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  • #41
  • Jun 16, 2017 3:35am Jun 16, 2017 3:35am
Good start today. Just playing around with the GVC dashboard with CCfp and BBsqueeze.
You can see my settings at the top. My CCfp indicator settings are 1440 - MA-5-12. True/False.
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  • #42
  • Jun 16, 2017 6:43am Jun 16, 2017 6:43am
Quoting PayItForward
@Forexpinbar and everyone Before we go too far here, again, just my thoughts, this should be treated like a Business, that is exactly what it is, ..... They must be able to code in MT4 and MT5 - MT4 is finishing - maybe we will need to be prepared to pay for this, .... we are basically putting our financial future in the coding, the last thing I for one wants to happen is to get close to the "Holy Basket Grail" and the developer disappears for whatever reason. ...
Hi PayItForward,

very good point, I agree 100% with you, but I would like to point out that we are already in this situation:
CCFp-Diff_[v2.0](1).ex4, the main signal provider on which all this is based, is a black box.

Despite we know theoretical principles behind it we have no source code and afaik any working release of this indicator under MT5 is yet available.
Nobody seems to care about it, but please consider that even a new Version of MetaTrader 4 could break it. So far so bad!

I think the talented coders you called to unite and support should begin to develop a open source own release of the CCFp-Diff indicator that provides the same suggestions of the FerruFX private code copy.

Best regards,
Bubincka
Porta itineris dicitur longissima esse
  • #43
  • Jun 16, 2017 8:12am Jun 16, 2017 8:12am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Hi PayItForward, very good point, I agree 100% with you, but I would like to point out that we are already in this situation: CCFp-Diff_[v2.0](1).ex4, the main signal provider on which all this is based, is a black box. Despite we know theoretical principles behind it we have no source code and afaik any working release of this indicator under MT5 is yet available. Nobody seems to care about it, but please consider that even a new Version of MetaTrader 4 could break it. So far so bad! I think the talented coders you called to unite and support...
There are many versions of this. In Google, try "CCFp mq4"
It takes money to make money.
  • #44
  • Jun 16, 2017 8:34am Jun 16, 2017 8:34am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Hi PayItForward, very good point, I agree 100% with you, but I would like to point out that we are already in this situation: CCFp-Diff_[v2.0](1).ex4, the main signal provider on which all this is based, is a black box. Despite we know theoretical principles behind it we have no source code and afaik any working release of this indicator under MT5 is yet available. Nobody seems to care about it, but please consider that even a new Version of MetaTrader 4 could break it. So far so bad! I think the talented coders you called to unite and support...
I think the best way to show grateful to ferruFX its buy his tool and I'm sure that will help to he make MT5 version. I understand people want try tools and be sure are profitable before pay it but when people start to earn money I don't see people returning that coder work
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #45
  • Jun 16, 2017 8:46am Jun 16, 2017 8:46am
Quoting Harpy
{quote} There are many versions of this. In Google, try "CCFp mq4"
No Harpy,

unfortunately there aren't any. I'm not talking about free versions of CCFp that shows lines in the indicator windows or other variants that displays currency strengths values and for which is available the .mq4 also here at Forex Factory.

I'm referring to The CCFp-Diff_V2 made by master FerruFx for which source code is not disclosed.

Best regards,
Bubincka
Porta itineris dicitur longissima esse
  • #46
  • Jun 16, 2017 8:55am Jun 16, 2017 8:55am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I think the best way to show grateful to ferruFX its buy his tool and I'm sure that will help to he make MT5 version. I understand people want try tools and be sure are profitable before pay it but when people start to earn money I don't see people returning that coder work
Hi braintheboss,

I agree with you that a brilliant mind like FerruFx that made a such a useful indicator from which we all benefit deserves a reward.

I didn't know that CCFp-Diff indicator was out for sale and I don't know where I could buy it, if you mean the source code.
Otherwise, since the principles behind it are well known, starting from the previous releases (the ones showing currency strenght as lines) for which mq4 code is available I think that good coders could write a release giving the same signals as the actual one of FerruFx.

