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  • #37,141
  • May 31, 2024 5:49am May 31, 2024 5:49am
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} That’s WRONG. That is NOT what happened. Apex changed the rules RETROSPECTIVELY. What is wrong with these idiotic people who just won’t acknowledge proven facts that don’t suit their prejudices?!
Which rules were changes retrospectively ?
  • #37,142
  • May 31, 2024 5:50am May 31, 2024 5:50am
Quoting montygoldy
Alright update time. Activated 20x50k pa today.
So, what happened to your past 20x50K ? They were already busted ? I may missed that in your updates.
  • #37,143
  • May 31, 2024 5:52am May 31, 2024 5:52am
Quoting Capablanca
I have no time to see of videos that are posted

But plenty of time to deny that there's any evidence. My case rests.
  • #37,144
  • May 31, 2024 5:52am May 31, 2024 5:52am
In the meantime just an update from FXIFY. Another payout but this time I had to cry to their support for the payout to be processed because nothing happened after 48h. It took 3 working days.
Their backoffice is the most inconstant thing around. They can either process it in 3 hours or in 3 working days. It's like playing the lottery.
  • #37,145
  • May 31, 2024 5:56am May 31, 2024 5:56am
You can say what you think months ago you Karl quickly all the same trolls were saying futures props were honest but since apex is the top prop and not your affiliated firm you always attack and offcourse tradeday or which firm you advertise or are biased are the safe one and honest ahaha
And i dont have time to be here discussing with trolls i just expressed my opinion and all the trolls came out of attacking me ahaha
  • #37,146
  • May 31, 2024 6:00am May 31, 2024 6:00am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Which rules were changes retrospectively ?
Apex suddenly introduced (among a whole raft of other equally ridiculous nonsense, including a non-disclosure cause and a non-disparagement clause!!) a requirement that in order to be paid out, you had to be able to produce on request videos of yourself trading, which had (somehow?!) been filmed BEFORE they announced that.

Are you following the conversation at all, here, Capa?!

You have time to argue with people with whom you disagree. You have time to keep asking for evidence but when it's posted you don't have time to look at it? What's wrong with you today? You're surely better than this?!!!
  • #37,147
  • May 31, 2024 6:06am May 31, 2024 6:06am
yawn
  • #37,148
  • May 31, 2024 6:09am May 31, 2024 6:09am
Quoting Quickly
What's wrong with you today? You're surely better than this?!!!

He is. He is. Capa is a decent guy. He’s just missed the point, here. Having a bad day, or something. Talk to him another time.

Let’s all calm down, here. Including me!
  • #37,149
  • May 31, 2024 6:15am May 31, 2024 6:15am
Quoting Quickly
{quote} Apex suddenly introduced (among a whole raft of other equally ridiculous nonsense, including a non-disclosure cause and a non-disparagement clause!!) a requirement that in order to be paid out, you had to be able to produce on request videos of yourself trading, which had (somehow?!) been filmed BEFORE they announced that. Are you following the conversation at all, here, Capa?! You have time to argue with people with whom you disagree. You have time to keep asking for evidence but when it's posted you don't have time to look at it? What's...
The only thing I saw about that rule is a reddit with 6 months, without additional evidence, which for me is not enough.

Is it mentioned in Apex rules or in their discord / faqs that we need to film ourselves whenever we trade ? I would appreciate the link for that because I'm impacted with that.

For the remaining "change of rules" we saw that the fuss was not justified because all of them were already in their T&Cs before (though not strictly too enforced in the past).
  • #37,150
  • May 31, 2024 6:18am May 31, 2024 6:18am
Quoting fx_rookie
Yes here is one of their many 'rules' - You can not trade ORB?! WTF??
You can trade the ORB, what you cant do tho is straddle the ORB.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #37,151
  • May 31, 2024 6:23am May 31, 2024 6:23am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Which rules were changes retrospectively ?
None, its just more nonsense of his. Just like him mentioning the fall of MFF. At the time, all signs pointed to other firms collapsing before MFF being shuttered. MFF didn't rug and was not having payout issues, nothing. They got shut down by others.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #37,152
  • May 31, 2024 6:25am May 31, 2024 6:25am
Hi. Do you know any other props like DaikokuTrade who allows signal trading and has mt4+dxtrade add-on?
  • #37,153
  • May 31, 2024 6:25am May 31, 2024 6:25am
Quoting fx_rookie
I actually do not wait for a payout. I have just started trading my PA accounts. This is just an observation.
So you're screaming APEX is a scam but have active PA accounts with them???

