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  • #10,561
  • Aug 29, 2022 3:32am Aug 29, 2022 3:32am
Quoting Profit-men
https://www.fundedtradingplus.com/ Hi.This prop has no time limits. I like the model - Advanced trader. Your thoughts gentlemen!?
Trailing dd. Yuck.

Quoting 1odi
who is going to give u an oportunity or a shot at something for nothing? some people just live in lala land. everything works on the laws of supply and demand, from ur supermarkets to casinos and whatnot. why don t these propfirms let u try out for free for a year or so till u make 10%? with no upfront cost to u, and if u do make it and u r semafor system hits a good month as u pointed out, u shoud be given 100k or more to trade with, again with no cost to you (even tho there are costs on a monthly basis for the props). or maybe u want like Schaub...
It's not even 10%p.m. MFF is literally 6&2&5%. AND if you're not at 6% but at a reasonable level without gambling you'll still get the extension. But 6%pm is very close to the level where one would have to ask, why do you even want to trade?
  • #10,562
  • Aug 29, 2022 4:47am Aug 29, 2022 4:47am
Quoting muir
{quote} Trailing dd. Yuck. {quote} It's not even 10%p.m. MFF is literally 6&2&5%. AND if you're not at 6% but at a reasonable level without gambling you'll still get the extension. But 6%pm is very close to the level where one would have to ask, why do you even want to trade?
I can confirm that, I was just granted my 30 day extension today
  • #10,563
  • Aug 29, 2022 5:10am Aug 29, 2022 5:10am
Quoting Profit-men
https://www.fundedtradingplus.com/ Hi.This prop has no time limits. I like the model - Advanced trader. Your thoughts gentlemen!?
Surgetrader also has no time limits. But they both use EightCap as their broker, too bad.
  • #10,564
  • Aug 29, 2022 5:31am Aug 29, 2022 5:31am
Does anyone know how is the process of requesting a scaling in The Funder Trader ? It's by email ? Discord ? I guess it's not automatic ?
  • #10,565
  • Aug 29, 2022 5:56am Aug 29, 2022 5:56am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} I can confirm that, I was just granted my 30 day extension today
did you inbox them via mail for the extention?
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #10,566
  • Aug 29, 2022 5:57am Aug 29, 2022 5:57am
Quoting muir
{quote} Trailing dd. Yuck. {quote} It's not even 10%p.m. MFF is literally 6&2&5%. AND if you're not at 6% but at a reasonable level without gambling you'll still get the extension. But 6%pm is very close to the level where one would have to ask, why do you even want to trade?
do you have to email them if you want extention and you havent achieved the 6%?
I am what Many Dream to be but only a few can achieve, im a part of the 1%
  • #10,567
  • Edited 7:54am Aug 29, 2022 7:43am | Edited 7:54am
Quoting OutThere
Most these prop firms, actually all of them follow the same model. They need you to make 5 to 10% or something in that ballpark within a month or so. Then maybe a second round with reduced targets. If you make it, then they let you earn whatever at your own pace. So, my question is, is there any other line of work or profession that demands something similar? For example, are you expected to run a 100 meter dash and beat the timer before you can do a marathon? Do you have to sell out a stadium before you can do your travelling road show taking your...
Hate responding to you, as I know it is a complete waste of time and energy, but wanted to Thank You for the post promoting prop firms........
Best example of what you are asking for is FOREX itself..........When someone deposits $500 or $1,000 in a "personal" account......although it is not required, the vast majority are going to trade that amount with high risk to get to an amount they can actual make money from. So one may risk 5-10% per trade to grow the account. Once they hit the amount where they can earn whatever the goal is, risk will be scaled back to 1% or less per trade as the account grows.
Difference is, with a prop, you pay the $500 or $1,000, trade with higher risk initially and you end up with 10,15, even 20x your original deposit. I am talking max loss here, not the equity, as max loss is the only amount that matters. The fee is also refunded so now there is ZERO RISK.......NONE, NADA,ZILCH. For example, MFF you pay $979 for a 200K challenge. Trade the $979 in your own account and hit the numbers they are asking in the 2 stages, you end up with $2,305. Instead, they give you $200K with 12% DD. Last time I checked $24,000 was 10.4121475 greater than $2,305. So from that point on, every $200 you earn in your personal account, would be $2,000 with the prop, every $2,000 in personal account would be $20,000, etc, etc.
Feel free to look around, I will not post it again, but there is actually a spreadsheet showing what value you get per prop firm vs. trading it yourself.
  • #10,568
  • Aug 29, 2022 8:00am Aug 29, 2022 8:00am
Quoting Soros
{quote} do you have to email them if you want extention and you havent achieved the 6%?
Yes, 6% is automatic, under 6%, must request by email.
  • #10,569
  • Aug 29, 2022 8:25am Aug 29, 2022 8:25am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Hate responding to you, as I know it is a complete waste of time and energy, but wanted to Thank You for the post promoting prop firms........ Best example of what you are asking for is FOREX itself..........When someone deposits $500 or $1,000 in a "personal" account......although it is not required, the vast majority are going to trade that amount with high risk to get to an amount they can actual make money from. So one may risk 5-10% per trade to grow the account. Once they hit the amount where they can earn whatever the goal is, risk...
Yea, complete waste of your time.

As Taksid said, the entitlement syndrome along with the victim mentality.

