

I have attached the grphical representation of this forward test as well as the expert advisor used seperately. If anyone knows how to display the MT4 test graph in a discussion please post the steps. I don't know how to so I have added as PDF.

Looking forward to a spirited and respectful series of interchange and sharing.

Bless

Fear Not! for those that are for us are more than those against. PEACE!

The solutions to the most challenging of situations faced by humanity have repeatedly emerged from the least likely of sources.

I have been looking at the possibility of getting EA's (Expert Advisors for Metatrader 4.0 and later) to perform naturally rather than trying get them to perform as I wish or forcing them against their nature.

To this end, I wish to share the results of how I have been able to have an EA do as bad as it can possibly do, then reverse the actions of said trades. I hope that it will be of interest to as many people as possible and in so doing we may just be able to find the solution in a most unconventionalway.

I am not a programmer. I just use EA's and trade manually.

If I may, recall that the best F1 drivers (for example) don't know much if anything about the design of the vehicle in it's entirety, BUT they do know how to get the best out of it on the track (or to do what they will with said machines). This is my approach, as I view programming and EA's (the machines) as a means to an end, little else.

**Here goes... lets see who has an EA that can perform worse than I have been able to get from this :**Optimization Results/Settings (Alpari –UK); optimization parameter - Balance:

__Back tested Result & Parameters:__PASS-> 128; PROFIT-> 300.98; TOTAL TRADES->25; PROFIT FACTOR-> 1.06; EXPECTED PAYOFF->12.04; DrawDown $-> 4247.25; DrawDown % -> 83.06%; tp=490; sl=500; MaximumRisk=0.57; x1=32; x2=187; x3=53; x4=299; mn=878

**Corresponding Forward Test Results:**1. Bars in test 8124

2. Ticks modelled 15243

3. Modelling quality n/a

4. Mismatched charts errors 0

5. Initial deposit 3000.00

6. Total net profit -2528.09

7. Profit Factor : 0.47

Win/Loss = 0.5714

Expectancy: - 0.47

Expected Loss: - 2,217

Performance : - 84.27 %

Gross profit 2229.25

8. Gross loss -4757.34

**9.****Profit factor 0.47**10. Expected payoff -114.91

11. Absolute drawdown 2718.61

12. Maximal drawdown 4238.78 (93.77%)

13. Relative drawdown 93.77% (4238.78)

14. Total trades 22

15. Short positions (won %) 9 (44.44%)

16. Long positions (won %) 13 (30.77%)

17. Profit trades (% of total) 8 (36.36%)

18. Loss trades (% of total) 14 (63.64%)

a. Largest

19. profit trade 845.14

20. loss trade -1255.88

a. Average

21. profit trade 278.66

22. loss trade -339.81

a. Maximum

23. consecutive wins (profit in money) 2 (375.69)

24. consecutive losses (loss in money) 2 (-2099.97)

a. Maximal

25. consecutive profit (count of wins) 845.14 (1)

26. consecutive loss (count of losses) -2099.97 (2)

a. Average

27. consecutive wins 1

28. consecutive losses 2

Remember! Forum

**Rule #3**: if there is anything commercial that you wish to share, kindly do so via PM or e-mail, it cannot be explicitly shared here, just the rules...I have attached the grphical representation of this forward test as well as the expert advisor used seperately. If anyone knows how to display the MT4 test graph in a discussion please post the steps. I don't know how to so I have added as PDF.

Looking forward to a spirited and respectful series of interchange and sharing.

Bless

Fear Not! for those that are for us are more than those against. PEACE!

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