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    At the end of this month, European Union leaders (except for British Prime Minister Theresa May) will gather in Italy to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome. Anniversary celebrations are always a good excuse for self-congratulation, and the rhetoric filling the air in the run-up to the Rome summit suggests that this one will be no different. But EU leaders should also be using the anniversary as an opportunity to reflect deeply on the project they are celebrating. The EU is at a crossroads. The United Kingdom has not even formally launched the withdrawal process, yet Brexit has already demolished one ... (full story)

  • Comment #1
  • Mar 21, 2017 2:49am Mar 21, 2017 2:49am
hope this the beginning of the last few parties....
  • Comment #2
  • Mar 21, 2017 6:07am Mar 21, 2017 6:07am
Hope this is the beginning of many years of European Unity. They don't need half-hearted members like the UK, who don't join properly then expect to be able to change stuff.
Gone to a better place
  • Comment #3
  • Mar 21, 2017 6:16am Mar 21, 2017 6:16am
Quoting smikester
Hope this is the beginning of many years of European Unity. They don't need half-hearted members like the UK, who don't join properly then expect to be able to change stuff.
you can probably say that again next year...after we know how elections in France, Germany has unfolded...

this is the year that Europeans will decide if EU is "proper"
  • Comment #4
  • Mar 21, 2017 6:43am Mar 21, 2017 6:43am
Quoting smikester
Hope this is the beginning of many years of European Unity. They don't need half-hearted members like the UK, who don't join properly then expect to be able to change stuff.
Not quite how it is though! I believed it was a democratic unity not a dictatorship. If one party doesn't believe they are getting a fair and worthwhile deal, of course they will look to change the parameters.
  • Comment #5
  • Mar 21, 2017 6:46am Mar 21, 2017 6:46am
Quoting ahyau
{quote} you can probably say that again next year...after we know how elections in France, Germany has unfolded... this is the year that Europeans will decide if EU is "proper"
This is only the start of the problems for the EU. People generally are reluctant to complain and will try to preserve the status quo for fear of change. But there is a growing movement of people dissatisfied with the EU and for very good reasons. The move towards Wilders or La Pen represents those who have the courage to take a stand but not those who are afraid of change, but their time will come as well. The cause of this dissatisfaction is not the electorate, but the EU itself. For the EU to survive it has to make fundamental change, change steeped in reality rather than glorious EU rhetoric, as it usually does. The growing dissatisfaction will not disappear with a couple of elections and a meeting in Rome. The EU bureaucrats and EU elite will be the architects of the EU collapse, not the disenfranchised electorate.
  • Comment #6
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:24am Mar 21, 2017 7:24am
Quoting IGNORED
{quote} This is only the start of the problems for the EU. People generally are reluctant to complain and will try to preserve the status quo for fear of change. But there is a growing movement of people dissatisfied with the EU and for very good reasons. The move towards Wilders or La Pen represents those who have the courage to take a stand but not those who are afraid of change, but their time will come as well. The cause of this dissatisfaction is not the electorate, but the EU itself. For the EU to survive it has to make fundamental change,...
Lets play a game here..
Lets take this post and change the focus... from the EU? to our own UK.

This is only the start of the problems for the UK. People generally are reluctant to complain and will try to preserve the status quo for fear of change. But there is a growing movement of people dissatisfied with the UK and for very good reasons. The move towards Gove/Boris or Farage represents those who have the courage to take a stand but not those who are afraid of change, but their time will come as well. The cause of this dissatisfaction is not the electorate, but the UK itself. For the UK to survive it has to make fundamental change,..
  • Comment #7
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:39am Mar 21, 2017 7:39am
Quoting cliffedwards
{quote} Lets play a game here.. Lets take this post and change the focus... from the EU? to our own UK. This is only the start of the problems for the UK. People generally are reluctant to complain and will try to preserve the status quo for fear of change. But there is a growing movement of people dissatisfied with the UK and for very good reasons. The move towards Gove/Boris or Farage represents those who have the courage to take a stand but not those who are afraid of change, but their time will come as well. The cause of this dissatisfaction...
plagiarising again? There is no stopping you
  • Comment #8
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:45am Mar 21, 2017 7:45am
Quoting cliffedwards
{quote} Lets play a game here.. Lets take this post and change the focus... from the EU? to our own UK. This is only the start of the problems for the UK. People generally are reluctant to complain and will try to preserve the status quo for fear of change. But there is a growing movement of people dissatisfied with the UK and for very good reasons. The move towards Gove/Boris or Farage represents those who have the courage to take a stand but not those who are afraid of change, but their time will come as well. The cause of this dissatisfaction...
suck it up.... UK voted to leave EU... if they are happy, we wouldn't have this conversation..

