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  • #361
  • Jun 27, 2022 9:26pm Jun 27, 2022 9:26pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} I think you probably need to spend less time "posting" and wasting your time on this thread. Peter
Perhaps you should consider a career in politics. You are a master at avoiding answering questions.
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  • #362
  • Jun 28, 2022 12:07am Jun 28, 2022 12:07am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Perhaps you should consider a career in politics. You are a master at avoiding answering questions.



Not at all. Maybe it's time you learn you don't always get what you want all at once. I sense you have missed the point of this thread. It will be of no help to those people who are only interested in "playtime" and quick, easy answers. THAT is what makes it all worthwhile. This entire thread answers your questions, one way or another. At any time, everyone will have an opinion. Besides all of that, the questions you ask need to be for YOU to answer. It's your life, so live it.

Again I say, no attempts at manipulation will succeed here. Either apply yourself or do not apply yourself.

No shortcuts, Shortcuts are for victims.

Happy learning and trading.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #363
  • Jun 28, 2022 12:08am Jun 28, 2022 12:08am
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  • #364
  • Jun 28, 2022 1:25am Jun 28, 2022 1:25am
Quoting PeterCaleb
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Repetition is the mother of skill.
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  • #365
  • Jun 28, 2022 4:25am Jun 28, 2022 4:25am
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Repetition is the mother of skill.




Hehehe. Yeak Ok down the rabbit hole of cliches we go.

I guess that depends on whether or not a person just refers to google to tell them what words mean.

If you do something enough times then yes you and your body can mechanicalize it as a "skill" but at some point that is not nearly enough.


So I'm sorry, I don't know what you've been reading or who you've been listening to but repetition is a crafting tool not a thinking tool. So whenever you and other people want to use those memes and cliches apparently by B. Lee re: being more afraid of the man who has trained doing 1 kick a thousand times vs 1000 kicks once each ....... that "kick" is attached to a functioning brain and mind, not just someone throwing a kick and trying to use brute strength alone. So context is extremely important.

Any other silly cliches ?

This does not bode well for your case here.

I'm pretty sure you're just trying to waste my time because you have time to waste.


Ciao


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #366
  • Jun 28, 2022 7:39am Jun 28, 2022 7:39am
Here's a fun observable fact about Forex Factory etc and Trading and Trading "Psychology"......


The site itself, has lots and lots of "stuff" about all the superficial things about trading etc but has no Trading Psychology category. NONE.

THE MOST important and essential part of the ENTIRE situation to do with trading and there's no obvious main category for it on this site.


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Despite this being the case, there are SOME threads that talk about Trading Psychology etc (or at least TRY to) .....


https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/216213-the-winning-trading-psychology-sure-way-for

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/477051-trading-psychology-how-to-control-emotions-on

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/1150969-trading-psychology-how-profits-can-destabilize-traders-psych

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/930737-30-trading-70-psychology

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/863701-trading-psychology-that-we-need-to-succeed

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/507861-trading-psychology-share-what-has-helped-you


I'm sure there are others but they're a small handful I found on the go. However much of it is just the same run of the mill rhetoric ......


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.....and that's a REAL problem.

Why?

In real life you can't just keep running back to your nurse maid because you have a problem, you have to learn how to deal with it properly. So you can't keep coming back to a website whenever there's a problem.

So what can you do?

Stop pretending you're a hopeless weak person for starters. Next you have to face reality and see that you will need to learn something new and this will probably make you VERY uncomfortable and frustrated at times. But that is natural in the process of learning.

Too many people these days want or even insist on other people taking responsibility for THEIR learning. If you find this is you, then you have to make a choice - either try to play it safe and be like everyone else, or, allow your willingness to learn about trading and to learn how to trade FAR EXCEED any other motivation or goal. However the mistake most people make inline with this, is they assume that everything they will need to learn always relates directly and only directly to the world of trading. Nothing could further from the truth here.

All of the legitimately happy traders who have done well (or better than this) in real life (NOT on or gauged off some website) either that I have known or know of, DO NOT let other people set the standard for their learning. If you haven't already noticed while on this site, then I'm sure you will at some point, as you make your own observations, that these sites are a haven for trying to make clones out of people - both in their thinking AND their trading activities.

