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  • #45,901
  • Jan 2, 2025 11:18pm Jan 2, 2025 11:18pm
Quoting josh1111
{quote} I have passed 10 all together. 5-300K and 5 150K's Not sure you noticed but these accounts only have a $85 activation fee but only if you pass today. Other wise it is $340 for the $300K's Very gambly multiplied times my best trading. Trying to pass or blow more now. The PA's I will trade normally.
Maybe this calculation can help a little, although it might not suit everyone. Just save on costs. Good luck.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post15104922
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  • #45,902
  • Jan 2, 2025 11:41pm Jan 2, 2025 11:41pm
Quoting doji
{quote} I guess I'm going with Hantec Trader, after all. They fulfill my two top requirements for CFD props at this point in time: a) backing by a reputable, established broker b) non- simulated account in the funded stage ( I think that props who actually provide real capital are more trustworthy) Best of health in the New Year, takisd! Btw, why do you say OriginFX is dubious?
Just chatted with Hantec Trader support--and confirmed that, appearances to the contrary, even if you pass their challenge and get to the funded trader stage, you still won't be given actual capital to trade.

So disappointed, to be honest!
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  • #45,903
  • Jan 2, 2025 11:57pm Jan 2, 2025 11:57pm
Quoting doji
{quote} Just chatted with Hantec Trader support--and confirmed that, appearances to the contrary, even if you pass their challenge and get to the funded trader stage, you still won't be given actual capital to trade. So disappointed, to be honest!
Who gets actual capital to trade with in prop firms? No-one.
No prop firm provide actual capital to trade even if it is broker backed.
You think all these future props provide actual capital?
  • #45,904
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:01am Jan 3, 2025 12:01am
Quoting montygoldy
Alright Gents... Need to give my regards n love to MFFU.... They seriously want me to become a champion LIVE trader..... THey have blocked me from purchasing any evals.. So recently i lost the 50k SIM i had after getting a payout out of it as the challenge was to get two payouts n then move to live. HAd 900$ worth of drawdown so lost it in NY session nasdaq bullshit... Now today the RISK team gave me a FREE ACCOUNT yes you read it right FREEEEEEEEE ACCOUNT with a different challenge. They asking me to pull...
I don't understand what's happening in trading world.
Retail brokers don't pay when you make profit.
Prop firms banned you when you start pulling out consistent payouts.
Where should profitable traders do trading then??
If we always have insecurity of payout denials & account disabled??
  • #45,905
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:29am Jan 3, 2025 12:29am
Quoting montygoldy
Alright Gents... Need to give my regards n love to MFFU.... They seriously want me to become a champion LIVE trader..... THey have blocked me from purchasing any evals.. So recently i lost the 50k SIM i had after getting a payout out of it as the challenge was to get two payouts n then move to live. HAd 900$ worth of drawdown so lost it in NY session nasdaq bullshit... Now today the RISK team gave me a FREE ACCOUNT yes you read it right FREEEEEEEEE ACCOUNT with a different challenge. They asking me to pull...
Sorry if I am not overly enthusiastic but they just taking care of their own asses. If they would open the option to buy evals again they are in danger of losing 6x3K again before putting you to live- the way they did it costs them nothing to put you on live plus they made your life harder because they know well you are used to much higher daily targets.
But- it is excellet that you post here, if you would be a private trader you would probably get nada. Plus they are clearly afraid of your trading. So prove them wrong on this 20x 100 journey.