anyone who embrace EU in UK should be free to move to any other EU states...

but i can tell you, leaving EU is one of the best deal in this century...
  • Comment #9
  • Mar 21, 2017 7:51am Mar 21, 2017 7:51am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} plagiarising again? There is no stopping you
Plagiarism? Today's radical-right-wingers are just like the Communists in the last century. Exhibitionists with cheap rhetoric and - bad intentions.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting ahyau
{quote} suck it up.... UK voted to leave EU... if they are happy, we wouldn't have this conversation.. anyone who embrace EU in UK should be free to move to any other EU states... but i can tell you, leaving EU is one of the best deal in this century...
Drunkard Juncker can't persuade other European nations to remain in the EU with a positive message, so he has to threaten them to do so when he said " no-one else will want to leave the EU after they see how harshly Britain is punished" That is the mark of a leader who believes in democracy......NOT. He has no real answer to those who find fault with the EU, other than threats of punishment. Fascist or what?
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} Plagiarism? Today's radical-right-wingers are just like the Communists in the last century. Exhibitionists with cheap rhetoric and - bad intentions.
Now I know this is going to challenge you. If you could back up anything you have just said with real examples in context, I would be happy to address them
Quoting ahyau
{quote} suck it up.... UK voted to leave EU... if they are happy, we wouldn't have this conversation.. anyone who embrace EU in UK should be free to move to any other EU states... but i can tell you, leaving EU is one of the best deal in this century...
Your getting confused mate..
Posting from Singapore you are telling UK and EU citizens the "SUCK IT UP" ?

"If they were happy ..we wouldnt be having this conversation?"
The referendum voted to leave the EU. So we are leaving.
THATS NOT THE ISSUE( Doh.)
Norway is Not a member.
Switzerland is Not a member.
They both enjoy economically advantageous access to the single market despite that.
But our Good old Right Wing ideologue, government is leading our UK to a 3rd World WTO trade status with its LARGEST trading partner? that accounts for nearly 50% of all UK trade.

Insane.
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Drunkard Juncker can't persuade other European nations to remain in the EU with a positive message, so he has to threaten them to do so when he said " no-one else will want to leave the EU after they see how harshly Britain is punished"
Can you prove where he said that, or is it just (another one) of your fabrication and - plagiarism?
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Ignore him SoS..
When he runs out of rational argument he relies on troll/ad hominem (oops.. I ment "debating") tactics to divert..
love when he does that.. indicates hes on the back foot..LoL
Of course Team Watership Down" may be mobilized.. so watch out..ROFL..
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Drunkard Juncker can't persuade other European nations to remain in the EU with a positive message, so he has to threaten them to do so when he said " no-one else will want to leave the EU after they see how harshly Britain is punished" That is the mark of a leader who believes in democracy......NOT. He has no real answer to those who find fault with the EU, other than threats of punishment. Fascist or what?
The mistake is not in the details, the mistake is in not understanding what people really want and care about. No one cares about democracy by itself. Everyone wants a strong economy, good living conditions, the rule of law applied to all citizens, and a strong military. These are often connected to democracy, but the connection is not a predictable fact.
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} Can you prove where he said that, or is it just (another one) of your fabrication and - plagiarism?
really not that hard

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4330846/UK-example-stop-states-leaving-EU-boasts-Eurocrat.html
The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} Can you prove where he said that, or is it just (another one) of your fabrication and - plagiarism?
A little schooling for you here, quoting what someone has just said is not plagiarism, it is being accurate and for the avoidance of misunderstanding. The definition of plagiarism is "the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own."