I would STRONGLY encourage you to realize the facts of the situation as follows .....

- No one will care about you and your trading capital MORE than you. PERIOD. End of Story.

So listening to some "anonymous person" about tactics or strategy or systems on sites like these is a great way to lose your money, lose time when learning and basically end up like many others - unfulfilled and broke.

For me my learning comes from and came from the real world where Life actually happens, not primarily off some silly website. This is not about promoting myself, merely to show that not everyone on this site rely on the assumptions people usually make.

People are funny when it comes to real life and making real choices. Fight or flight comes to mind. But there are others in there too.

I thought this was very important to talk about.


Happy learning and trading


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #367
  • Jun 28, 2022 8:03am Jun 28, 2022 8:03am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} Hehehe. Yeak Ok down the rabbit hole of cliches we go. I guess that depends on whether or not a person just refers to google to tell them what words mean. If you do something enough times then yes you and your body can mechanicalize it as a "skill" but at some point that is not nearly enough. So I'm sorry, I don't know what you've been reading or who you've been listening to but repetition is a crafting tool not a thinking tool. So whenever you and other people want to use those memes and cliches apparently by B. Lee re: being more afraid...
If I don’t accept your insults — it belongs to you, not to me. It’s all on you.
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  • #368
  • Jun 28, 2022 8:56pm Jun 28, 2022 8:56pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} If I don’t accept your insults — it belongs to you, not to me. It’s all on you.


If a person lives by merely 1 or 2 interpretations within a situation, then you are living in poverty. You are assuming I am being insulting and therefore you are too busy with that, to actually learn anything. Therefore, how can your thinking be trusted?

Every situation has 5 or 6 feasible interpretations carried within it at any moment. Once you have spent enough time observing instead of judging, a person can see this for themself.

So you can make whatever excuse helps you sleep at night but it doesn't change the fact that you already think you're "right". At this point, I want to say I don't know you and your background and who you really are in real life, so it would be unwise for me to "judge" you from what is only on the surface. However that doesn't mean I'm a fool who thinks myself all knowing. I simply return the "why" for me being here on this site. and it's not to dance with "erudites" or false intellectuals or anyone who runs interference. Or any other motivator that gets in the way of this thread's purpose.

Since you arrived on this thread, you have done what most do ...... you've begun with a simple agreeable aligning of a voice. Then later you've kicked and screamed bloody murder like a child because of "......." .... you fill in the blank for yourself. So I don't know or care what game you're playing, or how many "people" subscribe or unsubscribe to or from me or this thread. All of "that" is just children's games and has no lasting value.

I don't have any loyalty to false teachers or false people. Hence the reason why this thread mentions many of the things it does.

So for me, any gesture that tries to play the usual BS games seen all the time on "social media" sites and elsewhere, doesn't work here.

Either you have succumbed to these "ways" or you are up to something.

The last option of course is that you are a real person who genuinely desires to learn. But what is observed so far, is someone with layers of personal issues that is and will always interfere with your learning. THAT needs no judgment, merely a good set of eyes and brain that works. So there's no assumption of "personal imperfections" occurring here. And therefore no judgment or insults.

I know myself well enough to know where I stand and what my motivators are at any time.

The same cannot be said for most people on here.