In this way we will be assured that we can react and trade one more day independently from any changes that Metaquotes will bring us sooner or later.

Begards,
Bubincka
Porta itineris dicitur longissima esse
  • #47
  • Jun 16, 2017 9:02am Jun 16, 2017 9:02am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} No Harpy, unfortunately there aren't any. I'm not talking about free versions of CCFp that shows lines in the indicator windows or other variants that displays currency strengths values and for which is available the .mq4 also here at Forex Factory. I'm referring to The CCFp-Diff_V2 made by master FerruFx for which source code is not disclosed. Best regards, Bubincka
A master? Then I'm honored to be in the presence of his (titles, titles, titles) masterful-ness. You could also try showing a screenshot of what you're trying to achieve because the other CCFp variants probably convey the same information but maybe they look a bit different.
It takes money to make money.
  • #48
  • Jun 16, 2017 9:09am Jun 16, 2017 9:09am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Hi braintheboss, I agree with you that a brilliant mind like FerruFx that made a such a useful indicator from which we all benefit deserves a reward. I didn't know that CCFp-Diff indicator was out for sale and I don't know where I could buy it, if you mean the source code. Otherwise, since the principles behind it are well known, starting from the previous releases (the ones showing currency strenght as lines) for which mq4 code is available I think that good coders could write a release giving the same signals as...
Precisely FerruFx is a developer always take care of people ( even for his free builds). Everyone is free to make a clone but why do that hard job when for a small price you can get the original? That kind of tools needs a lot of development time. And you think when he made the tool not others were there and even have long time continues being an useful tool. This shows its a good coded tool

And even you have code normally you will need somebody to modify it and not much people can take a tool made for other and improve it. Then really the problem is always same...
Try don't lose pants never...
  • #49
  • Jun 16, 2017 9:23am Jun 16, 2017 9:23am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} I didn't know that CCFp-Diff indicator was out for sale
You are right ... It is not!
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #50
  • Jun 16, 2017 9:27am Jun 16, 2017 9:27am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Hi braintheboss, I agree with you that a brilliant mind like FerruFx that made a such a useful indicator from which we all benefit deserves a reward. I didn't know that CCFp-Diff indicator was out for sale and I don't know where I could buy it, if you mean the source code. Otherwise, since the principles behind it are well known, starting from the previous releases (the ones showing currency strenght as lines) for which mq4 code is available I think that good coders could write a release giving the same signals...
I don't know if such words of regard and esteem are going to work for getting the source code. You're going to have to pay the money to buy it because my guess is the money has more value to your master than the compliments.
It takes money to make money.
  • #51
  • Jun 16, 2017 9:32am Jun 16, 2017 9:32am
Hello
Someone has the Set file of Test 10 of Gecko?

i like this
Test 10: Virtual Basket on Test 01: Daily setup, Trade Level 2, TF, FF, FT with the Trend Direction filter ON
  • #52
  • Jun 16, 2017 10:02am Jun 16, 2017 10:02am
Quoting Harpy
{quote} I don't know if such words of regard and esteem are going to work for getting the source code. You're going to have to pay the money to buy it because my guess is the money has more value to your master than the compliments.
Please Harpy,

I'm kindly asking you not to be disrespectful to FerruFx since here we're using 100% for free one of his tools.
After clarifying this point, my worries are for the future, how far or near this future it is i don't know, since not having the source code of this indicator won't let us to react to changes that are out of our hands.
This indicator is the corner stone and the basis of all this basket trading we're trying to achieve here.

Best regards,
Bubincka
Porta itineris dicitur longissima esse
  • #53
  • Jun 16, 2017 10:06am Jun 16, 2017 10:06am
As an FYI, Geckos DB does not require the ccfp indicator...