As to Junkers quote - Asked by Bild am Sonntag newspaper whether he was concerned other member states will follow Britain's example in quitting, Mr Juncker said: 'No. Britain's example will make everyone realise that it's not worth leaving.'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/781608/Brexit-news-outrage-Jean-Claude-Juncker-claims-not-worth-leaving-EU

Or if you prefer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4330846/UK-example-stop-states-leaving-EU-boasts-Eurocrat.html
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} A little schooling for you here, quoting what someone has just said is not plagiarism, it is being accurate and for the avoidance of misunderstanding. The definition of plagiarism is "the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own." As to Junkers quote - Asked by Bild am Sonntag newspaper whether he was concerned other member states will follow Britain's example in quitting, Mr Juncker said: 'No. Britain's example will make everyone realise that it's not worth leaving.' http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/781608/Brexit-news-outrage-Jean-Claude-Juncker-claims-not-worth-leaving-EU...
Wow, inspiring isn't he
not...
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} A little schooling for you here, quoting what someone has just said is not plagiarism, it is being accurate and for the avoidance of misunderstanding. The definition of plagiarism is "the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own." As to Junkers quote - Asked by Bild am Sonntag newspaper whether he was concerned other member states will follow Britain's example in quitting, Mr Juncker said: 'No. Britain's example will make everyone realise that it's not worth leaving.' http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/781608/Brexit-news-outrage-Jean-Claude-Juncker-claims-not-worth-leaving-EU...
Wow, inspiring isn't he
not...
Typical EU though...
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #20
  • Edited 8:55am Mar 21, 2017 8:34am | Edited 8:55am
You claimed that Juncker said :
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} Drunkard Juncker ... said " no-one else will want to leave the EU after they see how harshly Britain is punished"
... And after you've corrected in
Quoting Devauxt
Mr Juncker said: 'No. Britain's example will make everyone realise that it's not worth leaving
My little radical Communist. Skew someone's word is a lie, plagiarism, and with it - even punishable.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting Ill-b-back
{quote} Wow, inspiring isn't he not... Typical EU though...
And you? Typical British Colonial?
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} really... hard


After all think I need some Twee... ouuups thought some Tea....
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting smikester
Hope this is the beginning of many years of European Unity. They don't need half-hearted members like the UK, who don't join properly then expect to be able to change stuff.
Hey Smikester so true. That's exactly what we are half hearted members, people sick to the back teeth with Brussels dictating what we can and can't do, so best to be out of it. Well said that man ... Bravo
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} After all think I need some Twee... ouuups thought some Tea....
That's right go and cry to TWEE. All your toys been thrown out the pram ?
Once You See, You Can't Unsee But You Will Get The Odd Poke In The Eye
"Mr Juncker said: 'No. Britain's example will make everyone realise that it's not worth leaving.'
He added: 'On the contrary, the remaining member states will fall in love with each other again and renew their vows with the European Union."

So fear will bring states closer together....

Yep, sounds like EU (again).

Inspiring?
No...

and yet only last month he was showing great concern that UK leaving will fracture the EU because of varying interests and priorities of member countries with regards to continuing UK trade relations.

sounds like the old bloke is back on the bottle trying to cope with empty threats as the negotiations are about to start...
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Stu Effex
{quote} That's right go and cry to TWEE. All your toys been thrown out the pram ?
Hey Pink, relax ...
I have what I need .... teeea....and...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhNCTH8pDs
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
Quoting cliffedwards
{quote} And you? Typical British Colonial?
oh ouch Cliff, you really got me with that one lol.

And you say Dev resorts to trolling/ad hominem tactics when he nothing better to say.

Keep it up Cliff, with every passing post lately you have been showing you true hypocritical colours

Life's a bitch when you have start posting your own material eh...
Come with me if you want to live....
Quoting Ill-b-back
So fear will bring states closer together....
hey kid! ...run away from dad's computer!
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
  • Comment #29
  • Mar 21, 2017 10:01am Mar 21, 2017 10:01am
I'd quote you directly and give a repy SOS except your posts in here are not the type that should be seen twice
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #30
  • Mar 21, 2017 10:04am Mar 21, 2017 10:04am
Quoting Ill-b-back
I'd quote you directly and give a repy SOS except your posts in here are not the type that should not be seen twice
Every village has an idiot. Likewise every forum.
  • Comment #31
  • Mar 21, 2017 10:07am Mar 21, 2017 10:07am
Quoting SickOfScam
{quote} Hey Pink, relax ... I have what I need .... teeea....and... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhNCTH8pDs
Wee?
  • Comment #32
  • Mar 21, 2017 10:07am Mar 21, 2017 10:07am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Every village has an idiot. Likewise every forum.
He's an insult to such idiots.

For the most part his posts are scarcely legible
Come with me if you want to live....
  • Comment #33
  • Mar 21, 2017 10:10am Mar 21, 2017 10:10am
Quoting Ill-b-back
So fear will bring states closer together....
These are not my words. Such nonsense can be written only by kid, so I thought that your kids play on the computer.
perhaps my English is not perfect - but I know the Jungle
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