Happy learning and trading

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #369
  • Jun 28, 2022 8:59pm Jun 28, 2022 8:59pm
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  • #370
  • Jun 28, 2022 10:09pm Jun 28, 2022 10:09pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} If a person lives by merely 1 or 2 interpretations within a situation, then you are living in poverty. You are assuming I am being insulting and therefore you are too busy with that, to actually learn anything. Therefore, how can your thinking be trusted? Every situation has 5 or 6 feasible interpretations carried within it at any moment. Once you have spent enough time observing instead of judging, a person can see this for themself. So you can make whatever excuse helps you sleep at night but it doesn't change the fact that you already...
Your post contains 24 variations of the word "YOU". Would be nice if your posts focused on trading rather than individuals.
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  • #371
  • Jun 29, 2022 12:07am Jun 29, 2022 12:07am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} If a person lives by merely 1 or 2 interpretations within a situation, then you are living in poverty. You are assuming I am being insulting and therefore you are too busy with that, to actually learn anything. Therefore, how can your thinking be trusted? Every situation has 5 or 6 feasible interpretations carried within it at any moment. Once you have spent enough time observing instead of judging, a person can see this for themself. So you can make whatever excuse helps you sleep at night but it doesn't change the fact that you already...
You mentioned game. This is more a dance.
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  • #372
  • Jun 29, 2022 3:36am Jun 29, 2022 3:36am
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  • #373
  • Jun 29, 2022 8:09pm Jun 29, 2022 8:09pm
I don't like to dance with pretended learners, pretenders, or "enlightened" people because they have little of any real substance to offer THEMSELVES. Therefore they still have not yet learned how to offer anything of substance to others. And so the circle is complete and they're right back where they started.

They have several shards of "knowledge" but then use the excuse that "this is a trading website" and we 'only' talk about "trading".

Here is what I say to that ------> RUBBISH !! Pure unadulterated rubbish !!!

What's pure gold is that 2022's version of the definition of "trading" has changed from its previous version of the last 10-20 years. And before that, it was something different. And will probably change yet again in the future

So IF that does not give you pause, when considering how "real" all these "people" are on these dinky-di websites, then you are choosing to learn the hard and expensive way ..... what this industry REALLY is all about.

A simple performance review of the site and its inhabitants shows very quickly just how small minded people CHOOSE to be and are. It also shows who considers it "their territory" and also shows many of the predators that exist.

These people will always "show you something interesting or helpful" ...... at first. But later on, if you're paying attention, you'll begin to notice that things are not what you thought they were. There's clue number one.

That's not an insult that is a simple observable truthful fact.

And I have found that anyone who says things in argument against well rounded observations is nothing but a gambler dressed up as something else entirely....... or are something far worse. So the reader of this needs to be very wary of people.

In 2022 there really is only ONE way you can approach your own trading .......


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Happy learning and trading


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #374
  • Jun 30, 2022 12:15am Jun 30, 2022 12:15am
Peter, if you were teaching someone how to fish, how long would it be before you actually took them to the water? Less than a day? Week? Month? Longer?

Would the fishing lesson include the history of civilization? Philosophy? Psychology?

How long before the hungry man actually gets to fish?
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  • #375
  • Jun 30, 2022 2:15am Jun 30, 2022 2:15am
Quoting TooSlow
Peter, if you were teaching someone how to fish, how long would it be before you actually took them to the water? Less than a day? Week? Month? Longer? Would the fishing lesson include the history of civilization? Philosophy? Psychology? How long before the hungry man actually gets to fish?

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  • #376
  • Jun 30, 2022 10:58pm Jun 30, 2022 10:58pm


How to improve your own investigations and deductive reasoning skills



It still fascinates me how people over the age of, let's say, 21, consider themself an adult or grown up , merely due to their age and what society will "let them do or have".

If you have a very close look at that statement you will notice there is no mention of any audit or proper evaluation method to arrive at any conclusion that a person IS in fact, an adult or a grown up by using ONLY those standards. It is merely assumed.

For the most part, unless you are a person who has 2 young children and one older one, 3 part time jobs and rent to pay ..... then you are probably using some of your time to chit chat to people, watch tv or movies, listen to pop music or any other thing that you consider "recreational". So in other words - you have free time.

On the flip side, the "modern person" expects to be treated nicely when faced with the reality of their chosen ignorance or laziness. They expect Life to be "kind" or show mercy or "be gentle". What they do not understand here (or simply will not acknowledge), is that Life is the greater presence here, not them. And so a kind of duality of respect needs to be present. For themself AND for Life.

You'll be happy to learn that some people in this world, have realized that it is a choice, to be ignorant and/or lazy, be it physically or mentally or other. And therefore, they see that the value they place on themself is directly related to how they use their time. Let me say that in a different way ........

If your self esteem and self worth is low, then you won't see any point in doing better.

Many people believe that one needs to do well in something to THEN succeed and therefore ..... then be confident.