There are always alternatives, I don't think it's worth while getting hung up about it, if it stops working there will always be something else around...
Life is like a snickers, its full of nuts!
  • #54
  • Jun 16, 2017 10:07am Jun 16, 2017 10:07am
Quoting ordosgoitia
Hello Someone has the Set file of Test 10 of Gecko? i like this Test 10: Virtual Basket on Test 01: Daily setup, Trade Level 2, TF, FF, FT with the Trend Direction filter ON
Did you head over to GIG and get it?
Life is like a snickers, its full of nuts!
  • #55
  • Jun 16, 2017 10:07am Jun 16, 2017 10:07am
Quoting bubincka
{quote} Please Harpy, I'm kindly asking you not to be disrespectful to FerruFx since here we're using 100% for free one of his tools. After clarifying this point, my worries are for the future, how far or near this future it is i don't know, since not having the source code of this indicator won't let us to react to changes that are out of our hands. This indicator is the corner stone and the basis of all this basket trading we're trying to achieve here. Best regards, Bubincka
Okay I understand your concern and I wasn't disrespecting your master. I will say this though to provide some relief of anxiety, there will be MT5 versions of the CCFp once MT5 becomes fully available. I don't know how long that will be but my guess is, at least 2 to 5 years?
It takes money to make money.
  • #56
  • Jun 16, 2017 10:43am Jun 16, 2017 10:43am
Quoting Harpy
{quote}... because my guess is the money has more value to your master than the compliments.
This tool was developped for the FF community about 10 years ago ... for free ... and it is still available here ... freely.

If you find a CCFp-Diff for sale somewhere, I am definitively not the seller.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #57
  • Jun 16, 2017 5:52pm Jun 16, 2017 5:52pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} This tool was developped for the FF community about 10 years ago ... for free ... and it is still available here ... freely. If you find a CCFp-Diff for sale somewhere, I am definitively not the seller.
And I am sure that everyone who uses your CCFp appreciates it as I do.
If it does stop working for any reason, is it your intention to upgrade the indicator?
And will you be converting it to MT5 and making it available for free or a fee for service?
Thank-you, appreciated.
When you are successful perhaps give a thought to others ... Kiva dot org
  • #58
  • Jun 16, 2017 7:00pm Jun 16, 2017 7:00pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} And I am sure that everyone who uses your CCFp appreciates it as I do. If it does stop working for any reason, is it your intention to upgrade the indicator? And will you be converting it to MT5 and making it available for free or a fee for service? Thank-you, appreciated.
I have no specific plan. For now, there's no reason for it to stop working.

But in all cases, if a new release is done here on FF, it will still be free.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #59
  • Jun 17, 2017 12:54am Jun 17, 2017 12:54am
So far...for those who have tested the GIG dashboard as well as the GVC dashboard/BBSqueeze....which one has produced better/more consistent results?

Oh and also Acit's strategy that incorporates the use of the 3 TF same color filter...
  • #60
  • Jun 17, 2017 5:17pm Jun 17, 2017 5:17pm
This may have been mentioned before, if so apologies, I am interested in establishing a rough formula for calculating the Stop Loss.
I have been testing and doing live on 1440 and 10080 and have been using a basic hard SL for the basket of 1600 Pips, which average to 32 pips (say 35 pips) per pair over all baskets.
This is enough over a basket for the basket to "breathe" and reach my TP which is 2% per basket group (up to 6 baskets).
Using that calculation an account of 1K @ 1% risk per pair would allow a Lot of 0.02 (rounded down to be conservative), given I have been using to date lot 0.01 by increasing that and staying with 2% should greatly reduce my "time of risk" in the market or alternatively double the profits.
So I can now understand why xmess7 uses 0.1 Lot size (which I did think was risky) for a $2k account because I assuming that he has calculated the average draw-down pips for his baskets.
If xmess7 or anyone who has conducted a similar calculation could confirm this or provide an alternative it would be appreciated.
Also posting this on the other tread for those that don't come here.
Thanks for response
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