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  • #701
  • Aug 13, 2025 9:03am Aug 13, 2025 9:03am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I agree....anti-American shots were fired, I fired back. All done. No more politics please.
Good stuff. Sooooo....im interested in darwinex Zero....How are you finding the slow and steady approach? I assume you're doing it alongside something more aggressive?
  • #702
  • Aug 13, 2025 9:28am Aug 13, 2025 9:28am
Quoting Zuke
{quote} Good stuff. Sooooo....im interested in darwinex Zero....How are you finding the slow and steady approach? I assume you're doing it alongside something more aggressive?
Yes, I have 3 Darwins...one swing trading FX, one day trading futures and another I will just trade gold and JPY crosses.
First one started January, 30K allocation every month, currently 90K in seed, generates $550-600 quarterly. This one should be Gold within 2 months and open to investors.
Second one started April, same deal allocated every month, except last, traded poorly and lost allocation so currently 60K in seed, first payout in Sept, should be close to $600.
Third one, started in June, should cross the line today for allocation and I will stop trading this one for remainder of month.
You are correct, this is a minimum 12-18 month project before any significant rewards will be seen.
Currenlt have 1 Tradeify STF 150K, will have payout EOM and purchase 4 more. I have posted results in here, but average $250-$300 per day, so once all 5 are qualified, should more than be enough while waiting for Darwinex AUM to grow.
I also have 1 TPT 25K about to pass by probably tomorrow, 25 K is just the better deal there. I will also more than likely be firing up a 50K Tradeday within next 2-3 weeks.
I may explore Topstep and MFFU (again) in the future.
I do not buy max accounts at first any longer, I buy one and use payout to max out. This way, if I fail, I've failed one.
  • #703
  • Aug 13, 2025 9:46am Aug 13, 2025 9:46am
Tradeify ,month to date..........August shaping up well. Once again trading 7 micros on MYM and MES.

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  • #704
  • Aug 13, 2025 9:51am Aug 13, 2025 9:51am
Quoting pipmaster77
I buy one and use payout to max out.

This makes a lot of sense to me. I’ve always thought one way forward, with these things, is to start with a cheap one and use the proceeds from it to pay for more/bigger/better.

It strikes me that to make the thing worth doing seriously, you have to have enough of an edge and enough reliability effectively to do it multiple times (or some equivalent to “multiple times”) anyway, so there’s no real downside to doing it this way?

And very little to gain by trying to do it in a hurry?

I always wonder whether there are people who really do have a genuine edge but still blow the thing in the early stages by hurrying too much with too big position sizing, or whatever?
Amelia
  • #705
  • Aug 13, 2025 9:56am Aug 13, 2025 9:56am
@monty, it looks like BGF has been reading your posts as well. Too much of a coincidence.
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  • #706
  • Aug 13, 2025 10:19am Aug 13, 2025 10:19am
Quoting Amelia-A
{quote} This makes a lot of sense to me. I’ve always thought one way forward, with these things, is to start with a cheap one and use the proceeds from it to pay for more/bigger/better. It strikes me that to make the thing worth doing seriously, you have to have enough of an edge and enough reliability effectively to do it multiple times (or some equivalent to “multiple times”) anyway, so there’s no real downside to doing it this way? And very little to gain by trying to do it in a hurry? I always wonder whether there are people who really do have...
I treat ALL prop accounts, including the 5 CFD firms I was funded with, as peronal accounts of the size of max loss. The balance is not real, however, it does provide the BUYING POWER (intentionally, of course, easier to blow account) of said balance.
  • #707
  • Aug 13, 2025 10:33am Aug 13, 2025 10:33am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I treat ALL prop accounts, including the 5 CFD firms I was funded with, as peronal accounts of the size of max loss. The balance is not real, however, it does provide the BUYING POWER (intentionally, of course, easier to blow account) of said balance.

Thanks, yes - I understand (I think). You’re treating a “funded account” (whether it’s actually funded at all, or not) of a nominal $100k with a $4 max drawdown like you’d treat an account with $4k of your own money.

Which makes complete sense, of course.

These firms should all be talking about a “max-5-lot account”, really, rather than calling it a “$50k account”. (I’d still trade 2-3 micro’s with it, myself.)