But this "belief" has one very deep fatal flaw ........ "confidence" doesn't have a face or "know" what it is. So it doesn't discriminate or show bias or prejudice in any situation. Please re-read this carefully til you see what it is TRULY saying.

This is the problem with modern day "thinking" and pop psychology etc, it seeks only to treat a problem not cure it. So it'll dance around it but can never offer you a way "in" so you can solve you problem. So therefore, your cycle has only one option ... to restart.

People think all you need is "the cold hard facts" to be able to "trade". Others think that you just need the "basics". And other still, believe if you spend enough "time" doing it then you will learn. On their own, each approach is flawed and isolated and inevitably create more and more problems. Why? A tool or resource is not a solution. It can only be a stepping stone. It's similar to saying to someone that learning how to change a flat tyre IS driving. And if you've driven before, you KNOW there is a lot more involved than that.

Putting aside everything here, think for a moment on this - what would be the point in knowing the best kept secret to trading if you knew very little about anything else?

You would still need to learn the actual basics and the connectors right? Otherwise your "secret" won't make any sense and will not fit in anywhere, because it has no context to anchor to, to then see how it could/would benefit you.

So often I see people trying to share or show or "teach" the basics, or what they consider to be the basics. The problems begin, when a person does no independent investigations to legitimize what they read or saw. So in this way, their circle of knowledge is small = of themself AND this thing called trading.

The funny thing about learning how to trade, is, whatever you bring with you in the beginning, is what you have at your disposal when trying to make heads or tails of it all. So for eg. people who are too eager to "make money" have created a VERY LARGE blind spot for themself that others may take advantage of. It doesn't matter what their motivation is, simply that you, the person trying to learn, is not yet aware of this blind spot and until you close it off, others will do what they want with it.

Another funny thing about learning something in trading ....... "The BASICS" .... but according to whose standards? This is a rather juicy topic all on its own, however, I know that most people on this site don't have the stomach for it, or the backbone to speak about it, apart from the usual stuff they go on about.

In light of all of these points of reference, many people think they can cheat the system by not learning what needs to be learned beforehand.

Because I don't know who will read this, I will put a link below for the general populus that can help to get you started.....

https://www.wikihow.com/Think-Like-Sherlock-Holmes

Something I was taught when I was younger, is this ----

You can always tell a lot about a person by looking at their reason and motivation for doing something.

For example, IF you who reads this now, is a real person who actually wants to learn about trading and how to trade properly and are not interested in the melodrama between people, you first MUST acknowledge the bigger world it is part of. If you do, then you will protect and thus keep more of your money and also learn how to change it into something more/better. Real trading is not about the money alone, it is about adaptation and learning. No speculator on a website will tell you this because they're too busy speculating to see the importance of learning for its own reward.

= Reason and motivation


Consistency and Longevity.

The same two reasons used for trading are also used in learning in the real world.

Most people I have met in my life have very little knowledge of Life and the world they live in. Yet somehow they think that problems in their life are somebody else's fault or, that there's nothing you can do about anything. And these standards are what people pass on to their children through mere contact with their parents and others akin to this thinking. So why would it be surprising if you end up with "Like Father/Mother like Son/Daughter".

And so, I hope now, you see that it is impossible to isolate any subject or topic and by virtue of its own internal information and knowledge, deem it to be "complete" on its own.

Many ask me or complain that I make things too complicated or long-winded or confusing.

My response to that is this - Why do you think so little of yourself that you believe you deserve nothing good?

And learning IS good. With the appropriate motivator and manged properly, it can aid you in resolving many of your personal problems and ACTUALLY live.

"Trading" is only one small piece of what goes on every day in Life on this planet.

The real basics of trading are exactly the same for real Life.

Self respect. Self Worth. Seeking to Learn motivation. No interest in accolades/payoff for learning. Open to all connected topics and subjects. Foundation Building Process and Planning. Observation. Note taking. Review.

REAL self help is merely about doing the research to help yourself. You don't need fancy books or courses or therapy or seminars.

You need to be honest and open and truthful with yourself. Funny I know, considering where this is being written.

Overlapping basics are usually easy to spot once you get started. And keeping an eye out for these will speed up part of the process.