Let me guess, you blown them all and turned sour as a result.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #37,154
  • May 31, 2024 6:38am May 31, 2024 6:38am
No, this is not the case. I have 10 evals and 10 PA. I opened them before all this bullshit.
I do not wait for payout, I do not trade DCA, I do not trade stradle ORB.
I do not see the problem with this strategies too.
It's all about the money. I am sure that people who DCA have better longevity for a while. It's all about the money that Apex do not want to pay them.

My comments are on the new situation.
  • #37,155
  • May 31, 2024 6:40am May 31, 2024 6:40am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Which rules were changes retrospectively ?
Quoting Cryptosurf
None, its just more nonsense of his.

It really is absolutely breathtaking, the way they scream for "evidence" and when it’s posted, they’re either "too busy to look" or they just ignore it all completely and say "none"!!!!

Honestly, you couldn’t make it up!!

FACT: Apex suddenly introduced (among a whole raft of other equally ridiculous nonsense, including a non-disclosure cause and a non-disparagement clause!!) a requirement that in order to be paid out, you had to be able to produce on request videos of yourself trading, which had (somehow?!) been filmed BEFORE they announced that.

If that isn't changing the rules retrospectively, what is?!
  • #37,156
  • May 31, 2024 6:44am May 31, 2024 6:44am
Quoting fx_rookie
No, this is not the case. I have 10 evals and 10 PA. I opened them before all this bullshit. I do not wait for payout, I do not trade DCA, I do not trade stradle ORB. I do not see the problem with this strategies too. It's all about the money. I am sure that people who DCA have better longevity for a while. It's all about the money that Apex do not want to pay them. My comments are on the new situation.
Do you realize that these strategies are not successful and would blow up your personal account as well?

Again, there is no ban on ORB trading. They are referring to straddling the ORB, straddling the news, etc.
DCA, specifically adding to losers is a also a poor strategy that's old as trading.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #37,157
  • May 31, 2024 6:47am May 31, 2024 6:47am
Quoting Quickly
{quote} {quote} It really is absolutely breathtaking, the way they scream for "evidence" and when it’s posted, they’re either "too busy to look" or they just ignore it all completely and say "none"!!!! Honestly, you couldn’t make it up!! FACT: Apex suddenly introduced (among a whole raft of other equally ridiculous nonsense, including a non-disclosure cause and a non-disparagement clause!!) a requirement that in order to be paid out, you had to be able to produce on request videos of yourself trading, which had (somehow?!) been filmed BEFORE they...

Or maybe people just know you're full of
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  • #37,158
  • May 31, 2024 6:59am May 31, 2024 6:59am
Cryptosurf, You are playing fool right?
How many people trading on Apex do you think have a chance in a long run with any strategy?
They have enough money to pay, but hey they want even more for themselves. MFF was able to pay with less restrictive rules, and so are they.

ps. My account here is from 2009. I have traded and tested strategies on MT4 probably long before you ever heard about trading. Seen a bunch of tricks in different brokers. Back in time there was a thing called Metatrader Virtual Dealer Plugin, which was used to mess with trades. I am pretty sure that there are more sophisticated ways to control what they want.
  • #37,159
  • May 31, 2024 7:04am May 31, 2024 7:04am
Quoting fx_rookie
Cryptosurf, You are playing fool right? How many people trading on Apex do you think have a chance in a long run with any strategy? They have enough money to pay, but hey they want even more for themselves. MFF was able to pay with less restrictive rules, and so are they. ps. My account here is from 2009. I have traded and tested strategies on MT4 probably long before you ever heard about trading. Seen a bunch of tricks in different brokers. Back in time there was a thing called Metatrader Virtual Dealer Plugin, which was used to mess with trades....
Sorry pal, your previous posts told me everything to know where your head is.

Quoting fx_rookie
My problem with ID verification is resolved. I was not even asked for new photos. So once again I will point out that this system have bad design (for me intentionally). It will be so easier if a problem exists to be double checked from staff and then, if needed, to bother the user. Trading should be boring and you need all your attention. One very hard learned lesson for me and I have not even mastered it for years yet, is not to trade if you are not calm and fully concentrated. All emotions are your enemy in trading. Ninjatrader is not a good...
The little things break you. You can never tell which end is up as a result.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #37,160
  • May 31, 2024 7:06am May 31, 2024 7:06am
OK : ) Wish you best! It seems that there is nothing I can discuss with you.
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