"The prop firm made me fail"

"They're out to get me"

"They're looking for suckers"

I could care less what the prop firm is "looking" for it's all about what I'm looking for. And they provide exactly what I'm looking for and now I'm freerolling my way to piles of their cash.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #10,570
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:12am Aug 29, 2022 9:12am
Quoting Takisd
Outthere, I like your comparisons but I feel like its going somewhere no trader should go, and that is entitlement. The prop firms themselves present the decision on whether you want to use them or not before you join them. So they don't owe anyone anything as non purchase is an option thus not being the monkey on a rope. There have been many prop firms in the past, particularly in futures, where there was a 6 month trial period on sim with no upfront but a rigorous screencheck before even getting to sim with interviews and math exams, the turnover...
Ok, to summurize, you are saying just put up and shut up and you are saying if you are putting up and enjiying yourself in your role, then you will obviously be shutting up. Got it.
  • #10,571
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:18am Aug 29, 2022 9:18am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I think I could answer all of your questions, but I do not understand why do you ask those ? What is real purpose or intention to ask these questions ? Tell me more.
Do you live in Russia or NK?
If so, you are well trained not to question authority and do as you are told. You are much needed in your role, otherwise the alpha pschos of the world wouldn't be able to display their talents to control the masses so shamelessly.
  • #10,572
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:20am Aug 29, 2022 9:20am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Hate responding to you, as I know it is a complete waste of time and energy, but wanted to Thank You for the post promoting prop firms........ Best example of what you are asking for is FOREX itself..........When someone deposits $500 or $1,000 in a "personal" account......although it is not required, the vast majority are going to trade that amount with high risk to get to an amount they can actual make money from. So one may risk 5-10% per trade to grow the account. Once they hit the amount where they can earn whatever the goal is, risk...
I didn't read past your openning sentence. Same to you.
  • #10,573
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:23am Aug 29, 2022 9:23am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} {image}No need to answer.
One hell of a smart guy is PaulMF. Wish could come back.
FYI, I was questioning scammers long before he jouned in.
  • #10,574
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:28am Aug 29, 2022 9:28am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I didn't read past your openning sentence. Same to you.
Of course you didn't.....because there is no intelligent rebuttal to what I've posted, unless you are simply saying....."Yes, I want to earn 10% of what I could for the same effort"....and if that's true, more power to ya...to each their own.
  • #10,575
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:49am Aug 29, 2022 9:49am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Ok, to summurize, you are saying just put up and shut up and you are saying if you are putting up and enjiying yourself in your role, then you will obviously be shutting up. Got it.

What I am saying is, if you buy something that you know what it is, then complain about it, you're an idiot. You have the choice to buy or not. If you don't like it, doesn't mean someone has to change to meet your desires. But since you're back here without Pauline whos going to echo your sentiments of entitlement.
  • #10,576
  • Aug 29, 2022 9:49am Aug 29, 2022 9:49am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Of course you didn't.....because there is no intelligent rebuttal to what I've posted, unless you are simply saying....."Yes, I want to earn 10% of what I could for the same effort"....and if that's true, more power to ya...to each their own.
As an ardent supporter of the orange marnalade and his actions, election denier, anti vaxxer, Russia supporter (no condemnation of the invasion) and most of all, as someone who challenged me to a live account contest and lost so badly, you have no credibility with me.
  • #10,577
  • Aug 29, 2022 10:14am Aug 29, 2022 10:14am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} What I am saying is, if you buy something that you know what it is, then complain about it, you're an idiot. You have the choice to buy or not. If you don't like it, doesn't mean someone has to change to meet your desires. But since you're back here without Pauline whos going to echo your sentiments of entitlement.
You make the perfect monkey in the monkey/master pic. You feed your master with your earnings and don't question anything. In fact you are one that nozzled to the master hinting to become enslaved. Maybe you even go to your tribe and recruite more monkeys because you like that life style of being fed a portion of your earnings. I guess there will always be Uncle Toms in this world.
  • #10,578
  • Aug 29, 2022 10:19am Aug 29, 2022 10:19am
Quoting TrAndy1
For friends of the idea of position sizing or scaling there is still one thing to mention to make this thought more complete. You can also do instant scaling in, meaning that on every point or pipette your position goes in favor making a new high for your equity you add to your overall position. Then you have the advantage of Euler too. That means that you will sooner profit from your RRR trade than double it on larger fixed points. That means a 4:1 RRR trade already has a ca. 54:1 RRR with scaling. A 5:1 RRR trade is 148:1 RRR, a 6:1 RRR basic...
And if it reverses?
  • #10,579
  • Aug 29, 2022 10:20am Aug 29, 2022 10:20am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} As an ardent supporter of the orange marnalade and his actions, election denier, anti vaxxer, Russia supporter (no condemnation of the invasion) and most of all, as someone who challenged me to a live account contest and lost so badly, you have no credibility with me.
1. Those who believe Biden won are the actual election deniers.........just keep letting them feed and control your brain...typical sheep.No way Biden got 81 million votes, most in American history, campaigning from his basement.
2. The vaccine has now been proven over and over as ineffective. How many boosters you on now......5??? 6???. It is a complete crock of shit.
3. Not a Russia supporter, not quite clear on why you would assume that.
4. It was the 5%ers, which I PUBLICLY admitted I was wrong on their model and continue to speak against it and PUBLICLY admitted you were right.
  • #10,580
  • Aug 29, 2022 10:23am Aug 29, 2022 10:23am
Sorry, but if OutThere is only out here to make a dispute with each other, that is not constructive to anyone. It only looks like that he cannot meet Phase 1 criteria by trying it hard. But consistency can only be achieved with persistency. So do your own homework and make your own research. Those Prop firms goals are still doable.
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