** Some of the things I hear a lot = "People don't really change". "Why are you trying to change me?" etc etc

Change happens every second of every period between sunup and sun down. It happens when you sleep and eat and work. THE CONTEXT may be different in different situations and this is what you will need to learn very well, so you see more of the situation than is made available to the typical person.

To investigate something you first need to know WHY you are doing it. If the outside world is the master of your motivation then you may find it more difficult.

Why?

The outside world is constantly trying to tell a person who they are and what they are what to think and how to think etc etc.

Once you stand back far enough you realize it's not real, (Not "The Matrix" "it's not real"), simply that it cannot tell you the answers to those pending questions that connect to you.

For most people this is scary. However, to genuinely get better at something you WILL change. It is impossible not to. As any process in or of you changes so too will you change with it. It's part of how Life perpetuates itself.

Unfortunately for people, there is no 1hr long youtube info-documentary video I can point out to help with this.

It's your Life so live it. Learn and Live. Live and Learn. To make things simple to get started though I say this - Either choose to learn for the love of learning and then be rewarded or, chase the outside world's idea of learning and remain scatterbrained, weak and ignorant.

Make your choice and then accept the responsibility and consequences.


Happy learning and Trading.


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #377
  • Jun 30, 2022 11:05pm Jun 30, 2022 11:05pm


Constant Vs Variable


The challenge for your life .....

You vs a chart .......


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List as many characteristics about you and then both charts, that are constantly present.

THEN ...

List as many characteristics about you that vary, from day to day, daytime to night time. And then list the same for each chart.


This is a simple test to see how much you understand yourself to THEN understand what you think you're seeing.

The interesting things about all of this is .....

There is a direct correlation between

1. What a person believes about themself

2. What they think they are seeing

3. What is there to see


Enjoy.


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #378
  • Edited 11:50pm Jul 9, 2022 11:36pm | Edited 11:50pm
Someone very recently messaged me asked me about how all of "this" (this thread etc) is going, is it helping, are people finding it useful, how to get more from it etc. Here is my reply (for educational use only)


Circles and Layers.

Every time it feel like you've gone in circles, try remembering that a circle has more than just 1 or 2 dimensions...... up-down and left-right.

This is the lesson of layering. Trading is no different to any activity when addressed in this way, instead of constantly chasing the carrot at the end of the stick.

Clear your mind of everything you know or think you know........ and start again. And do this every day in its beginning, to begin a routine of a fresh start. Go exactly back to a position where you know nothing about anything and definitely a place where you know nothing about trading or the world of money or financial markets. From here, you give yourself a chance to be consciously observant and learn something instead of just reacting to everything that comes into view. And a chance to re-experience some things, so you can look at it in a different way.

(Yes most people these days are not real people. Too much virtual "stuff" and not enough real life. People choose to escape or 'run-n-hide' and it's more and more obvious that they have lost permanently/temporarily misplaced that part of them that can and wants to learn just because it's interesting and fun to learn something new. And to do so without any regard to reward or payoff.)

If you are a person who pays more attention to information than anything else, then your knowledge of concepts and the 'general idea' of something needs work. I see from your interactions on FF that this is the case. Having arguments or disagreements with virtual people about 'details' and 'information' is exhausting and time consuming. This is why I don't just 'argue' with people, I challenge the basic fabric of what they "know" because concepts always have to exist and grow before details and information present themselves. Information never simply manifests itself out of thin air.

As I have stated before, creating your own living blueprint is the only way to fully see what is in front of you. Exactly as a detective would do with an investigation. The main difference here though, is you need to add to the blueprint the speculation of opinion and conjecture, so you have - facts, lies, exaggerations, things that are part-true and part-false and lastly ... context.

Doing it this way, you will have a more complete concept to work with and from, as you live your Life. This developed skill is not only useful to trading but to real life as well.

I do not believe you are stupid. I sense there is something else going on.

Re: Me and my approach with people ....

It would take far too long for me to delineate ALL the knowledge and information I have gathered in my lifetime, so it makes more sense to present a way to reach people using a soft AND a hard approach. I have no desire to be a false "......" you fill in the blank here. And so, people are left with the task of putting their best foot forward and trying to re-learn what it means to think like a human and not a 'person of society'.