(OMG, Darwinex is hard to understand!!.)
Amelia
  • #708
  • Aug 13, 2025 11:05am Aug 13, 2025 11:05am
Quoting Amelia-A
{quote} Thanks, yes - I understand (I think). You’re treating a “funded account” (whether it’s actually funded at all, or not) of a nominal $100k with a $4 max drawdown like you’d treat an account with $4k of your own money. Which makes complete sense, of course. These firms should all be talking about a “max-5-lot account”, really, rather than calling it a “$50k account”. (I’d still trade 2-3 micro’s with it, myself.) (OMG, Darwinex is hard to understand!!.)
max lot account makes other measurable parts weird using money value is easier. How to measure drawdown with max lot? ticks?
  • #709
  • Aug 13, 2025 11:28am Aug 13, 2025 11:28am
Quoting Takisd
hey Expo, check toritrades on x she is starting to be new jessica.
Yeah, titty trades pops up on my YouTube feed a lot. If a middle aged fat guy had the same content, he'd be lucky to have 3 followers
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #710
  • Aug 13, 2025 11:34am Aug 13, 2025 11:34am
Quoting Takisd
max lot account makes other measurable parts weird

Hmm, yes, I do see what you mean - thanks.
Amelia
  • #711
  • Aug 13, 2025 12:10pm Aug 13, 2025 12:10pm
Quoting Zuke
{quote} Good stuff. Sooooo....im interested in darwinex Zero....How are you finding the slow and steady approach? I assume you're doing it alongside something more aggressive?
Tori was also in all the adds for FundedTrader at the time
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #712
  • Aug 13, 2025 1:52pm Aug 13, 2025 1:52pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Yeah, titty trades pops up on my YouTube feed a lot. If a middle aged fat guy had the same content, he'd be lucky to have 3 followers
she was having a kiss my ass meltdown earlier calling everyone bitch
  • #713
  • Aug 13, 2025 1:52pm Aug 13, 2025 1:52pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Tori was also in all the adds for FundedTrader at the time
she dated angelo
  • #714
  • Aug 13, 2025 3:08pm Aug 13, 2025 3:08pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, I have 3 Darwins...one swing trading FX, one day trading futures and another I will just trade gold and JPY crosses. First one started January, 30K allocation every month, currently 90K in seed, generates $550-600 quarterly. This one should be Gold within 2 months and open to investors. Second one started April, same deal allocated every month, except last, traded poorly and lost allocation so currently 60K in seed, first payout in Sept, should be close to $600. Third one, started in June, should cross the line today for allocation...
This is a great approach imo. I am similar in my approach to funded props. I don't have 1.2m in funding...I just have that as buying power. what I actually have is the equivalent of 96k of my own funds and treat it accordingly (NB the numbers are just for illustration!!)
  • #715
  • Aug 13, 2025 3:17pm Aug 13, 2025 3:17pm
Passed Take Profit Trader 25K in 5 days, which is the required minimum

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Now just need to get through the intraday trailing phase and then it's pretty much best payout plan in industry.....no consistency, no payout cap and daily payout.
  • #716
  • Aug 13, 2025 5:26pm Aug 13, 2025 5:26pm
Quoting mrdfx
@monty, it looks like BGF has been reading your posts as well. Too much of a coincidence. {image}
Check this BS i havenot received the money yet from futureselite yesterday they said check your rise we have sent it... These mofo's are really testing me now.......

ANd they are posting... OHHH we paid 1.3mil to traders complete BS.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #717
  • Aug 13, 2025 5:46pm Aug 13, 2025 5:46pm
Quoting pipmaster77
Passed Take Profit Trader 25K in 5 days, which is the required minimum {image} Now just need to get through the intraday trailing phase and then it's pretty much best payout plan in industry.....no consistency, no payout cap and daily payout.
Great work!
  • #718
  • Aug 13, 2025 5:54pm Aug 13, 2025 5:54pm
Just as I was singing fundingticks's praises, they come up with a "IP has been detected across multiple regions" email for the 3 accounts I just passed. This is pretty strange, because I'm only trading on the same computer for the past 3 days connected to my home fibre. Let's see how this gets resolved.
  • #719
  • Aug 13, 2025 6:11pm Aug 13, 2025 6:11pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Check this BS i havenot received the money yet from futureselite yesterday they said check your rise we have sent it... These mofo's are really testing me now....... ANd they are posting... OHHH we paid 1.3mil to traders complete BS.....
I'm guessing they're reverting as much as possible from your credit card charges first. Maybe then they'll pay the difference.
  • #720
  • Aug 13, 2025 7:39pm Aug 13, 2025 7:39pm
Quoting maltrader
Just as I was singing fundingticks's praises, they come up with a "IP has been detected across multiple regions" email for the 3 accounts I just passed. This is pretty strange, because I'm only trading on the same computer for the past 3 days connected to my home fibre. Let's see how this gets resolved.
That's such bullshit. I informed Tradeify before I went on vacation a couple of weeks ago that I'd be out of state and on another IP address.......they said you can trade, don't worry.
I'm telling you all.....most of these start ups have no money.....they are simply hoping to generate a lot of eval fees and obtain a high failure rate.
There NEEDS to be a much tougher barrier of entry.
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