Quoting genuine007
{quote} I don't understand what's happening in trading world. Retail brokers don't pay when you make profit. Prop firms banned you when you start pulling out consistent payouts. Where should profitable traders do trading then?? If we always have insecurity of payout denials & account disabled??
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  • #45,906
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:34am Jan 3, 2025 12:34am
Quoting genuine007
Retail brokers don't pay when you make profit.
I don't know what retail brokers you've used but I've never been denied payment from any retail broker over the last 18 years of trading
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  • #45,907
  • Jan 3, 2025 12:57am Jan 3, 2025 12:57am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I don't know what retail brokers you've used but I've never been denied payment from any retail broker over the last 18 years of trading
Feeling great to hear that positive news.
I always have some insecurity nowadays.
Because till now nothing good happened to me in trading.
Earlier I just keep losing money over half a decade.
Now when I understood trading and construct an edge, I just keep hearing bad news regarding broker cheats, account disabled, withdrawals rejected & stuff like that.
I cannot make money in 1 month. I need couple of years to compound my account & therefore a big amount of my money & profits will stay with the broker, so I wanna be sure that no broker cheat me. Otherwise I can never recover my money from this market.
  • #45,908
  • Jan 3, 2025 1:12am Jan 3, 2025 1:12am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I don't know what retail brokers you've used but I've never been denied payment from any retail broker over the last 18 years of trading
you are right . even 18 years ago there was so many market maker brokers out there. when you did make 400% in a 1 month they just closed your accounts, but still you got your money paid. not paid out most of time only happens with scam brokers or when trader tried to cheat broker (latency arbitrage or other), but of ocurse a lot of market makers dont want your business when you are to successful (because its there loss), but no need to choose this brokers when there are enough a book, ecn, stp brokers out there.
  • #45,909
  • Jan 3, 2025 1:37am Jan 3, 2025 1:37am
Quoting doji
{quote} Just chatted with Hantec Trader support--and confirmed that, appearances to the contrary, even if you pass their challenge and get to the funded trader stage, you still won't be given actual capital to trade. So disappointed, to be honest!
Its because if they didnt do that they will go bankrupt
  • #45,910
  • Jan 3, 2025 2:57am Jan 3, 2025 2:57am
Looks our tick tick has sales again. Discount is slightly less than before. I think it was 40%, then 35%, and now 30% for the direct accounts.
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  • #45,911
  • Jan 3, 2025 3:20am Jan 3, 2025 3:20am
Can someone tell me what is the spread of blueguardian with US30, BTC and XAU? thanks.
  • #45,912
  • Jan 3, 2025 3:34am Jan 3, 2025 3:34am
Quoting maltrader
Looks our tick tick has sales again. Discount is slightly less than before. I think it was 40%, then 35%, and now 30% for the direct accounts. {image}
Have you already traded with them ? I don't know what project x is but I'm interested in their direct funded accounts.
  • #45,913
  • Jan 3, 2025 5:41am Jan 3, 2025 5:41am
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} Sorry if I am not overly enthusiastic but they just taking care of their own asses. If they would open the option to buy evals again they are in danger of losing 6x3K again before putting you to live- the way they did it costs them nothing to put you on live plus they made your life harder because they know well you are used to much higher daily targets. But- it is excellet that you post here, if you would be a private trader you would probably get nada. Plus they are clearly afraid of your trading. So prove them wrong on this 20x 100 journey....
i agree with every bit of it ….. but the thing they could have directly said you lost live tata bye.. instead giving free challenges… you’re right there is no earning potential so not putting any efforts already completed 2 days of 100$…. 100 is a piece of cake….
like what ticktick did paayment gateway audit and blocked me purchasing anything n remember i just purchased once n got the payout and blew them thats its here are people blowing them so many times rhey dont have any issue….
i asked the support again is it done for fun they said there is no eta for this can take time i mean its already couple of weeks ……
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  • #45,914
  • Jan 3, 2025 6:44am Jan 3, 2025 6:44am
Quoting danmlt44
{quote} Have you already traded with them ? I don't know what project x is but I'm interested in their direct funded accounts.
ProjectX is a web-based futures platform. It's used by topstepX, blue guardian futures, alpha futures, etc.

https://www.projectx.com/
  • #45,915
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:09am Jan 3, 2025 7:09am
In context of futures prop firm trading & their rules : -

What is Micro Cost Premium ?
What is Number of Contracts (Mini : Micro) 1:10 ?
What is called as "Scaling Plan" ?
  • #45,916
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:13am Jan 3, 2025 7:13am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Who gets actual capital to trade with in prop firms? No-one. No prop firm provide actual capital to trade even if it is broker backed. You think all these future props provide actual capital?
Futures (95% now) all have path to live, after certain amount of payounts or $$$$ amount in "live sim", you are moved to live....it is their way of taking profitable traders off the balance sheet as a liability.
  • #45,917
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:16am Jan 3, 2025 7:16am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I don't know what retail brokers you've used but I've never been denied payment from any retail broker over the last 18 years of trading
Never even been denied/refused offshore with the dreaded "unregulated"......Tradersway, FX Choice, Coinexx, Eagle FX, etc.
  • #45,918
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:18am Jan 3, 2025 7:18am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Feeling great to hear that positive news. I always have some insecurity nowadays. Because till now nothing good happened to me in trading. Earlier I just keep losing money over half a decade. Now when I understood trading and construct an edge, I just keep hearing bad news regarding broker cheats, account disabled, withdrawals rejected & stuff like that. I cannot make money in 1 month. I need couple of years to compound my account & therefore a big amount of my money & profits will stay with the broker, so I wanna be sure that no broker...
You are not losing money due to the brokers or prop firms though. Have you ever been due money and been denied? From any company?
  • #45,919
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:18am Jan 3, 2025 7:18am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Futures (95% now) all have path to live, after certain amount of payounts or $$$$ amount in "live sim", you are moved to live....it is their way of taking profitable traders off the balance sheet as a liability.
Yeah, I was watching videos on youtube, there I also see people getting emails that they are being moved to real capital now.
  • #45,920
  • Jan 3, 2025 7:20am Jan 3, 2025 7:20am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you are right . even 18 years ago there was so many market maker brokers out there. when you did make 400% in a 1 month they just closed your accounts, but still you got your money paid. not paid out most of time only happens with scam brokers or when trader tried to cheat broker (latency arbitrage or other), but of ocurse a lot of market makers dont want your business when you are to successful (because its there loss), but no need to choose this brokers when there are enough a book, ecn, stp brokers out there.
Well, except in the US, where, of course, they claim to have the best regulation........you can ONLY trade with market makers with ridiculous spreads and deceptive practices. You would think it would be the opposite, but we all know how the game is played.
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