The only way to re-learn this, is to DO. So I say to you, do.

This is why I present concentric circles in different ways to people. It is a simple yet efficient way to learn of how everything interacts and carries the relationships that have formed.

Surprisingly, it requires very little in the way of IQ and more in the area of CHOICE. Choice and the understanding that not everything in Life that needs to be learned, or can be learned, always has to carry the usual payoff.

Choices such as -
1. Do I believe I deserve to be alive?
2. Do I take a lot for granted? AKA ... Do I make a lot of assumptions about me other people and the world around me?
3. What do I think Life is really about?

The interesting thing about all of this 'FF stuff' ....

the same approach a person would use to observe and test a strategy, is EXACTLY the same approach a person would use to look themselves in the mirror and perform an audit of who they are, what they believe, what they stand for, what they know and understand and ..... what they are willing to protect.

So as much as 'the people' on these sites etc, kick and scream re: the things I say and do, it always comes full circle and Life presents the very same lesson..... in 1 or more forms. So after decades of being alive in this world, it becomes clear that it's extremely necessary and important to find a way to see things that offers depth instead of just information. This is one of my 'prized possessions' that I have shared. Young people seem to think old people have little to offer, and old people think someone like me is either foolish or crazy. But I think anyone who squanders their ability to think and feel and act, and therefore, learn, is destined to end up wasting their life.

So it simply comes down to a choice and then following through with that choice.

General=semi-general+semi-specific=Specific=semi-specific+semi-hyper-specific=Hyper-specific.

If a person believes their 'life story' then they cannot learn because there is no space for anything new.

To me, it always seems to come back to ....

- What does the person think and believe about themself, the people and the world around them. To me it's pointless 'just waiting for the bottom to fall out of everything' .... as if that is the ONLY option for how everything ends.

So, false inspirations and 'stuff', are not helpful.

You want to help yourself?... then learn to be a piping hot butter knife ready to cut through anything.

But a word of warning......

Most people look/feel as if they float around aimlessly and seem restless or unattentive to the direction they're taking. If you look at a microsecond of a person's life playing out, yes it may appear this way. However, all those microseconds are connected and once you put them together an observation can be determined. This observation must be connected to something deeper, something more substantial. Otherwise it's just an opinion or judgment. And here, is usually where people get lost due to the arguments of religion/anti-religion or politics or money or whatever it might be. These are distractions and must be understood and seen as what they truly are. Distractions.

So a person, any person, must have a deeper 'reason', a deeper presence of mind. Modern people, generally, are probably the most illiterate and ignorant of all the known generations of humans, mainly due to an unnatural excitement toward electrical technology - both internal and external to the human body. Again, something to look square in the eyes and face. This excitement doesn't create intelligence, it merely generates false confidence and leads to more assumptions.

So a few living examples of a deeper mind -

The destructive derivations that come from a pro or anti style attitude.

Believing something or "knowing" something but having no idea where it originated.

Accepting what's presented without asking questions.

Right fighting.

So, someone can be religious without the mask of "being religious".

And someone can be learning something without it feeling like they're back at school and being forced to 'do it'.

Know, Aware, Think. Feel. Believe. Accept. Dispute. Look. See.

Seeing as our interactions have all happened online, I do not know you personally. But that doesn't mean I have not experienced anything you have. It merely offers me the chance to offer and present and challenge. The rest is for you to do.

Circles and Layers.

Every time it feel like you've gone in circles, try remembering that a circle has more than just 1 or 2 dimensions...... up-down and left-right.

This is the lesson of layering. Trading is no different to any activity when addressed in this way, instead of constantly chasing the carrot at the end of the stick.

I hope what I have written here helps.


Peter


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Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #379
  • Jul 9, 2022 11:53pm Jul 9, 2022 11:53pm
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Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #380
  • Jul 10, 2022 12:01am Jul 10, 2022 12:01am
Speculators and Traders. Speculators vs Traders ......

Big Debate between people. But mostly full of hot air.


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This is why I would say .....

"Do your OWN research and stop listening to all the talking mouths online".


Happy learning and trading


Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
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